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This is a show trial,
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and we're gonna show
all that in there.
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All lies, all lies.
This is a kangaroo court,
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this is political action,
it's a witch hunt.
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I'll be back later.
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It's about
the damage that was done to me.
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Jones was repeating these lies.
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I was accused of being part
of a government conspiracy.
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None of it's true.
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All I did was lose my son.
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He was brutally murdered
and shot and killed
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in his first-grade classroom.
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And I have to deal
with this abuse
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by a loudmouth with a blowhorn?
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All rise.
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459th District Court
is now in session.
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The Honorable Judge
Maya Guerra Gamble presiding.
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Alex Jones
chose to continue to seed
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and perpetrate lies
that Sandy Hook never happened.
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Making shit up.
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I mean, it's-- it's fake.
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I... The whole thing is just...
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That's how
Alex Jones runs his empire,
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and I think that that needs
to be stopped.
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This is Neil and Scarlett.
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Mr. Jones has robbed
Neil and Scarlett
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of the time they needed to heal
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over the violent death
of their son, Jesse.
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People thought of Infowars
as a fringe organization.
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But at the height of its powers,
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more people
were watching Infowars
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at any given time than CNN.
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What you have to remember
is that Mr. Jones for ten years
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intentionally lied
that the shooting was fake
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or a government-led plot.
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This is the most egregious
case of defamation
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in American history.
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Mr. Jones has been canceled.
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And I believe
in every American's right
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to choose what they listen to
and what they believe.
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It's got to be known
that Alex Jones is a liar.
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If it came to a knock-down,
drag-out fight
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in the Travis County Courthouse,
that's what it's gonna be.
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I do.
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Alex Jones will meet me
face to face.
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Hello, Austin, Texas.
I'm Alex Jones,
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and you're watching
Exposing Mass Media.
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That's what
we've got to talk about.
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I've got quite a few programs
that you'll see live
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here on Austin Community
Access Centre.
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The simple way
the world works, okay?
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We always looked up to him.
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The guy that started out,
you know, 22 years old
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in public access television.
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When I fear something,
I go after it!
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Makeup, lovey, makeup.
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Public Access in Austin
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is a bit of a cultural
phenomenon unto itself,
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and it's one of the oldest
in the country.
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You know,
there was a lot of freedom
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to the programming
that was available,
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but it was shared
all over the US.
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You're on the air.
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There was guys
that would come on there
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and talk about serious
political issues
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with a toilet bowl ring
wrapped around their neck.
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Now, there's somebody
a lot smarter than I am, see?
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I wouldn't say in all of it
being conspiratorial,
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but it was a very
free-thinking forum.
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Hail Satan.
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Righteously, mother--
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I come on public access
and hang out.
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I'm on 24 hours a day, they say.
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Yeah, very-- pretty close.
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Well, I can assure you
I don't make any money
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off public access.
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But Alex eventually stood out
as he got thicker skin.
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It hasn't stopped!
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His ability to capture
that audience, it's impressive.
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You watched
because you didn't know
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what the guy was gonna
say next. You didn't know.
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We love you,
we're the government.
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That's what scares me.
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We're smiling-faced bureaucrats.
Ooh!
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He was fucking hilarious, man.
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He would rant and rave,
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and there'd be times
when he'd blow up
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and get red faced
and started spitting.
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It was absolutely hilarious,
entertaining as hell.
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I'm sorry for you.
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The thing that really
caught my attention
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was when he was pointing out
that there was fluoride
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in the baby water.
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'Cause he's like,
"Oh, they're putting fluoride,
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the poison into the baby water.
Oh! Just for the baby."
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He'd do his entire antics.
And it caught my attention.
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I was like, "Yeah,
why are they putting fluoride
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in the baby water?"
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I don't want to see
the baby get poisoned, you know.
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It's hard to be an awake person.
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I was totally hooked.
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Look at this.
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My friend leaned
over to me, and he was like,
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"You know, if you've ever looked
at your toothpaste,
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and it says, if you swallow
more than a pea-sized amount,
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call Poison Control.
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Why do you think they put that
in the water supply?"
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"No idea, I don't know."
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And he's like,
"Well, it's mind control."
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We have been predicting
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this nightmarish development
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for years.
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Either the government
actually carried out
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this bombing themselves,
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or, ladies and gentlemen,
they allowed terrorists
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to engage in this
sinister activity.
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He started getting a following.
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And I think after 9/11,
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his-- his listenership
and audience grew.
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Look at that,
ladies and gentlemen.
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Look at it drop from demolitions
in the bottom.
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He'd gone from local broadcast
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to national broadcast.
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He became four hours a day,
six days a week.
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There was never a...
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"Hey, here's
the production meeting
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in the morning."
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It was as organic
as you could get.
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I came in, two, three hours
before everyone else,
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and started printing
news stories.
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There was one stack
that was the juice.
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Boom.
And he would just freeform.
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Here's the headline.
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"Fukushima radioactive wave
has already hit California."
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It's taken two plus years
for that to get here.
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I mean, it was like
that with him.
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He got an idea,
and he wanted you
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to go do it right then.
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It was, "You're going to drive
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all along the coast
of California and do a reading.
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And post a video, immediately."
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They're doing their various
readings at this moment.
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And from what I'm told,
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Adan, we still have
15 microrems, is that correct?
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We found, specifically,
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that there were not
high radiation levels.
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We get a call and they're like,
"Jones is furious.
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Stop posting these videos
saying that
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there aren't high levels
of radiation in California."
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Radiation levels
have more than doubled
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in the last 60 years and...
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Jones started selling
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his first privately labeled
supplement.
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Infowars Life,
which was an iodine supplement.
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Talking about Fukushima,
I realized in the last segment
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that I've only taken it
this morning,
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I take it twice a day
as recommended.
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He somehow turned
some geopolitical story
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into a need for a supplement.
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When Jones started getting
so mad at us
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for posting those videos,
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it was, "Oh, okay.
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We did come here
to sell a product."
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The government will not tell you
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that during increased
radiation levels,
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you need more iodine
to protect the thyroid.
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They will not tell you this.
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Did we think
he wanted us to lie?
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Yeah, it was obvious.
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On that Friday morning,
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I hear little footsteps
running up behind me.
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And it's little Daniel.
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We got on this couch
right behind me here, and...
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I said, "You know,
it's not even daylight yet.
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You have time if you wanna
go back to bed
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and sleep a little more."
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And he said, "No, Dad,
let's cuddle on the couch.
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We'll have time
for cuddling this way."
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And Daniel says,
"Dad, look at how you can see
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the reflection
of our Christmas tree lights
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in the window with that
beautiful sunrise behind it."
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So, I said,
"You know what? You're right,
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I'm going to go get the camera."
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I have a picture
of that sunrise that morning
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with the Christmas tree lights
reflecting in the window.
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And I really wish
I'd turned the camera round
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and taken a picture of him.
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For our church,
we were preparing for this
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big Christmas party
that we were having,
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and they were doing
this nativity scene.
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And Emilie was going to be
an angel at this nativity scene.
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She was awake and she was
sitting on the edge of her bed
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waiting for seven o'clock
to happen.
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I got a chance to just
sit next to her
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and give her a hug and tell her
how much I loved her,
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and that wasn't something
that I got to do very often
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before I went to work.
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"Come on, Jess.
We gotta get up
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and get ready to go to school."
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He got up and, um...
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was poking around,
poking along, dogging along.
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And my mind was contemplating
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whether to send him
to school that day.
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But it was class project day.
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We were each going to make
a gingerbread house.
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The only reason
I think I sent him was because
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we were supposed to make
those stupid gingerbread houses.
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I really--
I think often about that.
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And I walked him
into the school.
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He was holding my hand
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and he darted
into the classroom.
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And that was the last I saw him.
Alive, anyway.
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Forty-five minutes later,
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we started to get
the text messages.
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Unfortunately, sometimes,
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when evil walks in your door,
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and you only have
a short amount of time,
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there wasn't much
that they could do.
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His first shooting
is the eight rounds
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that he shoots
through that window
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at the front of the building.
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He then makes entrance
into the lobby.
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Upon hearing the commotion,
the school principal,
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Dawn Hochsprung, gets up
and heads to the door.
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She tells her people
to stay put,
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uh, but they don't listen
to her, right.
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Mary Sherlach, the psychologist,
is actually right on her heels.
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And they start to make their way
down the hallway
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towards the lobby,
when they're shot and killed.
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Newtown 911, what's
the location of your emergency?
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Sandy Hook school.
I think somebody's got a gun.
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I caught a glimpse of somebody.
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They're running
down the hallway.
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The first 911 call,
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I estimate that that's probably
about a minute and a half
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after the shooting
actually begins.
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We're in the classroom,
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and my children are just scared,
and we wanted to know an update.
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He continues
down the hallway,
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and I believe that
the first room that he goes into
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is classroom ten.
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And some of them
start to react and move.
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It's more difficult
than it looks like
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to actually shoot somebody,
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especially somebody
that's moving.
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There are several students
that are able to escape
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from that room.
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In each one of these classrooms
there's a small bathroom,
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and two of the students actually
take up hiding in the bathroom.
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He shoots and kills the teacher,
Victoria Soto,
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and the teacher's aide,
Anne Marie Murphy.
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Uh, Anne Marie
was still clutching the student
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that she took care of,
Dylan Hockley,
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who was also killed.
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And he also killed Jesse Lewis,
Avielle Richman,
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Allison Wyatt, and Olivia Engel.
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I then believe
that he leaves classroom ten
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and goes into classroom eight.
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And again, now by this time,
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this classroom has the ability
to have reacted,
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to gather into what they believe
would be a safe location.
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In this case, they've chosen
that very small bathroom
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that's in the far-left corner
of their classroom.
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All the kids are able
to get into that bathroom,
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but the two adults aren't
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and they're standing
just outside.
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And when he walks in there,
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he shoots and kills
the substitute teacher,
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Lauren Rousseau,
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and the behavior specialist
that was in that room,
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Rachel D'Avino.
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They both gave their lives
trying to protect those kids.
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And he also kills
Daniel Barden, Charlotte Bacon,
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Josephine Gay, Madeleine Hsu,
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Catherine Hubbard,
Chase Kowalski,
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James Mattioli,
Ana Marquez-Greene,
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Grace McDonnell, Jack Pinto,
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Noah Pozner, Caroline Previdi,
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Emilie Parker, Jessica Rekos,
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and Benjamin Wheeler.
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There's... There's one survivor
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in that group of kids
that are in the bathroom,
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and she just, miraculously,
was not struck.
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I believe in that room
he fires about 80 rounds.
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They're aimed shots
at extremely close range.
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He's squeezing
the trigger rapidly.
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Then I believe that he actually
then walks back
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to classroom ten.
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He's fired two rounds
with the 10mm,
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one goes up into the ceiling
and he puts the suicide shot
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into his head.
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From when he starts shooting
to when he commits suicide,
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the whole incident ends up
being about six minutes.
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Good morning.
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Uh, this message
is for Sandy Hook parents only.
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At this time, if you have not
already done so,
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you may go
to the Sandy Hook firehouse
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and pick up your child.
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All other Newtown schools
remain in lockdown.
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Thank you.
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Nothing can ever
happen to your child...
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so I really wasn't even
that worried, frankly.
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I walked to the firehouse first.
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And then, by that time,
Scarlett had gotten there
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and we-- we still
couldn't find Jesse.
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I walked up to somebody
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official-looking in a uniform,
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and I said, "I'm looking
for my son, Jesse Lewis."
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They said,
"If you can't find him,
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put his name down on a list."
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There was a long list,
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and never in a million years
did I think
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that all of those people
were dead.
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A police officer walked up to me
and said,
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"Did Jesse have any
identifying marks on his body?"
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And... he did.
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He had a little mole
on the top of his right foot.
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So,
I thought to myself...
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"That's not a good sign."
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And it must have been
around three o'clock,
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I remember Governor Malloy
getting up, making a speech.
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I remember speaking up, saying,
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"Are there any survivors
left in the school?
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Is anybody alive
that is missing?"
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And he didn't answer
the question,
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and I asked it a couple of times
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and he finally said--
put his head down
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and said,
"No, there's no survivors."
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I was able to see him
before we cremated him.
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And they instructed me,
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you know, um, "Don't touch him
except for his hands
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because you won't like
what you feel."
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He was, um, in the arms
of Anne Marie,
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his special education assistant.
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They said the way
that their bodies were found,
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him on his back with the knees
and her arms around him,
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that she had been trying
to protect him.
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I know from the autopsy report
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that some of, um,
the fragments from her body
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were actually lodged into his,
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because of the impact
of the bullets.
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I held his hand for hours...
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until it got warm.
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It-- it almost felt
like a live hand,
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and I looked at the fingernails,
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and the fingernails
still had dirt...
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...under them.
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He was in the funeral home.
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His face was, um,
covered with a cloth
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from his nose down.
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We were told
that he has an injury there,
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and it's better to keep
a cloth over his mouth.
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I kissed his forehead,
and it was very cold,
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and not the same sensation
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as the thousands of times
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I've kissed him
on his forehead,
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so it was... um...
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very shocking.
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...defeated the Goblin,
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and the Goblin was still...
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he was fighting back
and still alive...
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He had
just turned six, and, um...
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I would hear him.
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I would see him
out of the corner of my eye,
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but he was never really there.
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00:20:06,456 --> 00:20:09,084
And I just kind of willed myself
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to see him running in the snow
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with his jacket on,
coming towards the house...
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...and telling me
that he had gotten away...
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from the shooter.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
it is Friday.
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Thank you so much
for joining us the 14th day
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of December 2012,
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and there is a reported
school shooting in Connecticut,
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one of the states
that has draconian restrictions
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on gun ownership.
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Mr. Jones, I want
to show you some video clips
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of some things you were saying
as news broke of Sandy Hook.
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And in a video that day
that you titled
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"Connecticut School Massacre
Looks Like False Flag,
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Says Witnesses."
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Can you play the clip
"Day of Sandy Hook"?
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And I said, "They are going
to come after our guns,
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look for mass shootings,"
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and then magically it happens.
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They are coming.
They are coming.
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They are coming.
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00:21:16,943 --> 00:21:19,571
You were
the first person in the world
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to make the false flag theory
about Sandy Hook,
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and you did it before the bodies
were even cold.
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That's the truth.
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-Objection.
- No, it's not true.
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This is staged.
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And you know I've been saying
the last few months,
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get ready for big
mass shootings.
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From the very beginning,
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Sandy Hook parents
have been asking you
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to leave them alone, right?
401
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:47,640
I don't remember that
from the very beginning, no.
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00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,850
Okay.
403
00:21:58,318 --> 00:21:59,778
It's just weird as a human being
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00:21:59,778 --> 00:22:01,905
to be in a position
where you feel like
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00:22:01,905 --> 00:22:04,783
you have zero hope
for anything anymore.
406
00:22:05,867 --> 00:22:07,327
I just didn't know
how to respond,
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00:22:07,327 --> 00:22:09,120
we didn't know how to react.
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00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:11,373
Within hours,
on the first night,
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00:22:11,373 --> 00:22:13,458
I remember getting phone calls
from reporters,
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00:22:13,458 --> 00:22:15,001
and so I turned my phone off.
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00:22:16,628 --> 00:22:17,962
But I keep getting calls.
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00:22:17,962 --> 00:22:21,758
And so, I decided
that they weren't going to stop
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00:22:21,758 --> 00:22:23,802
until they found
somebody to talk to.
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00:22:23,802 --> 00:22:26,638
And so, I decided that
the best thing to do
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00:22:26,638 --> 00:22:28,640
was for me to give a statement,
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00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,310
because I figured
if I gave them something
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00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:34,187
that they could chew on
for a while,
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then they would leave us alone.
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The shooting was on Friday.
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00:22:45,198 --> 00:22:47,033
Saturday evening,
I gave the statement.
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I'd never done
something like this.
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00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:53,873
All these bright lights
are on me,
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00:22:53,873 --> 00:22:54,874
and I can't see anybody,
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00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:57,210
and I just was kind of confused
and nervous,
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00:22:57,210 --> 00:22:59,629
and just kind of gave
this laugh, like,
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00:22:59,629 --> 00:23:01,089
"I don't know what to do here."
427
00:23:05,135 --> 00:23:06,302
So, I've never done this before.
428
00:23:06,302 --> 00:23:07,512
Do you guys
just want me to start?
429
00:23:07,512 --> 00:23:09,347
-Yeah.
- Okay.
430
00:23:21,151 --> 00:23:22,485
So, my name's Robbie Parker.
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00:23:24,195 --> 00:23:29,826
My family is one of the families
that lost a child yesterday
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00:23:29,826 --> 00:23:32,412
in the Sandy Hook
Elementary School shootings
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00:23:32,412 --> 00:23:33,663
here in Connecticut.
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00:23:33,663 --> 00:23:36,374
I just wanted to share
about who my daughter was.
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00:23:36,374 --> 00:23:39,961
I had prepared something
that I wanted to share,
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00:23:39,961 --> 00:23:42,881
and so... I shared it.
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00:23:44,632 --> 00:23:48,803
Emilie was bright, creative,
and very loving.
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00:23:48,803 --> 00:23:51,014
Emilie was always willing
to try new things,
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00:23:51,931 --> 00:23:52,932
other than food.
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00:23:54,017 --> 00:23:56,186
There was no way
I could have done that.
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00:23:56,186 --> 00:23:58,772
It was really hard
for him to do that.
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00:23:58,772 --> 00:24:03,902
And he did it because of her,
because he was her father.
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00:24:05,695 --> 00:24:07,322
He wanted the world to know
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00:24:07,322 --> 00:24:09,783
that she was not
just this victim,
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00:24:09,783 --> 00:24:12,243
that she was this amazing kid.
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00:24:15,872 --> 00:24:19,084
That's when our world
turned upside down again.
447
00:24:20,293 --> 00:24:22,003
We're going to, um...
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00:24:23,421 --> 00:24:26,257
play a clip from
a CNN press conference
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with Robbie Parker.
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00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:30,428
It started...
Yeah, it started less than
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48 hours after the shooting,
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00:24:31,888 --> 00:24:35,725
and then it just grew
exponentially from there.
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00:24:37,018 --> 00:24:39,562
And then he walks up
like he's an actor,
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00:24:39,562 --> 00:24:41,690
and then breaks down on camera.
455
00:24:42,732 --> 00:24:44,943
I mean, it's like,
"Ha ha ha, yeah, ha.
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00:24:44,943 --> 00:24:48,071
Oh, I read this card? Okay."
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00:24:48,071 --> 00:24:51,741
I mean, it's like, "Whoa! Whoa!"
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00:24:51,741 --> 00:24:54,953
He does look
like a soap opera actor.
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00:24:58,832 --> 00:25:00,667
So, he's really smiling
and looks happy,
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00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:02,127
and all of a sudden, suddenly...
461
00:25:04,045 --> 00:25:05,463
It looks totally fake.
462
00:25:05,463 --> 00:25:06,756
This video is unbelievable.
463
00:25:06,756 --> 00:25:08,758
We're just gonna post
the video...
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00:25:09,634 --> 00:25:10,969
and let you decide
what you think.
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00:25:10,969 --> 00:25:14,055
He needs to-- I mean, maybe
he should explain it to us.
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00:25:14,055 --> 00:25:15,974
We need to analyze
all these videos now.
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00:25:15,974 --> 00:25:17,517
Heaven help us,
ladies and gentlemen.
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00:25:17,517 --> 00:25:18,727
Heaven help us.
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00:25:18,727 --> 00:25:20,645
I've never seen
anything like that.
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00:25:22,605 --> 00:25:25,025
It got vile very, very quickly.
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00:25:26,735 --> 00:25:30,864
Emilie's Memorial Facebook page
became inundated.
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Like, "Fuck you, motherfucker."
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And "I have your email,
I know where you live.
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00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,244
I have a gun."
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00:25:37,162 --> 00:25:38,455
We would get emails.
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00:25:38,455 --> 00:25:41,332
We would get letters
sent to our home,
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00:25:41,332 --> 00:25:42,751
threatening us.
478
00:25:43,835 --> 00:25:47,422
You know, just saying all sorts
of horrible things.
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00:25:47,422 --> 00:25:50,175
You know,
that Emilie was a whore,
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00:25:50,175 --> 00:25:52,719
that Emilie was alive.
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00:25:52,719 --> 00:25:55,847
Totally stomped on and trashed
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00:25:55,847 --> 00:25:57,349
the memory
of the six-year-old girl
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who had done nothing in her life
to deserve any of that.
484
00:26:04,356 --> 00:26:06,024
You know, I would see it
and I would just delete it,
485
00:26:06,024 --> 00:26:07,567
I would see it
and I would delete it,
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00:26:07,567 --> 00:26:09,652
because I didn't want
to expose myself to it.
487
00:26:11,363 --> 00:26:13,990
It was everywhere.
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00:26:15,283 --> 00:26:18,787
Websites set up to destroy him.
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00:26:19,371 --> 00:26:22,207
"Liar. Actor."
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00:26:22,207 --> 00:26:26,044
I remember getting on YouTube,
it wouldn't stop.
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00:26:26,044 --> 00:26:29,089
I could scroll and scroll
and just keep scrolling,
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00:26:29,089 --> 00:26:32,884
video after video after video
of him just being mocked.
493
00:26:34,302 --> 00:26:39,724
It got to the point where it was
controlling my life in a way.
494
00:26:39,724 --> 00:26:42,394
You got parents laughing,
going "Ha ha ha! Watch this!"
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00:26:42,394 --> 00:26:43,561
and then going...
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00:26:43,561 --> 00:26:45,897
Method acting, going...
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00:26:45,897 --> 00:26:48,650
"Oh, my child!"
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00:26:48,650 --> 00:26:51,027
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
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00:26:54,948 --> 00:26:56,616
I remember the funeral.
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00:26:58,493 --> 00:27:00,870
I went into a state of shock.
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00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:03,415
I was just on autopilot.
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00:27:03,415 --> 00:27:06,918
On Monday, there was a funeral
for six-year-old Noah Pozner.
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00:27:06,918 --> 00:27:09,462
I spoke with Noah's mother,
Veronique Pozner,
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00:27:09,462 --> 00:27:10,714
just a short time ago...
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00:27:10,714 --> 00:27:13,299
I know that I did an interview
506
00:27:13,299 --> 00:27:14,509
with Anderson Cooper
507
00:27:14,509 --> 00:27:17,929
because it was
the autopilot part of me
508
00:27:17,929 --> 00:27:21,349
that kind of wanted
to convey what just happened.
509
00:27:21,349 --> 00:27:23,476
I'm grieving, that's all.
510
00:27:23,476 --> 00:27:25,061
- Like we all are.
- Yeah.
511
00:27:25,061 --> 00:27:26,730
- I wish you strength...
- Thank you.
512
00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:28,356
- ...and peace in the days ahead.
- Thank you.
513
00:27:28,356 --> 00:27:31,609
- I know it's hard. Yeah.
- Thank you.
I'm going to need it. Thank you.
514
00:27:31,609 --> 00:27:33,778
Now, a lot
of the tens of millions
515
00:27:33,778 --> 00:27:35,655
of video views on YouTube
516
00:27:35,655 --> 00:27:40,118
concerning the Sandy Hook hoax
517
00:27:40,785 --> 00:27:42,537
surround CNN.
518
00:27:43,955 --> 00:27:47,792
I saw this footage
where Anderson Cooper turns.
519
00:27:47,792 --> 00:27:50,670
He's supposedly there
at Sandy Hook
520
00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:52,255
in front of the memorial,
521
00:27:52,255 --> 00:27:54,799
and his whole forehead
and nose blurs out.
522
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:57,552
I've been working
with blue screen for 17 years.
523
00:27:57,552 --> 00:27:58,887
I know what it looks like.
524
00:27:58,887 --> 00:28:01,139
It's clearly blue screen.
525
00:28:01,139 --> 00:28:04,142
Somehow, that was a proof
that we were not actually
526
00:28:04,142 --> 00:28:07,437
at that locale
and that image of the town hall
527
00:28:07,437 --> 00:28:09,689
was being
artificially projected.
528
00:28:09,689 --> 00:28:12,484
But the fact that this
whole thing could be staged,
529
00:28:12,484 --> 00:28:14,444
it's just mind-blowing.
530
00:28:14,444 --> 00:28:18,323
It was a digital motion
glitch in the video,
531
00:28:18,323 --> 00:28:21,951
and that glitch doesn't exist
in the original video.
532
00:28:21,951 --> 00:28:25,830
That only exists in the hoaxer
version of the video.
533
00:28:30,502 --> 00:28:31,711
Something though,
534
00:28:31,711 --> 00:28:34,130
is really starting
to get suspicious here.
535
00:28:34,130 --> 00:28:37,509
I mean, I'm sick of it
always being a conspiracy.
536
00:28:37,509 --> 00:28:42,555
He rehashed
my "green screen" video
537
00:28:42,555 --> 00:28:45,934
for over five years, relentlessly.
538
00:28:45,934 --> 00:28:47,602
And you've got the green screens
539
00:28:47,602 --> 00:28:50,188
with Anderson Cooper's nose
disappearing,
540
00:28:50,188 --> 00:28:53,149
you've just-- it just goes
on and on, on and on.
541
00:28:53,149 --> 00:28:56,945
Infowars were vilifying
the parents.
542
00:28:56,945 --> 00:28:59,531
Anything that they can point
their finger at
543
00:28:59,531 --> 00:29:02,033
to support their thesis.
544
00:29:02,033 --> 00:29:05,036
So, Wolfgang,
recap the basic anomalies
545
00:29:05,036 --> 00:29:07,789
and then give us what happened
in your new investigation.
546
00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:09,332
Thank you, Wolfgang,
for joining us.
547
00:29:09,332 --> 00:29:10,709
And at that point,
548
00:29:10,709 --> 00:29:13,670
Infowars had prompted up
Wolfgang Halbig
549
00:29:13,670 --> 00:29:16,965
as this former
law enforcement person
550
00:29:16,965 --> 00:29:20,385
who has experience
with school safety,
551
00:29:20,385 --> 00:29:25,682
being this ultimate credible
authority on the topic.
552
00:29:25,682 --> 00:29:27,600
I think something
would be wrong with us
553
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,893
not to question all these,
554
00:29:28,893 --> 00:29:31,896
and then you look
at the green screens
555
00:29:31,896 --> 00:29:35,734
and the-- and just the lies
and the fake videos and...
556
00:29:35,734 --> 00:29:38,403
And Halbig was denying
the tragedy.
557
00:29:40,363 --> 00:29:41,865
Saying it did not happen.
558
00:29:49,664 --> 00:29:51,499
This is Leonard Pozner,
559
00:29:51,499 --> 00:29:54,044
who's playing
the role of a parent
560
00:29:54,044 --> 00:29:56,338
who lost a child at Sandy Hook.
561
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,721
There's Robbie Parker.
Now there is Emilie.
562
00:30:04,721 --> 00:30:07,474
I think Emilie
is alive and well, doing good.
563
00:30:09,184 --> 00:30:14,439
Sandy Hook, it's an illusion.
It was not real.
564
00:30:15,565 --> 00:30:18,943
The first thing is,
why no trauma helicopters?
565
00:30:19,944 --> 00:30:23,323
Think about it,
innocent children shot,
566
00:30:23,740 --> 00:30:25,116
teachers shot.
567
00:30:25,116 --> 00:30:28,953
And no trauma helicopters
respond?
568
00:30:28,953 --> 00:30:30,872
You know,
doctors can be on board,
569
00:30:30,872 --> 00:30:33,958
lifesaving,
time of the essence.
570
00:30:33,958 --> 00:30:38,755
And then, for us to learn
that they never allowed
571
00:30:38,755 --> 00:30:42,425
any paramedics or EMTs
inside the school?
572
00:30:42,425 --> 00:30:43,885
What the hell is that?
573
00:30:43,885 --> 00:30:50,308
They were not allowed
inside that school, ever. Ever!
574
00:30:50,308 --> 00:30:52,310
- ♪ Since the prehistoric ages ♪
575
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:53,978
♪ And the days
Of ancient Greece... ♪
576
00:30:53,978 --> 00:30:55,980
Wolfgang W. Halbig.
577
00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:57,232
Then I got a phone call.
578
00:30:57,232 --> 00:30:59,150
"Alex Jones would like
to talk to you."
579
00:30:59,150 --> 00:31:01,736
I think he was trying
to get me to validate
580
00:31:01,736 --> 00:31:03,154
what his thoughts were.
581
00:31:03,154 --> 00:31:06,032
You know, he called me back
three more times, you know.
582
00:31:06,032 --> 00:31:08,868
They're taking the guns away
from people in Connecticut,
583
00:31:08,868 --> 00:31:11,329
and they're using Sandy Hook
as a nexus.
584
00:31:11,329 --> 00:31:14,332
It's so obvious
they're using it to disarm us.
585
00:31:14,332 --> 00:31:18,003
They admit it.
And it's just a total hoax.
586
00:31:18,003 --> 00:31:19,295
Oh, he hammered it.
587
00:31:19,295 --> 00:31:21,756
He was, you know.
He said, you know,
588
00:31:21,756 --> 00:31:24,009
"Fake actors, green screen."
589
00:31:24,009 --> 00:31:27,012
Oh, yeah, it was
a vicious attack, you know.
590
00:31:27,012 --> 00:31:29,347
Uh, he said
"Nobody died at Sandy Hook."
591
00:31:29,347 --> 00:31:30,932
See, I never said that.
592
00:31:30,932 --> 00:31:32,851
You're really sure, though,
nobody died,
593
00:31:32,851 --> 00:31:34,185
it was a total cut-out?
594
00:31:34,185 --> 00:31:37,022
I'm telling you, nobody died.
595
00:31:37,856 --> 00:31:39,149
For people to be saying,
596
00:31:39,149 --> 00:31:40,525
"This didn't happen.
It was a hoax,"
597
00:31:40,525 --> 00:31:42,902
and then you start seeing
all the crazy things,
598
00:31:42,902 --> 00:31:45,196
and it was just...
599
00:31:45,196 --> 00:31:47,824
What do you mean
this didn't happen?
600
00:31:47,824 --> 00:31:49,868
When I woke up,
that's when I realized
601
00:31:49,868 --> 00:31:51,369
there were no
trauma helicopters...
602
00:31:51,369 --> 00:31:52,746
You've got a bunch
of kids shot,
603
00:31:52,746 --> 00:31:55,999
you don't even ask questions.
Default helicopters launch.
604
00:31:55,999 --> 00:31:58,168
They didn't seem
to accept logic.
605
00:31:58,168 --> 00:32:00,045
'Cause if you then
answered a question,
606
00:32:00,045 --> 00:32:04,382
"Well, why this?
Why weren't people airlifted
607
00:32:04,382 --> 00:32:05,633
to emergency rooms?"
608
00:32:05,633 --> 00:32:07,052
"Well,
because they were all dead."
609
00:32:07,052 --> 00:32:11,139
Who has a 99.9 percent
kill rate?
610
00:32:11,139 --> 00:32:15,185
There isn't an FBI agent,
there isn't a Navy SEAL
611
00:32:15,185 --> 00:32:18,146
that's that good of a shot
within eight minutes.
612
00:32:18,146 --> 00:32:21,775
You don't get 99.99 kill rates.
613
00:32:21,775 --> 00:32:23,985
It's just incredibly hard to do.
614
00:32:23,985 --> 00:32:26,863
"How could, you know,
he have such a fantastic
615
00:32:26,863 --> 00:32:29,074
shooting accuracy
that everyone died?"
616
00:32:29,074 --> 00:32:33,161
I don't know, you shove 15 kids
into a three-foot bathroom,
617
00:32:33,161 --> 00:32:35,413
you're probably gonna have
really good accuracy.
618
00:32:35,413 --> 00:32:37,207
This is so well planned,
619
00:32:37,207 --> 00:32:39,084
two, two and a half years,
620
00:32:39,084 --> 00:32:42,087
millions of dollars invested.
Think about it,
621
00:32:42,087 --> 00:32:45,298
you had to get
the entire community involved.
622
00:32:46,383 --> 00:32:47,258
Really?
623
00:32:47,258 --> 00:32:52,263
So a community of 28,000 people
were in on this?
624
00:32:52,263 --> 00:32:55,266
That we were all pretending,
and all the pictures
625
00:32:55,266 --> 00:32:57,769
and the experiences
of the school beforehand,
626
00:32:58,728 --> 00:33:00,939
we fabricated this for years?
627
00:33:00,939 --> 00:33:04,317
It's just--
It's totally ridiculous.
628
00:33:04,317 --> 00:33:06,820
And yet, you know, here we are
all these years later,
629
00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:08,113
and it still persists.
630
00:33:08,113 --> 00:33:09,489
And I'm gonna tell you what,
631
00:33:09,489 --> 00:33:12,659
somebody will break,
and we're gonna break the story.
632
00:33:12,659 --> 00:33:14,160
And we need your help,
633
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,829
we gotta be able
to go to Newtown.
634
00:33:15,829 --> 00:33:17,205
Absolutely.
635
00:33:17,205 --> 00:33:20,375
We want to send reporters
up there, Wolfgang, with you.
636
00:33:21,376 --> 00:33:23,420
In the spring of 2015...
637
00:33:24,295 --> 00:33:26,214
...you sent this man to go
638
00:33:26,214 --> 00:33:28,633
badger and yell obscenities
at Sandy Hook residents,
639
00:33:28,633 --> 00:33:31,636
calling people who were involved
in Sandy Hook
640
00:33:31,636 --> 00:33:35,140
"crooked, corrupt,
piece of shit, motherfuckers"
641
00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:37,183
- You know who that is, right?
-Yes.
642
00:33:37,183 --> 00:33:39,728
-Okay,
that's Mr. Bidondi.
-Yes.
643
00:33:39,728 --> 00:33:43,314
You sent him to go
cover Wolfgang Halbig, correct?
644
00:33:44,065 --> 00:33:45,400
I don't remember that.
645
00:33:46,151 --> 00:33:48,111
Dan Bidondi for infowars.com,
646
00:33:48,111 --> 00:33:50,238
and we're at the city
of Newtown, Connecticut.
647
00:33:50,238 --> 00:33:52,449
They're having a hearing
on the Sandy Hook incident.
648
00:33:52,449 --> 00:33:55,493
And with me is Wolfgang Halbig.
How are you doing, sir?
649
00:33:55,493 --> 00:33:58,121
Oh, great. Thanks
for seeing me again.
650
00:33:58,121 --> 00:34:00,957
I run different
than normal reporters
651
00:34:00,957 --> 00:34:02,500
because what I do
is I go out there
652
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:03,585
and get the truth out.
653
00:34:03,585 --> 00:34:06,338
That's one reason why
I got my job with Infowars.
654
00:34:06,338 --> 00:34:08,673
Okay, I started
working for infowars.com.
655
00:34:08,673 --> 00:34:10,759
No, you're a hero to many of us.
God bless you.
656
00:34:10,759 --> 00:34:12,344
No, no, all of us.
657
00:34:12,344 --> 00:34:13,970
We need to have the truth.
Thank you.
658
00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:15,388
At least we could say
we stood up,
659
00:34:15,388 --> 00:34:16,848
and we did something.
You know what I mean?
660
00:34:16,848 --> 00:34:18,350
And that's the same drive
661
00:34:18,350 --> 00:34:20,643
that everybody
at infowars.com has.
662
00:34:20,643 --> 00:34:23,605
And this is Dan Bidondi
for the Infowars Nightly News.
663
00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:29,319
It's weird
when you're in Sandy Hook.
664
00:34:30,278 --> 00:34:32,697
Something is not right
in this town.
665
00:34:32,697 --> 00:34:34,366
And, really, you can feel it.
666
00:34:34,366 --> 00:34:35,992
I'm telling you
to get out of here.
667
00:34:35,992 --> 00:34:37,035
Get the fuck out.
668
00:34:37,035 --> 00:34:38,203
Hey, you touch me again...
669
00:34:38,203 --> 00:34:40,663
I wanted to meet the fire chief.
670
00:34:40,663 --> 00:34:44,626
He's a huge player
in the Sandy Hook incident.
671
00:34:44,626 --> 00:34:46,544
-
Don't touch him, Wolf.
- Get out of here!
672
00:34:46,544 --> 00:34:48,338
Chief, chief you gotta get him
out of my face.
673
00:34:48,338 --> 00:34:51,591
He's no fucking chief.
Get the fuck out of here.
674
00:34:51,591 --> 00:34:54,386
- I feel sorry for you.
-Fuck you.
675
00:34:54,386 --> 00:34:56,638
I feel sorry for you.
Go to hell.
676
00:34:58,390 --> 00:35:00,558
This is your volunteer
fire department
677
00:35:00,558 --> 00:35:04,396
here at Sandy Hook
to save the children.
678
00:35:04,896 --> 00:35:06,147
It's just ugly.
679
00:35:06,147 --> 00:35:07,399
You are the board member,
680
00:35:07,399 --> 00:35:09,234
you are the leaders
of this community,
681
00:35:09,234 --> 00:35:11,111
you are the superintendent.
682
00:35:11,111 --> 00:35:13,738
I've appeared in front
of the school board members
683
00:35:13,738 --> 00:35:18,743
and asked the question,
"Why no trauma helicopters?"
684
00:35:20,036 --> 00:35:22,372
Why no trauma helicopters?
685
00:35:23,289 --> 00:35:25,125
Why would you not
let paramedics--
686
00:35:25,125 --> 00:35:27,168
Board members,
these are your children...
687
00:35:27,168 --> 00:35:29,421
Not one of them responded.
688
00:35:29,421 --> 00:35:31,589
They're hiding something.
689
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:34,426
People in America
deserve the truth.
690
00:35:35,635 --> 00:35:38,221
Wolfgang Halbig
created a lot of hurt
691
00:35:38,221 --> 00:35:40,098
and a lot of harm for people.
692
00:35:40,098 --> 00:35:42,517
We want answers. We want truth.
693
00:35:42,517 --> 00:35:44,686
Listening
and watching what he's doing,
694
00:35:44,686 --> 00:35:47,772
I'm realizing
that he's being energized
695
00:35:47,772 --> 00:35:49,232
by Alex Jones.
696
00:35:49,232 --> 00:35:52,277
And that the two of them
fed each other's psychosis.
697
00:35:52,277 --> 00:35:54,654
Something is rotten here.
698
00:35:54,654 --> 00:35:56,197
What's your bottom line?
699
00:35:56,197 --> 00:35:58,366
What do you think's
happening here?
700
00:35:58,366 --> 00:36:01,077
Well, until
they answer those questions,
701
00:36:01,077 --> 00:36:04,289
I can tell you
children did not die.
702
00:36:04,289 --> 00:36:05,790
Teachers did not die.
703
00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:08,460
It just could not have happened.
704
00:36:10,211 --> 00:36:11,629
He was so persistent.
705
00:36:11,629 --> 00:36:13,298
There goes Mr. Frank.
706
00:36:13,298 --> 00:36:15,800
How does it feel covering up
Sandy Hook, criminal?
707
00:36:17,385 --> 00:36:20,597
Well, Monte Frank
was the attorney representing
708
00:36:20,597 --> 00:36:22,015
the town of Newtown.
709
00:36:22,015 --> 00:36:24,517
When somebody asks
for public records,
710
00:36:24,517 --> 00:36:26,853
you should honor their request.
711
00:36:26,853 --> 00:36:29,731
And they denied me
at every step.
712
00:36:29,731 --> 00:36:31,066
Good morning, Monte Frank,
713
00:36:31,066 --> 00:36:33,610
representing
the town of Newtown.
714
00:36:33,610 --> 00:36:36,738
We started getting
inundated with
715
00:36:36,738 --> 00:36:40,492
Freedom of Information requests
from Wolfgang Halbig.
716
00:36:40,492 --> 00:36:43,328
- Did I read that correctly?
-Yeah, absolutely.
717
00:36:43,328 --> 00:36:48,416
Both the tone and the type
of requests became more and more
718
00:36:48,416 --> 00:36:51,211
menacing and harassing.
719
00:36:51,211 --> 00:36:55,006
Never have met a liar
like this man here.
720
00:36:56,424 --> 00:36:57,509
Hey, Attorney Frank,
721
00:36:57,509 --> 00:36:59,386
are you satisfied
with the decision?
722
00:37:00,637 --> 00:37:02,180
Of course,
he's not going to answer.
723
00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:03,682
There goes corruption
right there.
724
00:37:03,682 --> 00:37:06,434
Guess what there, Mr. Frank,
what do you think?
725
00:37:06,434 --> 00:37:08,561
You're protecting
all of those people?
726
00:37:08,561 --> 00:37:12,941
It took every ounce
of energy that I had,
727
00:37:12,941 --> 00:37:15,026
and every bit of restraint,
728
00:37:15,026 --> 00:37:18,113
just to keep walking
and not comment.
729
00:37:18,113 --> 00:37:20,073
You guys trying
to cover up Sandy Hook?
730
00:37:20,073 --> 00:37:21,783
You know the information's
gonna come out.
731
00:37:21,783 --> 00:37:22,909
You know that, right?
732
00:37:22,909 --> 00:37:24,536
You people are going to jail.
733
00:37:24,536 --> 00:37:27,372
We became
increasingly anxious.
734
00:37:27,372 --> 00:37:29,290
It's like death
by a thousand cuts.
735
00:37:29,290 --> 00:37:31,209
It's a drip, drip, drip
736
00:37:31,209 --> 00:37:33,294
of "we're not
going to let you heal,
737
00:37:33,294 --> 00:37:36,006
we're going to keep at you
because we think our lies
738
00:37:36,006 --> 00:37:37,799
are more powerful
than your truth."
739
00:37:37,799 --> 00:37:39,759
The Sandy Hook truth
is coming out.
740
00:37:39,759 --> 00:37:40,969
You people going to jail.
741
00:37:40,969 --> 00:37:43,638
You can smile all you want.
You're going to jail for fraud.
742
00:37:43,638 --> 00:37:44,514
Plain and simple.
743
00:37:44,514 --> 00:37:46,558
It went on for many, many years.
744
00:37:46,558 --> 00:37:48,184
If you've got nothing
to hide, then speak with us.
745
00:37:48,184 --> 00:37:51,229
Take a moment to speak with us.
You're a public official.
746
00:37:51,229 --> 00:37:53,023
But make no mistake about it,
747
00:37:53,023 --> 00:37:54,399
you will be going to jail...
748
00:37:54,399 --> 00:37:57,569
I did not realize
the extent of their reach
749
00:37:57,569 --> 00:37:59,863
and the power of their reach.
750
00:37:59,863 --> 00:38:02,866
And social media was exploding.
751
00:38:02,866 --> 00:38:05,243
YouTube, Facebook, Twitter.
752
00:38:05,243 --> 00:38:07,787
And so this attack on facts
753
00:38:07,787 --> 00:38:11,750
would become part of...
I wouldn't say mainstream,
754
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:15,962
but pretty damn close to what
is mainstream America now.
755
00:38:19,758 --> 00:38:22,469
I just hope and pray
that I'm not wrong.
756
00:38:24,763 --> 00:38:27,849
If I'm that wrong,
if I'm that wrong,
757
00:38:27,849 --> 00:38:29,267
and if I've hurt people,
758
00:38:29,267 --> 00:38:31,561
probably I need to go
to a mental hospital.
759
00:38:32,604 --> 00:38:35,357
Now look at this one here,
this is unbelievable.
760
00:38:35,357 --> 00:38:37,692
Hockley. See her?
761
00:38:37,692 --> 00:38:39,486
There's no point
arguing with them.
762
00:38:39,486 --> 00:38:40,945
That I've learned the hard way.
763
00:38:40,945 --> 00:38:43,782
No matter what you do,
they're never gonna believe.
764
00:38:43,782 --> 00:38:46,117
They say, "Show us
the death certificates."
765
00:38:46,117 --> 00:38:47,327
"Oh, that's a forgery."
766
00:38:47,327 --> 00:38:49,621
"Show us the pictures."
"Oh, that's a forg--"
767
00:38:49,621 --> 00:38:51,706
"Show us proof
that your kid ever existed."
768
00:38:51,706 --> 00:38:56,086
"Oh, you just made that up."
And you can't... you can't win.
769
00:38:59,756 --> 00:39:02,884
Most people did think
that if it was just ignored,
770
00:39:02,884 --> 00:39:05,970
next time they'd look for it,
it wouldn't be there.
771
00:39:05,970 --> 00:39:07,639
And I didn't have that opinion.
772
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,433
It was obvious to me
that this was on a trajectory,
773
00:39:10,433 --> 00:39:12,352
and it was only getting worse.
774
00:39:14,646 --> 00:39:20,694
In 2014, I was ready to take on
this hoaxer phenomenon
775
00:39:20,694 --> 00:39:23,571
relating to the tragedy
of my son.
776
00:39:24,656 --> 00:39:27,409
My first phase
was to make myself available
777
00:39:27,409 --> 00:39:29,494
and communicate with them.
778
00:39:29,494 --> 00:39:31,413
And Kelley Watt
was one of the people
779
00:39:31,413 --> 00:39:32,664
that I came across.
780
00:39:32,664 --> 00:39:36,793
So we had this dialogue,
you know, we talked a lot
781
00:39:36,793 --> 00:39:38,962
for about a six-month
period of time.
782
00:39:38,962 --> 00:39:41,798
I'm as firm in my belief
that it didn't happen
783
00:39:41,798 --> 00:39:43,466
as Lenny Pozner is--
784
00:39:43,466 --> 00:39:46,136
that he's convinced that he had
a son who passed away.
785
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,308
You just--
This is just so insane.
786
00:39:52,308 --> 00:39:54,352
I just can't believe
that anybody believes it.
787
00:39:54,352 --> 00:39:56,479
I really have a hard time
788
00:39:56,479 --> 00:39:59,607
believing that people
actually believe this.
789
00:39:59,607 --> 00:40:04,237
She communicated with all
of these hoax content creators
790
00:40:04,237 --> 00:40:06,406
like Wolfgang Halbig.
791
00:40:06,406 --> 00:40:09,743
And she inserted herself
in the middle of all of this.
792
00:40:09,743 --> 00:40:11,828
When I heard that these children
had been shot,
793
00:40:11,828 --> 00:40:14,956
one of the first things I did
because of my cleaning business,
794
00:40:14,956 --> 00:40:19,419
I called the Environmental
Protection Agency of Connecticut
795
00:40:19,419 --> 00:40:21,254
and said,
"Who cleaned up the blood?"
796
00:40:21,254 --> 00:40:25,508
And it was like, "What blood?"
797
00:40:25,508 --> 00:40:29,971
I'm like, "Twenty-six people
were murdered. That blood."
798
00:40:29,971 --> 00:40:33,933
And he said, "Are you one
of these conspiracy theorists?"
799
00:40:33,933 --> 00:40:36,561
And he said, "I stepped over
those dead babies."
800
00:40:37,479 --> 00:40:39,147
To which I replied,
"No, you did not.
801
00:40:40,231 --> 00:40:41,566
No, you did not."
802
00:40:48,073 --> 00:40:50,950
This is the email
that Kelley Watt had sent.
803
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:53,370
When I'd asked her
to contact Wolfgang Halbig
804
00:40:53,370 --> 00:40:54,746
to see if he'll talk to me.
805
00:40:54,746 --> 00:40:57,165
And the response
that I got from Kelley is that
806
00:40:57,165 --> 00:41:00,001
he won't speak to me
until I exhume Noah's body.
807
00:41:01,378 --> 00:41:03,338
I watched a lot of true crime,
808
00:41:03,338 --> 00:41:05,507
and they exhume bodies
all the time.
809
00:41:05,507 --> 00:41:07,092
It's not unusual.
810
00:41:08,426 --> 00:41:09,636
That's all you can do.
811
00:41:09,636 --> 00:41:12,889
If you really want to prove
that this didn't happen,
812
00:41:12,889 --> 00:41:16,142
what else can you do
but to have the bodies exhumed?
813
00:41:17,268 --> 00:41:18,520
That's when I realized that,
814
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,646
you know, these people,
815
00:41:19,646 --> 00:41:21,940
they've got
their own party going on, and...
816
00:41:22,774 --> 00:41:25,276
and uh, and I'm not invited, so.
817
00:41:28,947 --> 00:41:31,783
After that phase
lacked any success,
818
00:41:31,783 --> 00:41:35,412
I shifted to removing content.
819
00:41:35,412 --> 00:41:37,622
Anyone that was going
after Noah,
820
00:41:37,622 --> 00:41:39,874
I was having
their content removed.
821
00:41:39,874 --> 00:41:41,042
YouTube videos.
822
00:41:42,043 --> 00:41:44,045
Anything that was
denying reality.
823
00:41:45,296 --> 00:41:49,968
The hoax content outnumbered
any factual information.
824
00:41:49,968 --> 00:41:52,929
If you did a Google search,
or a search on YouTube,
825
00:41:52,929 --> 00:41:56,182
for the Sandy Hook shooting,
five out of six results
826
00:41:56,182 --> 00:41:58,685
would have been hoax material.
827
00:41:58,685 --> 00:42:00,311
That's what people
were clicking on
828
00:42:00,311 --> 00:42:03,148
so that's all that people
are going to be exposed to.
829
00:42:05,066 --> 00:42:06,109
It was a contagion.
830
00:42:06,109 --> 00:42:10,822
It was going viral,
spreading to billions of people.
831
00:42:13,867 --> 00:42:16,244
Platforms at that point
wouldn't remove content
832
00:42:16,244 --> 00:42:17,954
based on their own policies.
833
00:42:17,954 --> 00:42:19,998
Other than copyright.
834
00:42:19,998 --> 00:42:23,585
That's very black and white
in the hosting world.
835
00:42:23,585 --> 00:42:26,921
I was persistent
in reporting material.
836
00:42:26,921 --> 00:42:29,841
Going after a particular channel
and finding anything
837
00:42:29,841 --> 00:42:32,927
that violated privacy
or copyright.
838
00:42:33,428 --> 00:42:34,637
Noah Pozner,
839
00:42:34,637 --> 00:42:36,306
one of the children
supposedly killed
840
00:42:36,306 --> 00:42:37,932
in the December 2012
841
00:42:37,932 --> 00:42:40,810
Sandy Hook school shooting
in Newtown, Connecticut.
842
00:42:40,810 --> 00:42:42,937
So if they were using
images of Noah,
843
00:42:42,937 --> 00:42:45,899
I was able to get that content
taken down
844
00:42:45,899 --> 00:42:48,401
and that would bring
channels down.
845
00:42:48,401 --> 00:42:50,528
You got green screen
with Anderson Cooper,
846
00:42:50,528 --> 00:42:52,697
and then his nose disappears.
847
00:42:52,697 --> 00:42:54,032
It's-- it's not real.
848
00:42:54,032 --> 00:42:56,868
Even that video,
you know, there were probably
849
00:42:56,868 --> 00:43:00,038
hundreds of that video,
maybe thousands of it.
850
00:43:00,038 --> 00:43:03,249
All of that had
to be taken down, one by one.
851
00:43:05,418 --> 00:43:07,045
And it was very hard to do.
852
00:43:07,045 --> 00:43:10,006
And there was real...
real warfare going on,
853
00:43:10,006 --> 00:43:12,759
and a real battle
was taking place.
854
00:43:14,928 --> 00:43:16,721
They were losing their content.
855
00:43:18,223 --> 00:43:21,142
It's like their playground,
and if you take their toys away,
856
00:43:21,142 --> 00:43:23,645
they just become enraged.
857
00:43:24,896 --> 00:43:28,149
Our entire media operation
and your First Amendment,
858
00:43:28,149 --> 00:43:31,778
my First Amendment,
is under massive attack.
859
00:43:31,778 --> 00:43:35,699
By 2015 he was accusing me
of taking away his free speech
860
00:43:35,699 --> 00:43:37,367
and crippling
his YouTube channel.
861
00:43:37,367 --> 00:43:41,913
This guy comes and says
that we violated their copyright
862
00:43:41,913 --> 00:43:46,626
to trigger the suspension
of the Alex Jones channel.
863
00:43:46,626 --> 00:43:49,087
Infowars published my name
864
00:43:49,087 --> 00:43:51,256
before his millions
of listeners.
865
00:43:53,717 --> 00:43:58,388
This is amazing.
The claimant is Lenny Pozner,
866
00:43:58,388 --> 00:44:02,142
HONRnetwork at gmail.com.
867
00:44:02,142 --> 00:44:03,977
What do you think
of us being censored?
868
00:44:03,977 --> 00:44:05,562
What's been happening to you?
869
00:44:05,562 --> 00:44:07,272
I can tell you lots about Lenny.
870
00:44:07,272 --> 00:44:10,608
Lenny, if you're listening,
your day is coming, my friend.
871
00:44:10,608 --> 00:44:14,779
It is coming.
Go after him, Alex. Crush him.
872
00:44:14,779 --> 00:44:17,782
After that came Lucy Richards.
873
00:44:17,782 --> 00:44:19,534
You're going to die,
874
00:44:19,534 --> 00:44:20,952
you motherfucking nigger.
875
00:44:20,952 --> 00:44:25,957
Kike, Jew bastard. Cunt.
You're going to die.
876
00:44:25,957 --> 00:44:28,626
She made death threats.
She became triggered
877
00:44:28,626 --> 00:44:32,964
by something she heard
on Infowars.
878
00:44:32,964 --> 00:44:37,969
She was sentenced
to six months in federal prison.
879
00:44:37,969 --> 00:44:42,265
Part of her consequence
was that she would no longer
880
00:44:42,265 --> 00:44:43,641
listen to Alex Jones.
881
00:44:43,641 --> 00:44:47,103
So that was directly ordered
by the court.
882
00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:52,233
It kept on going.
It continues.
883
00:44:53,651 --> 00:44:56,363
Donald Trump is our guest.
884
00:44:57,238 --> 00:44:58,031
He is the leading
885
00:44:58,031 --> 00:45:00,408
2016 Republican
presidential contender.
886
00:45:00,408 --> 00:45:01,701
Well, Donald Trump,
let me say this.
887
00:45:01,701 --> 00:45:04,621
My audience,
I'd say 90 percent, support you.
888
00:45:04,621 --> 00:45:06,706
Your reputation's amazing.
889
00:45:06,706 --> 00:45:08,166
I will not let you down.
890
00:45:08,166 --> 00:45:11,670
You will be very,
very impressed, I hope.
891
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:14,214
2016, you know,
we had a president
892
00:45:14,214 --> 00:45:15,965
that was denying things.
893
00:45:15,965 --> 00:45:18,593
This is a good time to be alive,
ladies and gentlemen,
894
00:45:18,593 --> 00:45:21,012
and we owe Donald Trump so much.
895
00:45:21,012 --> 00:45:26,226
That idea, that concept,
has spread, to not trust media.
896
00:45:26,226 --> 00:45:31,398
There was this escalation
in alternative ways of thinking
897
00:45:31,398 --> 00:45:37,946
so that, combined with Infowars
repeating Sandy Hook lies,
898
00:45:37,946 --> 00:45:41,866
brought everything back again.
It restarted the cycle.
899
00:45:45,745 --> 00:45:47,997
Alex Jones isn't going away.
900
00:45:47,997 --> 00:45:50,000
Over the years,
his YouTube channel
901
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,420
has racked up 1.3 billion views.
902
00:45:53,420 --> 00:45:55,839
He has millions of listeners,
903
00:45:55,839 --> 00:45:58,008
and the ear
of our current president.
904
00:45:58,008 --> 00:46:00,885
Alex Jones's
general statements and remarks
905
00:46:00,885 --> 00:46:02,887
and, you know,
disbelief of the tragedy
906
00:46:02,887 --> 00:46:05,015
were getting more
and more frequent.
907
00:46:05,557 --> 00:46:07,726
So I went on the, uh,
908
00:46:07,726 --> 00:46:09,936
Megyn's show
and I did an interview.
909
00:46:09,936 --> 00:46:14,065
I lost my son. I buried my son.
910
00:46:14,065 --> 00:46:17,736
I held my son with a bullet hole
through his head.
911
00:46:17,736 --> 00:46:22,907
Shortly thereafter,
I was accused of being a liar.
912
00:46:22,907 --> 00:46:25,076
Here's another story.
913
00:46:25,076 --> 00:46:28,872
Neil Heslin,
a father of one of the victims,
914
00:46:28,872 --> 00:46:32,000
he's claiming
that he held his son
915
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,252
and saw the bullet hole
in his head.
916
00:46:34,252 --> 00:46:35,503
That is his claim.
917
00:46:36,838 --> 00:46:39,424
Now, according
to a timeline of events
918
00:46:39,424 --> 00:46:41,760
and a coroner's testimony,
919
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,928
that is not possible.
920
00:46:45,805 --> 00:46:47,098
Megyn Kelly,
921
00:46:47,098 --> 00:46:48,933
talking to the father
of one of the victims,
922
00:46:48,933 --> 00:46:51,394
saying he went
and held his dead son
923
00:46:51,394 --> 00:46:52,812
there at the school.
924
00:46:55,231 --> 00:46:57,359
And then it cuts to the coroner,
but he's saying
925
00:46:57,359 --> 00:46:59,194
no one was allowed
to go in and see the kids.
926
00:46:59,194 --> 00:47:02,155
And we just said, "See? That's
why people ask questions."
927
00:47:02,155 --> 00:47:06,576
I held him with a bullet hole
in his head.
928
00:47:06,576 --> 00:47:08,578
You know,
who does he think he is
929
00:47:08,578 --> 00:47:11,247
to... to... you know,
question that?
930
00:47:14,250 --> 00:47:18,213
That was really the--
what broke the camel's back.
931
00:47:18,213 --> 00:47:21,841
And that's when I filed
the lawsuit against Alex Jones.
932
00:47:23,885 --> 00:47:25,637
And I figured,
"Well, he's in Texas,
933
00:47:25,637 --> 00:47:27,597
I'm gonna go to Texas with it."
934
00:47:30,850 --> 00:47:33,603
2018,
Neil Heslin called me
935
00:47:33,603 --> 00:47:35,188
and said, "Can you help me?"
936
00:47:36,147 --> 00:47:38,108
Neil lost his son, Jesse.
937
00:47:38,108 --> 00:47:39,317
And what was in Neil's case
938
00:47:39,317 --> 00:47:41,152
is that Infowars
specifically said,
939
00:47:41,152 --> 00:47:43,863
"You're lying
about having held your child.
940
00:47:43,863 --> 00:47:45,865
You didn't do that.
You're a liar."
941
00:47:47,534 --> 00:47:49,994
And then, of course,
Jesse's mom, Scarlett Lewis,
942
00:47:49,994 --> 00:47:52,247
also subject to the same
kind of harassment,
943
00:47:52,247 --> 00:47:55,000
these lies
about the death of her child.
944
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,002
So you had two causes
of action for Neil,
945
00:47:57,002 --> 00:47:58,044
which is defamation
946
00:47:58,044 --> 00:48:00,422
and intentional infliction
of emotional distress,
947
00:48:00,422 --> 00:48:02,757
and just the emotional distress
for Scarlett.
948
00:48:04,009 --> 00:48:06,177
I had to think long and hard
949
00:48:06,177 --> 00:48:08,930
over whether
I would join the lawsuit.
950
00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:13,226
There have been times
that have been very scary,
951
00:48:13,226 --> 00:48:16,354
and I've had to think,
"Wow, is this is worth it?"
952
00:48:17,689 --> 00:48:18,690
And...
953
00:48:19,983 --> 00:48:22,485
my conclusion
has always been, "Yeah.
954
00:48:23,361 --> 00:48:27,657
It's worth it to send
this message,
955
00:48:27,657 --> 00:48:29,242
the importance of truth."
956
00:48:48,011 --> 00:48:51,181
So, this is
the case against Alex Jones
957
00:48:51,181 --> 00:48:54,225
on behalf
of 15 Connecticut plaintiffs.
958
00:48:55,185 --> 00:48:57,270
The Texas cases kinda continued
959
00:48:57,270 --> 00:49:00,565
on somewhat of
a parallel track to ours.
960
00:49:00,565 --> 00:49:02,734
We're both proceeding, um,
961
00:49:02,734 --> 00:49:04,319
I think,
with the same goal in mind,
962
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:07,072
you know, which is to hold
Alex Jones accountable.
963
00:49:09,157 --> 00:49:10,492
The families that we represent
964
00:49:10,492 --> 00:49:13,286
are very much looking forward
to the trial.
965
00:49:14,496 --> 00:49:15,955
I was at a conference
966
00:49:15,955 --> 00:49:18,208
for mothers who--
967
00:49:18,208 --> 00:49:21,294
whose kids died by gun violence.
968
00:49:21,294 --> 00:49:25,423
And I, uh, was in an elevator
with this woman.
969
00:49:25,423 --> 00:49:27,759
She saw my necklace
and she said,
970
00:49:28,635 --> 00:49:29,427
"Who's this?"
971
00:49:29,427 --> 00:49:32,013
And I said,
"Oh, this is my son, Ben.
972
00:49:32,013 --> 00:49:33,682
He was killed when he was six."
973
00:49:33,682 --> 00:49:36,267
And she said,
"What do you mean?"
974
00:49:36,267 --> 00:49:38,561
And I said,
"Well, we live in Sandy Hook,
975
00:49:38,561 --> 00:49:41,147
he died in his school."
976
00:49:41,147 --> 00:49:44,150
And she said, "You're lying."
977
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:45,902
-Wow.
-"That didn't happen.
978
00:49:45,902 --> 00:49:47,946
They said it--
they said it didn't happen."
979
00:49:47,946 --> 00:49:49,280
And I was like, "What?"
980
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,449
She said, "No, no,
they said it didn't happen."
981
00:49:51,449 --> 00:49:54,619
And I was like,
"No, it-- it really happened."
982
00:49:54,619 --> 00:49:55,787
And she wasn't crazy.
983
00:49:55,787 --> 00:49:59,374
It had been years
since our kids were killed,
984
00:49:59,374 --> 00:50:00,792
and I'm walking
down the street in Seattle
985
00:50:00,792 --> 00:50:03,294
and somebody recognizes me,
and then he looked up and goes,
986
00:50:03,294 --> 00:50:04,713
"How do you fucking
sleep at night,
987
00:50:04,713 --> 00:50:05,797
you son of a bitch?"
988
00:50:05,797 --> 00:50:08,258
And I just think
the amount of content
989
00:50:08,258 --> 00:50:12,470
that that person had to watch
and digest and hold on to,
990
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:16,099
to where he could recognize me
in some random city,
991
00:50:16,099 --> 00:50:19,477
3,000 miles away from Newtown,
on some random day...
992
00:50:19,477 --> 00:50:22,731
Like, how much...
How much did he have to take in?
993
00:50:23,982 --> 00:50:25,316
Part of
what we're doing here
994
00:50:25,316 --> 00:50:29,904
is hoping that we can...
we can do our little part
995
00:50:29,904 --> 00:50:32,699
to course correct
this kind of dangerous,
996
00:50:32,699 --> 00:50:34,325
wildly out of control dynamic
997
00:50:34,325 --> 00:50:36,077
of misinformation
and disinformation
998
00:50:36,077 --> 00:50:38,788
and people who are happy
and willing to believe
999
00:50:38,788 --> 00:50:41,499
whatever it is
that they want to hear.
1000
00:50:41,499 --> 00:50:44,627
It was the only thing we found
that was left for us
1001
00:50:44,627 --> 00:50:47,505
to make it stop,
hopefully, to make it stop.
1002
00:50:48,548 --> 00:50:53,094
My little son died afraid,
and alone, terrorized,
1003
00:50:53,094 --> 00:50:54,846
watching his friends
be murdered.
1004
00:50:55,764 --> 00:50:56,765
Yeah.
1005
00:50:58,016 --> 00:50:59,267
Lots of anger.
1006
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,481
There's so much to deal with
1007
00:51:05,023 --> 00:51:06,483
after losing a child.
1008
00:51:06,483 --> 00:51:09,861
I'm strong enough now
that I'm ready to take this on.
1009
00:51:11,237 --> 00:51:13,323
So what's
the end result gonna be?
1010
00:51:15,450 --> 00:51:18,870
Um, total destruction
of Alex Jones, can I say that?
1011
00:51:20,997 --> 00:51:22,665
- I love America.
1012
00:51:22,665 --> 00:51:25,293
It's not fear that makes me
get tears in my eyes.
1013
00:51:25,293 --> 00:51:30,006
It's will and strength
boiling to defeat these tyrants,
1014
00:51:30,006 --> 00:51:32,050
and these globalists.
1015
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:35,053
But that said...
1016
00:51:35,053 --> 00:51:37,597
Just like our information
is game-changing...
1017
00:51:39,808 --> 00:51:41,559
the products that we sell,
1018
00:51:42,435 --> 00:51:45,480
all of them, are powerful.
1019
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,066
And whether
it's colloidal silver from 1995,
1020
00:51:48,066 --> 00:51:49,275
the very best out there,
1021
00:51:49,275 --> 00:51:52,404
or whether it's DNA Force,
now back in stock...
1022
00:51:52,404 --> 00:51:54,739
What we really want to do
1023
00:51:54,739 --> 00:51:58,952
is expose him to the world
1024
00:51:58,952 --> 00:52:02,831
as a con man, a fraud.
1025
00:52:04,165 --> 00:52:07,293
Alex Jones does not want
his audience to know
1026
00:52:07,293 --> 00:52:09,629
just how much
he's exploiting them every day.
1027
00:52:09,629 --> 00:52:12,132
But what happened is,
their lawyers gave us
1028
00:52:12,132 --> 00:52:15,218
all these emails,
which they hadn't reviewed,
1029
00:52:15,218 --> 00:52:18,805
and included in the emails
were attachments
1030
00:52:18,805 --> 00:52:23,226
that showed some of the data
for some of the years.
1031
00:52:23,226 --> 00:52:26,312
It just so happened,
you know, we got lucky.
1032
00:52:26,312 --> 00:52:31,901
The dates are from 2009 to 2014,
so that was great for us
1033
00:52:31,901 --> 00:52:34,112
because what we were
able to show
1034
00:52:34,112 --> 00:52:37,574
is the growth in audience
month over month
1035
00:52:37,574 --> 00:52:39,784
and year over year.
1036
00:52:39,784 --> 00:52:43,413
So, they published this story
to infowars.com,
1037
00:52:43,413 --> 00:52:46,041
September 2014, almost two years
after the shooting,
1038
00:52:46,041 --> 00:52:48,752
"FBI Says No One Killed
at Sandy Hook."
1039
00:52:48,752 --> 00:52:50,962
It's just a lie,
it's ridiculous.
1040
00:52:50,962 --> 00:52:54,299
But you put out
a story like this
1041
00:52:54,299 --> 00:52:55,633
and it gets people's attention
1042
00:52:55,633 --> 00:52:57,802
because, I think,
people just assume,
1043
00:52:57,802 --> 00:52:59,888
"Oh, my gosh, more evidence."
1044
00:52:59,888 --> 00:53:02,057
And, of course, you know,
they're running their
1045
00:53:02,057 --> 00:53:05,143
33 percent off DNA Force Plus.
1046
00:53:05,143 --> 00:53:07,562
So, they published this story
1047
00:53:07,562 --> 00:53:10,482
and then they had a spike
in unique visitors,
1048
00:53:10,482 --> 00:53:12,650
they have a spike in page views.
1049
00:53:12,650 --> 00:53:14,652
So what's happening
is all these new people
1050
00:53:14,652 --> 00:53:18,490
are coming to infowars.com
to read this bullshit story
1051
00:53:18,490 --> 00:53:21,826
about FBI saying
nobody killed at Sandy Hook,
1052
00:53:21,826 --> 00:53:22,911
and when they're there,
1053
00:53:22,911 --> 00:53:25,997
they're getting pitched
all these ads to go to the store
1054
00:53:25,997 --> 00:53:27,665
and a lot of them do.
1055
00:53:27,665 --> 00:53:31,586
The next day,
their revenue goes from 48,000
1056
00:53:31,586 --> 00:53:34,005
to 232,000,
1057
00:53:34,005 --> 00:53:36,508
from this one story alone.
1058
00:53:36,508 --> 00:53:38,802
Uh, good morning sir.
- Good morning.
1059
00:53:38,802 --> 00:53:41,638
This guy, Tim Fruge,
his business director.
1060
00:53:41,638 --> 00:53:44,808
In this deposition,
you know, I show him the spike,
1061
00:53:44,808 --> 00:53:46,309
he says,
"Yeah, there's a spike."
1062
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:48,269
I would agree
there's a spike, yes.
1063
00:53:48,269 --> 00:53:49,979
I agree with you.
1064
00:53:49,979 --> 00:53:53,858
And when you're having
your daily call with Alex Jones
1065
00:53:53,858 --> 00:53:56,319
and you see a spike
in revenue like that,
1066
00:53:56,319 --> 00:53:59,614
from 48,000 to 232,000 dollars,
1067
00:53:59,614 --> 00:54:01,700
you're telling him
about that, right?
1068
00:54:01,700 --> 00:54:02,784
Yeah, of course.
1069
00:54:03,660 --> 00:54:05,203
Of course!
1070
00:54:05,203 --> 00:54:07,872
It's just so obvious
what they're doing.
1071
00:54:07,872 --> 00:54:09,833
Jones is just getting rich.
1072
00:54:09,833 --> 00:54:12,544
He's just getting rich
off of saying these things
1073
00:54:12,544 --> 00:54:16,214
about these families
who meantime, meantime in 2014,
1074
00:54:16,214 --> 00:54:20,677
they're under a barrage
of threats and harassment
1075
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:25,098
and fear and anxiety
because of what he's doing.
1076
00:54:25,098 --> 00:54:26,141
He doesn't give a shit.
1077
00:54:26,141 --> 00:54:27,976
He's just like
getting rich off it.
1078
00:54:28,893 --> 00:54:31,229
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's...
1079
00:54:31,229 --> 00:54:32,731
Yeah, the more people
in town square,
1080
00:54:32,731 --> 00:54:35,692
the more people
go to the shops. Yes.
1081
00:54:35,692 --> 00:54:37,610
-Morning, Mr. Jones.
- Good morning.
1082
00:54:37,610 --> 00:54:39,946
His dad, David Jones,
1083
00:54:39,946 --> 00:54:42,741
kind of like said
the quiet part out loud.
1084
00:54:42,741 --> 00:54:46,286
Are you aware whether
Free Speech Systems collects
1085
00:54:46,286 --> 00:54:50,498
data concerning when
during an Alex Jones broadcast
1086
00:54:50,498 --> 00:54:52,417
it has the most sales activity?
1087
00:54:54,627 --> 00:54:58,173
Only in the sense
that if there have been days
1088
00:54:58,173 --> 00:55:02,177
where we had extraordinarily
good sales, someone will say,
1089
00:55:02,177 --> 00:55:04,387
"What was Alex saying
when that happened?"
1090
00:55:04,387 --> 00:55:07,390
And so,
we like to emulate spikes.
1091
00:55:07,390 --> 00:55:09,851
They're seeing this
and they want to replicate it.
1092
00:55:09,851 --> 00:55:12,103
Of course,
that's how you run a business.
1093
00:55:12,103 --> 00:55:13,480
That's what you would expect,
1094
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,441
except that Alex Jones
tells his audience,
1095
00:55:16,441 --> 00:55:18,234
"I don't care about money,
you know,
1096
00:55:18,234 --> 00:55:20,111
I'm just all about freedom
1097
00:55:20,111 --> 00:55:21,780
and fighting the globalists.
1098
00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:23,865
And, you know,
support us if you can
1099
00:55:23,865 --> 00:55:25,116
to keep us on the air."
1100
00:55:25,116 --> 00:55:28,661
When really what he's doing
is just feeding his audience
1101
00:55:28,661 --> 00:55:33,958
like a daily dose
of fear and rage
1102
00:55:33,958 --> 00:55:35,585
and looking at what works.
1103
00:55:37,420 --> 00:55:41,216
What else could possibly explain
the way these families
1104
00:55:41,216 --> 00:55:43,718
have been hunted and stalked
for ten years?
1105
00:55:50,475 --> 00:55:52,060
Jones was not reluctant
1106
00:55:52,060 --> 00:55:53,311
to have his deposition taken.
1107
00:55:53,311 --> 00:55:54,979
When it first started,
you could tell
1108
00:55:54,979 --> 00:55:57,691
he was feeling
like he was in his element.
1109
00:55:57,691 --> 00:55:59,859
You know, he thought,
"Oh, I'm in front of a camera.
1110
00:55:59,859 --> 00:56:02,320
I'm just going to act
like I'm on my own show."
1111
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,448
The trauma of the media
and the corporations
1112
00:56:05,448 --> 00:56:08,576
lying so much,
then everything begins--
1113
00:56:08,576 --> 00:56:10,662
You don't trust
anything anymore.
1114
00:56:10,662 --> 00:56:12,497
Kind of like a child
whose parents lie to them
1115
00:56:12,497 --> 00:56:14,374
over and over again. Well,
pretty soon they don't know
1116
00:56:14,374 --> 00:56:15,625
what reality is.
1117
00:56:15,625 --> 00:56:20,630
People lost any compass
of what's real.
1118
00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:23,341
And I've, you know, I myself
have, you know, almost had
1119
00:56:23,341 --> 00:56:24,843
like a form of psychosis
back in the past
1120
00:56:24,843 --> 00:56:27,470
where I basically thought
everything was staged,
1121
00:56:27,470 --> 00:56:29,055
even though I'm now learning
a lot of times
1122
00:56:29,055 --> 00:56:30,015
things aren't staged.
1123
00:56:30,015 --> 00:56:32,058
You know, it's painful
that we have to question
1124
00:56:32,058 --> 00:56:34,269
big public events.
I think that's an essential part
1125
00:56:34,269 --> 00:56:36,104
of the First Amendment
in America...
1126
00:56:36,104 --> 00:56:37,480
In this country,
1127
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,733
First Amendment guarantees
that Congress shall pass no law
1128
00:56:39,733 --> 00:56:41,484
abridging the freedom
of the speech.
1129
00:56:41,484 --> 00:56:43,862
Telling lies, false information
1130
00:56:43,862 --> 00:56:46,448
is not protected
by the First Amendment.
1131
00:56:46,448 --> 00:56:48,700
And then photos of kids
that are still alive
1132
00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:49,743
they said died.
1133
00:56:49,743 --> 00:56:51,536
I mean, they think we're so dumb
1134
00:56:51,536 --> 00:56:55,498
that it's-- it's really
hidden in plain view.
1135
00:56:55,498 --> 00:56:57,542
Mr. Jones, you can
admit that that statement
1136
00:56:57,542 --> 00:56:59,461
was absolute nonsense.
1137
00:56:59,461 --> 00:57:01,546
There are not photos of children
1138
00:57:01,546 --> 00:57:03,381
who died
who are actually still alive.
1139
00:57:03,381 --> 00:57:05,425
- That's not--
- That is an out-of-context clip.
1140
00:57:05,425 --> 00:57:07,719
I can't even respond
to something like that.
1141
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,555
You've made money
from every single one
1142
00:57:10,555 --> 00:57:12,557
of these broadcasts
we saw today, right?
1143
00:57:14,976 --> 00:57:17,854
No, we actually lose money
on really controversial stuff.
1144
00:57:17,854 --> 00:57:19,564
We can actually see it.
1145
00:57:19,564 --> 00:57:22,067
And you have
supplements you sell too
1146
00:57:22,067 --> 00:57:23,443
with these videos, correct?
1147
00:57:24,694 --> 00:57:27,906
It's--
The two don't go together.
1148
00:57:27,906 --> 00:57:30,075
You can never trust
anything this guy says.
1149
00:57:30,075 --> 00:57:31,534
He's a calculated liar.
1150
00:57:31,534 --> 00:57:35,580
As the deposition drug on,
he enjoyed it less.
1151
00:57:35,580 --> 00:57:37,874
We are back
on the record at 12:58 p.m.
1152
00:57:37,874 --> 00:57:39,626
Mr. Jones,
before we went on a break,
1153
00:57:39,626 --> 00:57:42,087
we were talking about the issue
of whether there were EMTs
1154
00:57:42,087 --> 00:57:43,380
allowed into the building.
1155
00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:45,215
We talk a lot about
the tragedy at Sandy Hook
1156
00:57:45,215 --> 00:57:48,259
and sometimes we shield
ourselves from the details.
1157
00:57:48,259 --> 00:57:51,179
In that second classroom,
1158
00:57:51,179 --> 00:57:56,267
there was over a dozen children
piled into a rear bathroom.
1159
00:57:56,267 --> 00:57:57,894
I have put in front of you
the statement
1160
00:57:57,894 --> 00:57:59,938
of Lieutenant Vanghele.
I'm going to read that
1161
00:57:59,938 --> 00:58:02,816
and you're going to
follow along with me. Okay?
1162
00:58:02,816 --> 00:58:06,319
"I then walked into a room
with Sergeant Cario.
1163
00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:07,946
To the left of the room
as you walk in,
1164
00:58:07,946 --> 00:58:09,698
there was a bathroom
in the corner.
1165
00:58:09,698 --> 00:58:12,742
There was a massive pileup
of bodies in this room.
1166
00:58:12,742 --> 00:58:14,994
At this time, I did not know
it was a bathroom,
1167
00:58:14,994 --> 00:58:17,747
and I wondered how the suspect
had the time to kill
1168
00:58:17,747 --> 00:58:20,333
that many people and stack them
in the corner of the room.
1169
00:58:20,333 --> 00:58:22,252
And many of the bodies
had injuries
1170
00:58:22,252 --> 00:58:23,712
that were obviously fatal.
1171
00:58:23,712 --> 00:58:25,797
The children that were sitting
on the floor of the bathroom
1172
00:58:25,797 --> 00:58:27,632
were packed in like sardines."
1173
00:58:29,718 --> 00:58:31,553
Let's look at exhibit three.
1174
00:58:32,554 --> 00:58:34,264
Do you see at the very bottom
of the page,
1175
00:58:34,264 --> 00:58:35,473
the very bottom left corner,
1176
00:58:35,473 --> 00:58:36,891
it says
Sergeant William F. Cario?
1177
00:58:36,891 --> 00:58:38,101
- Yes.
-Okay.
1178
00:58:38,101 --> 00:58:40,520
I'm going to read
the highlighted part to you.
1179
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,273
"Paramedic Matt Cassavechia
approached me.
1180
00:58:43,273 --> 00:58:45,108
I have known Cassavechia
for many years
1181
00:58:45,108 --> 00:58:48,278
and recognized him as the head
of EMS for Danbury Hospital.
1182
00:58:48,278 --> 00:58:49,487
Cassavechia said,
1183
00:58:49,487 --> 00:58:51,489
'You know I've got
to get into that building.'
1184
00:58:51,489 --> 00:58:53,867
I realized at some point
those victims presumed dead
1185
00:58:53,867 --> 00:58:55,952
would have to be officially
pronounced dead.
1186
00:58:55,952 --> 00:58:58,872
As we walked to the school,
I told Cassavechia,
1187
00:58:58,872 --> 00:59:00,957
'This will be the worst day
of your life.'"
1188
00:59:02,083 --> 00:59:04,377
After that, his demeanor
totally changed
1189
00:59:04,377 --> 00:59:07,172
and his attitude for the rest
of the deposition changed.
1190
00:59:10,967 --> 00:59:13,887
One of the major successes
that I think we've had
1191
00:59:13,887 --> 00:59:16,765
is forcing Jones
to admit under oath,
1192
00:59:16,765 --> 00:59:19,517
that he was not right,
that Sandy Hook happened.
1193
00:59:19,517 --> 00:59:22,103
We finally have that on record.
1194
00:59:22,103 --> 00:59:26,524
Recently, your lawyer said,
"There is no dispute
1195
00:59:26,524 --> 00:59:28,860
that the Sandy Hook tragedy
was real."
1196
00:59:28,860 --> 00:59:32,030
You stand by that, that's what
you admit is true now?
1197
00:59:32,864 --> 00:59:33,865
Yes.
1198
00:59:36,034 --> 00:59:38,912
I wanna ask you,
now looking back on this,
1199
00:59:38,912 --> 00:59:40,622
are you sorry?
1200
00:59:40,622 --> 00:59:42,874
You know, I did all this
from a good place in my heart,
1201
00:59:42,874 --> 00:59:45,377
and I'm really sad
the establishment has lied
1202
00:59:45,377 --> 00:59:47,420
so much and done so much
1203
00:59:47,420 --> 00:59:50,215
that the public doesn't believe
what they're told anymore.
1204
00:59:50,215 --> 00:59:52,300
There's been a real loss
of confidence in the system.
1205
00:59:53,218 --> 00:59:54,636
And I'm a good person.
1206
00:59:54,636 --> 00:59:56,554
So in some ways
you're a victim?
1207
00:59:56,554 --> 00:59:57,722
Well, let's just say
time's running out
1208
00:59:57,722 --> 00:59:58,973
for the establishment.
1209
01:00:03,728 --> 01:00:06,481
This is bizarre.
This is unbelievable.
1210
01:00:06,481 --> 01:00:08,400
A judge just says,
1211
01:00:09,442 --> 01:00:11,277
"You're defaulted,
you're guilty.
1212
01:00:11,277 --> 01:00:12,862
You owe these people money."
1213
01:00:28,878 --> 01:00:30,630
For the past three years,
1214
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:33,466
Infowars has repeatedly
disobeyed
1215
01:00:33,466 --> 01:00:34,843
the court's instructions.
1216
01:00:34,843 --> 01:00:37,429
Has broken virtually every rule
1217
01:00:37,429 --> 01:00:38,847
that could be put
in front of them.
1218
01:00:38,847 --> 01:00:41,349
The judge had enough,
said it's over.
1219
01:00:44,561 --> 01:00:47,397
What that means is he's lost.
It's over.
1220
01:00:48,815 --> 01:00:51,651
Because a default judgment
has been granted against Jones,
1221
01:00:51,651 --> 01:00:53,028
and that's a big event.
1222
01:00:53,028 --> 01:00:55,405
All that's left to do
is to determine
1223
01:00:55,405 --> 01:00:57,032
how much he has to pay
these parents
1224
01:00:57,032 --> 01:00:59,868
for the unlawful acts he did.
That's it.
1225
01:01:03,705 --> 01:01:05,790
This jury will be instructed,
1226
01:01:05,790 --> 01:01:07,834
at the very beginning
of this trial,
1227
01:01:07,834 --> 01:01:10,545
that they are to find
that the defendant
1228
01:01:10,545 --> 01:01:12,130
has committed these acts.
1229
01:01:12,130 --> 01:01:13,590
All right, Mr. Jones,
you know about,
1230
01:01:13,590 --> 01:01:17,052
uh, back in September a default
got granted against you, right?
1231
01:01:17,052 --> 01:01:18,720
I know I didn't get
a jury trial.
1232
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:19,971
I know a judge said
I was guilty.
1233
01:01:19,971 --> 01:01:21,723
I don't believe that I live
in the Soviet Union.
1234
01:01:21,723 --> 01:01:24,434
Now that
you got beat in court,
1235
01:01:24,434 --> 01:01:25,852
now that a default's
been granted--
1236
01:01:25,852 --> 01:01:27,228
No, I didn't get beat in court.
1237
01:01:27,228 --> 01:01:29,981
I got beat
by an organized crime syndicate.
1238
01:01:29,981 --> 01:01:31,858
What Jones decided
to do in this case
1239
01:01:31,858 --> 01:01:33,902
was not participate
in discovery.
1240
01:01:33,902 --> 01:01:38,114
And he never gave us anything
other than just pure BS.
1241
01:01:38,948 --> 01:01:40,992
Yet he turns around then
and says,
1242
01:01:40,992 --> 01:01:43,578
"Oh, I gave
so much information."
1243
01:01:43,578 --> 01:01:46,289
If-- if-- if you give me
80 pounds of shit,
1244
01:01:46,289 --> 01:01:47,874
it's still 80 pounds of shit.
1245
01:01:47,874 --> 01:01:51,711
This is a show trial.
Eighty-one thousand pages,
1246
01:01:51,711 --> 01:01:54,214
two depositions with myself
and my whole crew,
1247
01:01:54,214 --> 01:01:56,716
because we don't have
what you claim we have.
1248
01:01:56,716 --> 01:01:58,301
He looked at it and said,
1249
01:01:58,301 --> 01:01:59,928
"If I give you
all the information
that I'm supposed to give you,
1250
01:01:59,928 --> 01:02:01,054
there's no way
I'm ever gonna win.
1251
01:02:01,054 --> 01:02:02,472
So why the hell
am I gonna give it to you?"
1252
01:02:02,472 --> 01:02:05,850
So, if you don't give it to us,
there's remedies for that.
1253
01:02:05,850 --> 01:02:08,019
And that remedy
is, again, the default.
1254
01:02:08,019 --> 01:02:11,231
It's a kangaroo trial
because it is.
1255
01:02:12,399 --> 01:02:14,442
You didn't even
answer discovery.
1256
01:02:14,442 --> 01:02:15,985
When you tell your show
1257
01:02:15,985 --> 01:02:17,946
that this is all
just a kangaroo court
1258
01:02:17,946 --> 01:02:20,740
and you completely complied
but got railroaded,
1259
01:02:20,740 --> 01:02:21,908
that's not true.
1260
01:02:21,908 --> 01:02:23,368
- None of that's true.
- No, it is true.
1261
01:02:23,368 --> 01:02:25,870
I mean, I remember giving
you guys all sorts of stuff.
1262
01:02:25,870 --> 01:02:27,330
Then you would say
you hadn't been given it.
1263
01:02:27,330 --> 01:02:30,834
I don't say this as a victim,
but this is traumatic for me,
1264
01:02:30,834 --> 01:02:33,044
and I'm s-- and I'm tired
of hearing about it.
1265
01:02:33,044 --> 01:02:36,214
And now, I have, like,
a mental wall on Sandy Hook
1266
01:02:36,214 --> 01:02:37,173
that just goes up,
1267
01:02:37,173 --> 01:02:39,384
because I can't deal
with the stress of it.
1268
01:02:39,384 --> 01:02:42,887
And so, I just put
a mental wall up and I-- I--
1269
01:02:42,887 --> 01:02:44,222
You ask me these questions,
1270
01:02:44,222 --> 01:02:46,766
and it's like... I just
can't deal with it anymore.
1271
01:03:07,746 --> 01:03:10,707
I'm gonna tell you again.
You're having
all of your rights robbed.
1272
01:03:10,707 --> 01:03:12,083
We're not allowed
to tell the jury
1273
01:03:12,083 --> 01:03:13,585
that Infowars is bankrupt.
1274
01:03:13,585 --> 01:03:16,087
This is a kangaroo court.
This is a political action.
1275
01:03:16,087 --> 01:03:17,464
It's a witch hunt.
I'll be back later.
1276
01:03:17,464 --> 01:03:18,882
We got business here.
1277
01:03:23,261 --> 01:03:25,263
We just heard
from Alex Jones.
1278
01:03:25,263 --> 01:03:29,184
He believes the trial is a sham,
a show trial.
1279
01:03:29,184 --> 01:03:31,770
He's saying that because
he's already been found liable
1280
01:03:31,770 --> 01:03:34,105
by default by this judge.
1281
01:03:45,992 --> 01:03:47,369
All rise.
1282
01:03:48,453 --> 01:03:50,914
459th District Court
is now in session.
1283
01:03:50,914 --> 01:03:53,249
The Honorable Judge
Maya Guerra Gamble presiding.
1284
01:03:53,708 --> 01:03:54,959
Good morning.
1285
01:03:56,294 --> 01:03:57,921
You may be seated.
1286
01:03:57,921 --> 01:04:00,006
This is Neil Heslin
and Scarlett Lewis
1287
01:04:00,006 --> 01:04:01,800
versus Alex E. Jones
1288
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,303
and Free Speech Systems LLC.
1289
01:04:05,303 --> 01:04:07,597
You are not here
to determine if Mr. Jones
1290
01:04:07,597 --> 01:04:10,475
and Free Speech Systems LLC
defamed
1291
01:04:10,475 --> 01:04:13,561
or intentionally inflicted
emotional distress
1292
01:04:13,561 --> 01:04:15,980
on Mr. Heslin or Ms. Lewis.
1293
01:04:15,980 --> 01:04:17,941
The court has already found
1294
01:04:17,941 --> 01:04:20,652
that they have committed
these acts.
1295
01:04:20,652 --> 01:04:24,197
The jury's job will be
to determine what sum of money,
1296
01:04:24,197 --> 01:04:27,575
if any, would fairly
and reasonably compensate
1297
01:04:27,575 --> 01:04:29,494
Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis
1298
01:04:29,494 --> 01:04:32,914
for the damages they incurred
that were proximately caused
1299
01:04:32,914 --> 01:04:36,668
by Mr. Jones
and Free Speech Systems LLC.
1300
01:04:37,752 --> 01:04:40,171
Mr. Bankston,
whenever you are ready.
1301
01:04:42,882 --> 01:04:45,176
Ladies and gentlemen,
my name's Mark Bankston,
1302
01:04:45,176 --> 01:04:48,221
and I'm here to talk to you
about two rules.
1303
01:04:48,221 --> 01:04:51,391
First, you can't recklessly
tell lies
1304
01:04:51,391 --> 01:04:54,227
about something important
to someone.
1305
01:04:54,227 --> 01:04:57,188
In this case,
like the death of their child.
1306
01:04:58,273 --> 01:05:02,027
If you do that, you know
you're going to cause them harm,
1307
01:05:02,027 --> 01:05:03,528
you're responsible for that.
1308
01:05:04,529 --> 01:05:08,742
Mr. Jones continually
was churning this idea
1309
01:05:08,742 --> 01:05:10,493
that Sandy Hook was fake.
1310
01:05:12,537 --> 01:05:15,540
You need to understand
that he intentionally lied
1311
01:05:16,166 --> 01:05:18,293
to sell supplements.
1312
01:05:18,293 --> 01:05:24,090
Mr. Jones used Jesse's death
to sell his products.
1313
01:05:25,884 --> 01:05:28,428
Mr. Jones told the world
1314
01:05:28,428 --> 01:05:32,140
that Neil was lying
about holding Jesse's body.
1315
01:05:33,433 --> 01:05:39,105
Because Mr. Jones will do
or say anything
1316
01:05:39,105 --> 01:05:42,484
to protect his ability
to profit off his lies.
1317
01:05:43,234 --> 01:05:45,820
And over the last decade,
1318
01:05:45,820 --> 01:05:49,657
Mr. Jones has become
incredibly influential
1319
01:05:50,575 --> 01:05:52,744
over a segment of this country.
1320
01:05:52,744 --> 01:05:57,248
What I want you to remember
about this is this number.
1321
01:05:59,084 --> 01:06:01,044
Twenty-four percent
1322
01:06:01,044 --> 01:06:03,963
is the percent
of people in this country
1323
01:06:03,963 --> 01:06:06,591
who believe that Sandy Hook
was either definitely
1324
01:06:06,591 --> 01:06:07,550
or possibly staged,
1325
01:06:07,550 --> 01:06:12,138
and group of people
is 75 million people.
1326
01:06:12,138 --> 01:06:14,099
You can put an end to these lies
1327
01:06:14,641 --> 01:06:16,184
by punishing Alex Jones.
1328
01:06:18,603 --> 01:06:20,188
-Thank you very much.
1329
01:06:21,940 --> 01:06:24,234
All right, thank you,
Mr. Bankston.
1330
01:06:25,777 --> 01:06:27,153
It was surreal.
1331
01:06:28,279 --> 01:06:32,117
That 24 percent
just was so powerful,
1332
01:06:32,117 --> 01:06:33,451
especially to me.
1333
01:06:33,451 --> 01:06:37,163
I mean, I had known that,
but I didn't want to say it
1334
01:06:37,163 --> 01:06:39,958
because I didn't really want
to acknowledge
1335
01:06:39,958 --> 01:06:44,212
that a quarter of Americans
don't believe the facts.
1336
01:06:45,630 --> 01:06:49,426
Infowars believes
in people's right
1337
01:06:49,968 --> 01:06:52,012
to question information.
1338
01:06:52,012 --> 01:06:54,639
Alex Jones doesn't trust
the government.
1339
01:06:55,807 --> 01:06:59,811
Millions of Americans
don't trust the government.
1340
01:06:59,811 --> 01:07:02,814
There's nothing
sort of more appealing
1341
01:07:02,814 --> 01:07:05,483
than when I see, uh,
you know,
1342
01:07:05,483 --> 01:07:08,319
a person alone
surrounded by a lynch mob.
1343
01:07:10,822 --> 01:07:14,659
Despite his hyperbole,
1344
01:07:14,659 --> 01:07:17,954
he has helped millions of people
1345
01:07:17,954 --> 01:07:20,498
realize for the first time
1346
01:07:20,498 --> 01:07:24,044
the depredations
that are affected upon them
1347
01:07:24,044 --> 01:07:27,464
by the elites.
1348
01:07:27,464 --> 01:07:29,841
And I think for that
he is an American hero.
1349
01:07:32,010 --> 01:07:35,096
He is one
of the most polarizing figures
1350
01:07:35,513 --> 01:07:37,390
in this nation.
1351
01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:40,810
They want to tell you
this is the Great Satan.
1352
01:07:40,810 --> 01:07:43,104
You will be able to decide.
1353
01:07:45,982 --> 01:07:47,776
The plaintiff's attorneys
1354
01:07:47,776 --> 01:07:50,528
took Mr. Heslin and Ms. Lewis
1355
01:07:50,528 --> 01:07:54,240
and they convinced them
that Alex Jones was responsible
1356
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,035
for all the pain
that they have in their lives.
1357
01:07:57,035 --> 01:07:59,204
And then they grabbed Alex Jones
1358
01:07:59,204 --> 01:08:01,414
and they threw us both
into a pit
1359
01:08:01,414 --> 01:08:03,792
so that we could
fight against each other on...
1360
01:08:03,792 --> 01:08:05,335
on national television.
1361
01:08:08,755 --> 01:08:10,799
Mr. Shroyer,
raise your right hand
1362
01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:12,217
to be sworn in, please.
1363
01:08:13,468 --> 01:08:16,513
Neil said,
"I held my son in my arms.
1364
01:08:17,597 --> 01:08:20,183
I saw the bullet wound
through his forehead."
1365
01:08:21,434 --> 01:08:23,061
The person who got
on the Internet,
1366
01:08:23,061 --> 01:08:24,479
on Jones's web show,
1367
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,398
and said that Neil Heslin
was a liar,
1368
01:08:26,398 --> 01:08:29,234
that's Infowars reporter
Owen Shroyer.
1369
01:08:29,234 --> 01:08:33,071
You did a show
on June 25th, 2017,
1370
01:08:33,071 --> 01:08:35,907
where you were the sole host.
You remember that?
1371
01:08:35,907 --> 01:08:37,409
- Yes.
-Okay.
1372
01:08:37,409 --> 01:08:40,537
You were handed the story
while you were on air live
1373
01:08:40,537 --> 01:08:42,789
- and you ran with it, right?
- Yes.
1374
01:08:42,789 --> 01:08:45,625
You had no problem
putting that on the air, right?
1375
01:08:47,043 --> 01:08:48,086
Yes.
1376
01:08:48,086 --> 01:08:51,631
The message is,
"Neil Heslin never held Jesse."
1377
01:08:51,631 --> 01:08:52,841
- Right?
- No.
1378
01:08:52,841 --> 01:08:56,094
He's claiming
that he held his son
1379
01:08:56,094 --> 01:08:58,596
and saw the bullet hole
in his head.
1380
01:08:58,596 --> 01:08:59,597
That is his claim.
1381
01:08:59,597 --> 01:09:02,434
Now, according
to a timeline of events
1382
01:09:02,434 --> 01:09:07,397
and a coroner's testimony,
that is not possible.
1383
01:09:08,231 --> 01:09:11,276
Okay, so making a pretty
extreme claim
1384
01:09:11,276 --> 01:09:13,361
that would be a very thing
vivid in your memory,
1385
01:09:13,361 --> 01:09:15,238
holding his dead child.
1386
01:09:16,948 --> 01:09:19,743
When you, three times,
say, "He's claiming it,"
1387
01:09:19,743 --> 01:09:23,955
and then show evidence
that you say refutes it,
1388
01:09:23,955 --> 01:09:25,290
you're saying
you're not doubting it?
1389
01:09:25,290 --> 01:09:27,625
I didn't show evidence
that refuted his claim.
1390
01:09:27,625 --> 01:09:30,128
I showed evidence
that was presented to me
1391
01:09:30,128 --> 01:09:32,130
that says this doesn't add up.
1392
01:09:32,130 --> 01:09:35,091
But I never called
Mr. Heslin a liar.
1393
01:09:35,091 --> 01:09:38,428
I never said
Sandy Hook didn't happen.
1394
01:09:38,428 --> 01:09:40,889
In the process
of putting that story out
1395
01:09:40,889 --> 01:09:45,977
to a worldwide broadcast,
you hurt real people.
1396
01:09:45,977 --> 01:09:47,604
You understand that now, right?
1397
01:09:53,318 --> 01:09:56,613
I mean--
You still don't care, do you?
1398
01:09:56,613 --> 01:09:57,989
I do care.
1399
01:09:57,989 --> 01:10:00,325
- Will there be a clarification
1400
01:10:00,325 --> 01:10:02,827
from Heslin or Megyn Kelly?
1401
01:10:03,745 --> 01:10:05,997
I wouldn't hold your breath.
1402
01:10:05,997 --> 01:10:08,750
So now they're fueling
the conspiracy theory claims.
1403
01:10:08,750 --> 01:10:11,044
Unbelievable.
We'll be right back with more.
1404
01:10:13,046 --> 01:10:16,049
Why in the world
would Neil Heslin
1405
01:10:16,049 --> 01:10:18,510
- owe you an explanation?
- He doesn't.
1406
01:10:20,845 --> 01:10:22,889
Do you think Scarlett and Neil
deserve better
1407
01:10:22,889 --> 01:10:24,349
than what you did
that day?
1408
01:10:24,891 --> 01:10:25,892
Yes.
1409
01:10:29,521 --> 01:10:32,649
So right after
you called Neil Heslin a liar,
1410
01:10:32,649 --> 01:10:34,901
they ran a commercial
for a product
1411
01:10:34,901 --> 01:10:38,947
that they sell on their website
called Z-Shield, right?
1412
01:10:38,947 --> 01:10:42,200
Well, yes, when we go
to a break, we run commercials.
1413
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,120
Right. Because Infowars
1414
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,205
is actually an infomercial,
1415
01:10:47,205 --> 01:10:48,665
- right?
- No.
1416
01:10:55,964 --> 01:10:58,258
Thank you for joining us
on this live Tuesday
1417
01:10:58,258 --> 01:10:59,718
worldwide transmission.
1418
01:11:01,678 --> 01:11:03,972
I'm hosting this hour,
and then I'm gonna get in a car
1419
01:11:03,972 --> 01:11:08,268
and drive down to testify
today in the show trial.
1420
01:11:09,394 --> 01:11:10,729
It's demonic.
1421
01:11:10,729 --> 01:11:12,480
They all act
demonically possessed.
1422
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:14,524
The judge, the lawyers.
1423
01:11:15,608 --> 01:11:18,194
It's surreal to be around them.
1424
01:11:18,194 --> 01:11:19,863
Mr. Neil Heslin
to the stand.
1425
01:11:19,863 --> 01:11:22,115
All right, Mr. Heslin, you'll
come in front of me, please,
1426
01:11:22,115 --> 01:11:23,199
so I can swear you in.
1427
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:24,826
The judge is primping,
1428
01:11:24,826 --> 01:11:27,871
and they've got an HBO camera
with her all mic-ed up in there.
1429
01:11:27,871 --> 01:11:28,747
"Oh! Oh"
1430
01:11:28,747 --> 01:11:30,415
They've got dozens
of cameras in there.
1431
01:11:30,415 --> 01:11:34,210
Then they go, "This man tortured
these innocent people
1432
01:11:34,210 --> 01:11:35,712
for ten years."
1433
01:11:38,381 --> 01:11:39,632
Mr. Heslin...
1434
01:11:40,967 --> 01:11:43,803
Mr. Jones's attorney said
that he would be here today.
1435
01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:46,556
How does it make you feel,
1436
01:11:46,556 --> 01:11:49,517
sitting in this courtroom
right now,
1437
01:11:49,517 --> 01:11:52,771
that Mr. Jones is not
sitting here facing you?
1438
01:11:54,064 --> 01:11:55,774
I think it's a disrespect
1439
01:11:56,775 --> 01:11:59,861
and I think it's a cowardly act
of Alex Jones
1440
01:11:59,861 --> 01:12:02,572
not to be facing me here
in this courtroom.
1441
01:12:05,367 --> 01:12:07,952
I've now met Neil Heslin.
1442
01:12:07,952 --> 01:12:10,038
And I'll just say it,
'cause I gotta be honest.
1443
01:12:10,038 --> 01:12:11,122
He's slow.
1444
01:12:11,122 --> 01:12:13,083
And now that I've been around
him for over a week,
1445
01:12:13,083 --> 01:12:14,709
I'm like, "Okay."
1446
01:12:16,336 --> 01:12:22,008
Mr. Heslin,
did you hear what was being said
1447
01:12:22,008 --> 01:12:25,178
by Alex Jones and his associates
1448
01:12:25,178 --> 01:12:29,683
as a denial
that Jesse ever existed?
1449
01:12:30,141 --> 01:12:31,351
Yes.
1450
01:12:33,228 --> 01:12:34,479
He did live.
1451
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,107
I was blessed with him
for six and a half years.
1452
01:12:41,778 --> 01:12:44,614
I did hold my son
with a bullet hole in his head.
1453
01:12:45,573 --> 01:12:47,492
This trial is the only way
1454
01:12:47,492 --> 01:12:50,453
I can restore my credibility
and reputation.
1455
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:58,003
And Jesse's legacy and honor,
1456
01:12:58,003 --> 01:13:00,046
as he so much deserves.
1457
01:13:08,179 --> 01:13:11,933
Neil had always talked
about wanting his day in court
1458
01:13:11,933 --> 01:13:14,227
and he wanted to face Jones.
1459
01:13:14,227 --> 01:13:17,272
And actually, for me,
1460
01:13:17,272 --> 01:13:21,568
that was a pretty scary thing
to think about.
1461
01:13:23,820 --> 01:13:26,031
And, you know,
he wasn't in court a lot,
1462
01:13:26,031 --> 01:13:28,908
so you could never predict
when he was going to be in court
1463
01:13:28,908 --> 01:13:30,076
and when he wasn't.
1464
01:13:34,664 --> 01:13:36,332
How are you doing
today, Mr. Jones?
1465
01:13:36,332 --> 01:13:37,375
Doing great.
1466
01:13:37,375 --> 01:13:38,585
Mr. Jones,
can you tell us
1467
01:13:38,585 --> 01:13:40,128
why you weren't in trial
this morning?
1468
01:13:40,128 --> 01:13:41,921
The whole country
is turning against
the Democratic Party.
1469
01:13:54,642 --> 01:13:56,519
And there he is.
1470
01:14:03,777 --> 01:14:06,946
My stomach just turned over.
1471
01:14:06,946 --> 01:14:08,948
It did a flip-flop.
1472
01:14:08,948 --> 01:14:10,575
Spit your gum out, Mr. Jones.
1473
01:14:10,575 --> 01:14:12,577
-It's not gum.
-Well, what is it?
1474
01:14:13,286 --> 01:14:14,621
'Cause you're not allowed food
1475
01:14:14,621 --> 01:14:16,956
or gum of any kind
in the courtroom.
1476
01:14:16,956 --> 01:14:20,418
I had my tooth pulled
a week and a half ago,
1477
01:14:20,418 --> 01:14:22,629
and it's-- I had some gauze
in there earlier.
1478
01:14:22,629 --> 01:14:24,923
So you're chewing on your gauze?
1479
01:14:24,923 --> 01:14:26,299
Would you like me
to show you?
1480
01:14:26,299 --> 01:14:27,842
- No.
- I can show you right here.
1481
01:14:27,842 --> 01:14:30,595
I don't want
to see the inside of your mouth.
1482
01:14:30,595 --> 01:14:32,097
No, there's no gum.
1483
01:14:33,390 --> 01:14:35,100
- Hole.
-Sit down.
1484
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:39,938
We're bringing the jury in.
1485
01:14:53,118 --> 01:14:55,954
He's sitting
right in front of me,
1486
01:14:55,954 --> 01:14:58,832
and I'm looking
right into his eyes.
1487
01:15:05,922 --> 01:15:07,424
Are you pleased
that you at least
1488
01:15:07,424 --> 01:15:09,926
now finally get to
look this man in the eye?
1489
01:15:10,802 --> 01:15:11,803
Yes.
1490
01:15:12,846 --> 01:15:15,640
I wanted to tell you,
to your face,
1491
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,350
because I wanted you to know
1492
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:20,562
that I am a mother,
first and foremost.
1493
01:15:20,562 --> 01:15:22,564
And I know that you're a father.
1494
01:15:22,564 --> 01:15:24,691
And my son existed.
1495
01:15:24,691 --> 01:15:28,528
You're still on your show
today, trying to say
1496
01:15:28,528 --> 01:15:33,533
that I'm...
implying that I'm an actress.
1497
01:15:33,533 --> 01:15:37,078
That I'm deep state.
You have, this week.
1498
01:15:37,078 --> 01:15:41,750
And truth is what we base
our reality on.
1499
01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:46,629
And we have to agree on that
to have a civil society.
1500
01:15:47,505 --> 01:15:50,258
Sandy Hook is a hard truth.
1501
01:15:50,258 --> 01:15:53,511
And having a quarter
of Americans
1502
01:15:53,511 --> 01:15:55,555
doubt that Sandy Hook happened,
1503
01:15:55,555 --> 01:15:58,683
or doubt the facts
around Sandy Hook,
1504
01:15:58,683 --> 01:16:01,561
is not conducive
to keeping our kids safe.
1505
01:16:01,561 --> 01:16:02,854
It's not.
1506
01:16:03,938 --> 01:16:06,775
Jesse was real. I am a real mom.
1507
01:16:06,775 --> 01:16:09,736
I know you know that.
That's the problem.
1508
01:16:09,736 --> 01:16:14,074
I know you know that,
and you keep saying it.
1509
01:16:14,074 --> 01:16:19,871
You keep saying it.
Why? Why? For money?
1510
01:16:21,706 --> 01:16:24,584
Because you've made a lot
of money while you've said it.
1511
01:16:24,584 --> 01:16:27,337
I know you're-- I mean...
1512
01:16:33,176 --> 01:16:34,386
I know you believe me.
1513
01:16:35,387 --> 01:16:36,554
And yet you're going to get--
1514
01:16:36,554 --> 01:16:38,723
You're going to leave
this courthouse
1515
01:16:38,723 --> 01:16:41,142
and you're going to say it
again on your show.
1516
01:16:43,770 --> 01:16:46,064
You're saying no.
You just did it.
1517
01:16:49,818 --> 01:16:51,152
Did you have an opportunity
1518
01:16:51,152 --> 01:16:55,657
to hear what Mr. Jones
had said on his show,
1519
01:16:55,657 --> 01:16:57,826
not 45 minutes or so ago,
1520
01:16:57,826 --> 01:17:00,829
about Mr. Heslin
and his testimony?
1521
01:17:01,579 --> 01:17:02,414
Yes.
1522
01:17:02,414 --> 01:17:03,707
I'm going to object,
Your Honor.
1523
01:17:03,707 --> 01:17:06,710
It's an edited clip.
1524
01:17:06,710 --> 01:17:08,294
I don't think
it should be played.
1525
01:17:08,294 --> 01:17:09,379
Overruled.
1526
01:17:10,755 --> 01:17:12,632
I mean, I'll just say it
'cause I gotta be honest.
1527
01:17:12,632 --> 01:17:14,467
He's slow. Okay?
1528
01:17:14,467 --> 01:17:15,927
I don't think he's stupid.
1529
01:17:15,927 --> 01:17:17,804
I'm just saying he's... he's...
1530
01:17:17,804 --> 01:17:21,099
I mean, I think Heslin acts
like somebody on the spectrum,
1531
01:17:21,099 --> 01:17:23,810
and it makes me feel
like an even bigger jerk.
1532
01:17:26,730 --> 01:17:28,982
How does it make you feel,
1533
01:17:28,982 --> 01:17:34,404
knowing that that was said today
by this man on his radio show
1534
01:17:34,404 --> 01:17:36,990
while Jesse's father
was testifying
1535
01:17:36,990 --> 01:17:39,617
in that same seat
you're sitting in?
1536
01:17:39,617 --> 01:17:45,123
It makes me feel...
astounded in a bad way.
1537
01:17:45,123 --> 01:17:50,337
It's horrific.
Horrific. Horrific.
1538
01:17:51,588 --> 01:17:53,131
You have a claim
1539
01:17:53,131 --> 01:17:56,801
for intentional infliction
of emotional distress.
1540
01:17:56,801 --> 01:17:58,595
- Do you not?
- Yes.
1541
01:17:58,595 --> 01:18:02,349
And what do you hope
will be accomplished?
1542
01:18:04,267 --> 01:18:05,477
In some way,
1543
01:18:05,477 --> 01:18:09,439
you've impacted every single
day of my life negatively
1544
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,359
since-- almost since
Jesse's murder.
1545
01:18:14,110 --> 01:18:17,822
Alex has been asked to stop,
and he hasn't.
1546
01:18:17,822 --> 01:18:19,449
He's still doing it today.
1547
01:18:20,992 --> 01:18:23,161
So you're not going to stop.
1548
01:18:24,204 --> 01:18:27,665
I don't even think my pleading
with you up here
1549
01:18:27,665 --> 01:18:29,209
is going to get you to stop.
1550
01:18:29,834 --> 01:18:34,798
It seems so incredible to me
1551
01:18:35,757 --> 01:18:38,176
that we have to do this.
1552
01:18:41,596 --> 01:18:45,350
That we have to implore you,
1553
01:18:46,601 --> 01:18:48,103
not just implore you,
1554
01:18:48,103 --> 01:18:52,232
punish you to get you
to stop lying,
1555
01:18:53,775 --> 01:18:56,111
saying it's a hoax. It happened.
1556
01:18:56,111 --> 01:18:58,988
It's, like, surreal,
what's going on in here.
1557
01:18:58,988 --> 01:19:02,409
I think everyone in here
probably feels that way.
1558
01:19:08,707 --> 01:19:12,210
I hope to accomplish
an era of truth.
1559
01:19:13,670 --> 01:19:15,380
An era of truth.
1560
01:19:19,759 --> 01:19:21,011
Please.
1561
01:19:32,355 --> 01:19:36,276
Mr. Reynal, do you have
a witness for the jury?
1562
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:37,986
I do.
1563
01:19:37,986 --> 01:19:40,405
The defense would call
Alex E. Jones.
1564
01:19:40,405 --> 01:19:41,448
All right, Mr. Jones,
1565
01:19:41,448 --> 01:19:43,074
come stand in front of me, please.
1566
01:19:44,492 --> 01:19:45,869
Raise your right hand.
1567
01:19:45,869 --> 01:19:47,787
Do you solemnly swear or affirm,
1568
01:19:47,787 --> 01:19:49,164
under penalty of perjury,
1569
01:19:49,164 --> 01:19:51,166
that the testimony
you are about to give
1570
01:19:51,166 --> 01:19:53,168
shall be the truth,
the whole truth,
1571
01:19:53,168 --> 01:19:55,337
- and nothing but the truth?
- I do.
1572
01:19:55,337 --> 01:19:57,130
Thank you. Come have a seat.
1573
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,428
He didn't have
to be there.
1574
01:20:03,428 --> 01:20:05,096
You know, he wasn't subpoenaed.
1575
01:20:05,096 --> 01:20:07,640
You know, within the bounds
of what was allowed,
1576
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,517
we tried to let him
tell his story.
1577
01:20:11,353 --> 01:20:13,396
Alex, would you please
introduce yourself
1578
01:20:13,396 --> 01:20:15,273
to the ladies and gentlemen
of the jury?
1579
01:20:15,273 --> 01:20:16,441
Hi, I'm Alex Jones.
1580
01:20:18,276 --> 01:20:19,986
How are you feeling
today, Alex?
1581
01:20:20,737 --> 01:20:22,030
I actually feel good
1582
01:20:22,030 --> 01:20:24,991
because I get a chance to,
for the first time,
1583
01:20:24,991 --> 01:20:27,869
say what's really going on,
instead of the corporate media
1584
01:20:27,869 --> 01:20:29,120
and high-powered law firms
1585
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:30,955
manipulating what
I actually did.
1586
01:20:30,955 --> 01:20:32,999
I just do want to say this
on record,
1587
01:20:32,999 --> 01:20:34,125
'cause I've said it
many times...
1588
01:20:34,125 --> 01:20:35,293
Objection, non-responsive.
1589
01:20:35,293 --> 01:20:37,128
- I apologize to both--
-Uh! Sustained.
1590
01:20:37,128 --> 01:20:39,798
So, Mr. Jones,
this is not a conversation.
1591
01:20:39,798 --> 01:20:41,466
It's question and answer.
1592
01:20:41,466 --> 01:20:43,760
So she got to monologue
but not me. I got it.
1593
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:47,597
And so you have
to only answer questions
1594
01:20:47,597 --> 01:20:48,890
that are asked of you.
1595
01:20:49,474 --> 01:20:50,475
You may proceed.
1596
01:20:52,644 --> 01:20:58,441
Mr. Jones, have you been
wanting to apologize
1597
01:20:58,441 --> 01:21:00,985
to the plaintiffs in this case
for a long time?
1598
01:21:00,985 --> 01:21:01,986
Yes.
1599
01:21:01,986 --> 01:21:04,489
And what would you like
to say to them?
1600
01:21:04,489 --> 01:21:08,076
That I never intentionally
tried to hurt you.
1601
01:21:08,076 --> 01:21:12,080
Today, where they play
a 30 s-- or one-minute clip,
1602
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,457
and I knew that I said,
"I believe
1603
01:21:14,457 --> 01:21:19,504
that Scarlett Lewis is real
and she's a really nice person
1604
01:21:19,504 --> 01:21:21,047
and she's really
a sweet person."
1605
01:21:21,047 --> 01:21:23,717
And then I went through and
talked about her ex-husband too.
1606
01:21:23,717 --> 01:21:26,052
And then... then I said,
"I believe they're being fed
and manipulated."
1607
01:21:26,052 --> 01:21:27,804
Your Honor,
objection, non-responsive.
1608
01:21:27,804 --> 01:21:29,347
Sustained.
1609
01:21:29,347 --> 01:21:31,141
- This is a perfect--
-Sustained.
1610
01:21:31,141 --> 01:21:33,518
When you hear sustained,
you have to stop talking.
1611
01:21:33,518 --> 01:21:35,020
Okay. Okay.
1612
01:21:36,896 --> 01:21:39,149
Excuse me.
Sorry.
1613
01:21:39,149 --> 01:21:42,485
- Mr. Jones.
- Oh, thank you very much.
1614
01:21:42,485 --> 01:21:45,030
I'm sorry. I just... I just...
1615
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:48,199
I'm about to have
to have surgery on this. It's...
1616
01:21:48,199 --> 01:21:49,659
It's been like this
for ten years,
1617
01:21:49,659 --> 01:21:51,369
but it's really bad now.
1618
01:21:51,369 --> 01:21:56,291
Let's talk about
Infowars and its business model.
1619
01:21:57,167 --> 01:21:59,711
- Do you sell vitamins?
- Yes.
1620
01:21:59,711 --> 01:22:03,256
We have them made
by the... the top lab
1621
01:22:03,256 --> 01:22:05,091
recognized in the United States.
1622
01:22:05,091 --> 01:22:07,177
All we do is put
our label on it,
1623
01:22:07,177 --> 01:22:09,929
so we know it's triple-tested,
the highest quality.
1624
01:22:09,929 --> 01:22:11,264
And that's why people love it
1625
01:22:11,264 --> 01:22:14,893
because it is
the best out there.
1626
01:22:14,893 --> 01:22:16,019
There's all sorts of crap
1627
01:22:16,019 --> 01:22:17,812
you can buy
at a gas station out there.
1628
01:22:17,812 --> 01:22:19,481
That's not what ours is.
1629
01:22:19,481 --> 01:22:24,402
I mean, we buy our PQQ
and CoQ10 from the Japanese.
1630
01:22:24,402 --> 01:22:26,613
I mean, it's the best.
1631
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:32,535
Let's discuss email.
1632
01:22:32,535 --> 01:22:36,706
How much email
does Infowars routinely get?
1633
01:22:37,791 --> 01:22:41,086
Uh, I mean... I mean,
I know when we looked to comply
1634
01:22:41,086 --> 01:22:43,588
with the discovery,
which we complied with,
1635
01:22:43,588 --> 01:22:45,924
it was over ten million
that they had to search
1636
01:22:45,924 --> 01:22:48,218
that was still in the inbox, unopened.
1637
01:22:48,218 --> 01:22:51,513
How many employees
would Infowars have to have,
1638
01:22:51,513 --> 01:22:55,225
in your view, if you were
to actually read every message,
1639
01:22:55,225 --> 01:22:58,144
every email, every tip
that's sent in?
1640
01:22:59,187 --> 01:23:00,939
It would take ten,
15, 20 people.
1641
01:23:00,939 --> 01:23:02,732
We'd go bankrupt,
which we are now. But...
1642
01:23:05,652 --> 01:23:07,946
Your Honor,
I have a couple motions
I'm gonna need to take up
1643
01:23:07,946 --> 01:23:09,114
outside the presence
of the jury.
1644
01:23:09,114 --> 01:23:10,448
I don't know
if you want to do that now
1645
01:23:10,448 --> 01:23:12,117
or wait till he's done
with his direct.
1646
01:23:12,117 --> 01:23:14,869
All right. We're gonna--
1647
01:23:14,869 --> 01:23:17,205
Just-- just sit tight
for a second.
1648
01:23:18,957 --> 01:23:20,583
We're going to take a break.
1649
01:23:20,583 --> 01:23:23,378
- All right, thank you.
-All rise.
1650
01:23:26,589 --> 01:23:28,091
I don't know
what's going on, Your Honor,
1651
01:23:28,091 --> 01:23:29,843
but I need to bring a couple
of motions there
1652
01:23:29,843 --> 01:23:31,428
for jury instructions.
1653
01:23:31,428 --> 01:23:35,098
Mr. Reynal just absolutely
solicited direct testimony
1654
01:23:35,098 --> 01:23:37,142
from Mr. Jones
that he is bankrupt.
1655
01:23:37,142 --> 01:23:39,561
Mr. Jones has testified
straight into the record
1656
01:23:39,561 --> 01:23:42,230
that he's bankrupt,
which is not true.
1657
01:23:42,230 --> 01:23:44,399
Mr. Jones
just intentionally did that
1658
01:23:44,399 --> 01:23:47,152
in violation of your order
to attempt to poison
1659
01:23:47,152 --> 01:23:48,486
this compensatory
damage verdict,
1660
01:23:48,486 --> 01:23:52,073
to try to tell this jury
that he's broke when he's not.
1661
01:23:52,073 --> 01:23:53,950
The second is that
he absolutely--
1662
01:23:53,950 --> 01:23:57,245
Mr. Jones just fully testified,
"We complied with discovery,"
1663
01:23:57,245 --> 01:24:00,498
but we both know Mr. Jones
did anything but comply
1664
01:24:00,498 --> 01:24:02,709
with discovery and did that
for four years,
1665
01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:06,755
thumbing his nose in the face
of this court in rank contempt.
1666
01:24:08,631 --> 01:24:09,632
Mr. Jones...
1667
01:24:12,093 --> 01:24:15,180
you may not say to this jury...
1668
01:24:16,973 --> 01:24:18,808
that you complied
with discovery.
1669
01:24:20,018 --> 01:24:23,772
That is not true.
You may not say it again.
1670
01:24:25,190 --> 01:24:29,152
You may not tell this jury
that you are bankrupt.
1671
01:24:29,152 --> 01:24:31,529
That is also not true.
1672
01:24:32,447 --> 01:24:33,448
It seems...
1673
01:24:34,866 --> 01:24:37,702
absurd to instruct you again
1674
01:24:37,702 --> 01:24:41,414
that you must tell the truth
while you testify.
1675
01:24:41,414 --> 01:24:42,374
Yet here I am.
1676
01:24:42,374 --> 01:24:45,960
You must tell the truth
while you testify.
1677
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,546
This is not your show.
1678
01:24:50,090 --> 01:24:52,509
Do you understand
what I have said?
1679
01:24:52,509 --> 01:24:53,426
Yes or no?
1680
01:24:53,426 --> 01:24:56,388
Do you understand
what I have said?
1681
01:24:56,388 --> 01:24:58,890
Yes. I believe
what I said was true. So--
1682
01:24:58,890 --> 01:25:02,936
Yes, you believe everything
you say is true, but it isn't.
1683
01:25:02,936 --> 01:25:05,522
Your beliefs do not make
something true.
1684
01:25:05,522 --> 01:25:09,234
That is...
That is what we're doing here.
1685
01:25:10,568 --> 01:25:12,696
You understand
what I have said?
1686
01:25:12,696 --> 01:25:13,655
I do understand.
1687
01:25:13,655 --> 01:25:16,241
You understand the instructions
I have given you
1688
01:25:16,241 --> 01:25:18,076
for your testimony in court?
1689
01:25:18,076 --> 01:25:20,328
Yes.
1690
01:25:20,328 --> 01:25:24,457
I am not going
to bring the jury back today.
1691
01:25:25,542 --> 01:25:27,544
All right.
We'll see you tomorrow.
1692
01:25:27,544 --> 01:25:30,213
- Thank you.
-All rise.
1693
01:25:33,591 --> 01:25:36,553
He had been coughing a lot
1694
01:25:36,553 --> 01:25:40,223
and he had explained
that his larynx was torn.
1695
01:25:40,223 --> 01:25:44,644
And I felt such tremendous
compassion for him.
1696
01:25:47,522 --> 01:25:51,234
And so brought him a water
and four cough drops.
1697
01:25:53,987 --> 01:25:55,947
Oh, thank you.
You're very sweet.
1698
01:26:12,797 --> 01:26:14,299
I want you to know that.
1699
01:26:18,136 --> 01:26:19,262
I believe your son died,
1700
01:26:19,262 --> 01:26:20,638
and I apologize for everything
that happened.
1701
01:26:20,638 --> 01:26:22,557
And that he's slow
and autistic. Thanks, Jones.
1702
01:26:22,557 --> 01:26:25,352
No, I'm slow about
certain things, too. I said...
1703
01:26:25,352 --> 01:26:27,103
Well, anyways,
I was being honest on air.
1704
01:26:27,103 --> 01:26:28,480
And I think people have been--
1705
01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:30,190
I think a lot of the stuff
you said--
1706
01:26:30,190 --> 01:26:32,567
have been manipulating
and giving you guys stuff--
1707
01:26:32,567 --> 01:26:33,860
That's it.
We're not talking anymore.
1708
01:26:33,860 --> 01:26:36,321
You're not doing this.
That's not even a thought.
1709
01:26:36,321 --> 01:26:38,531
That's not the way this goes.
1710
01:26:38,531 --> 01:26:40,825
Why? 'Cause you can't feed
'em fake videos anymore?
1711
01:26:40,825 --> 01:26:42,786
Oh, shut your mouth.
1712
01:26:42,786 --> 01:26:44,371
That's what you try to do
is shut my mouth.
1713
01:26:44,371 --> 01:26:45,914
- You'll never succeed.
-Let it go.
1714
01:26:45,914 --> 01:26:48,458
-That's okay.
-Don't touch me, sir.
1715
01:26:49,501 --> 01:26:51,628
Well, I think
I'm autistic too, mate.
1716
01:26:53,046 --> 01:26:55,256
-Stop there and stay.
1717
01:26:57,467 --> 01:26:58,843
See that?
They came over to see us.
1718
01:27:10,438 --> 01:27:13,858
Mr. Jones, I want to know,
1719
01:27:15,235 --> 01:27:16,528
you taking this trial seriously?
1720
01:27:16,528 --> 01:27:17,946
You're approaching it
in good faith?
1721
01:27:19,030 --> 01:27:21,199
- Absolutely.
-Okay.
1722
01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:24,536
The truth is,
you and your company
1723
01:27:24,536 --> 01:27:27,622
want the world to believe
1724
01:27:27,622 --> 01:27:31,960
that this judge is rigging
this court proceeding
1725
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,337
to make sure that a script,
1726
01:27:35,171 --> 01:27:39,342
a literal script,
is being followed.
1727
01:27:39,342 --> 01:27:41,219
That's what you want
the world to believe.
1728
01:27:41,219 --> 01:27:42,595
No, I believe the jury's real.
1729
01:27:42,595 --> 01:27:43,930
Okay.
Your Honor, at this time,
1730
01:27:43,930 --> 01:27:46,182
we'd like to offer a clip
from Infowars on Friday
1731
01:27:46,182 --> 01:27:47,726
from the purposes of impeachment
1732
01:27:47,726 --> 01:27:50,395
in which those exact words
were said.
1733
01:27:50,395 --> 01:27:53,314
So that's why the judge is
rigging the court proceeding,
1734
01:27:53,314 --> 01:27:55,275
to make sure that the script,
1735
01:27:55,275 --> 01:27:56,943
this is literally a script,
1736
01:27:56,943 --> 01:28:01,072
a script gets told in a certain
way for future audiences.
1737
01:28:04,242 --> 01:28:05,744
That's from your show,
isn't it?
1738
01:28:07,412 --> 01:28:10,540
- That's justice on fire.
-Oh, okay.
1739
01:28:10,540 --> 01:28:12,876
- Can I see it, please?
-Yes,
you may, Your Honor.
1740
01:28:19,007 --> 01:28:21,217
This is you taking
this trial seriously
1741
01:28:21,217 --> 01:28:23,595
and in good faith?
That's what this is?
1742
01:28:23,595 --> 01:28:26,931
The judge is the fire
of burning Lady Liberty.
1743
01:28:26,931 --> 01:28:28,183
It's not the judge...
1744
01:28:28,183 --> 01:28:32,520
The judge is consuming freedom.
1745
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,481
I sure hope
some of your viewers
1746
01:28:34,481 --> 01:28:35,732
are able to make
that distinction
1747
01:28:35,732 --> 01:28:37,901
that you just split on
that hair, don't you?
1748
01:28:39,569 --> 01:28:41,112
One of the things
you talked about yesterday
1749
01:28:41,112 --> 01:28:42,405
is you complied with discovery,
1750
01:28:42,405 --> 01:28:43,448
you said that
on the witness stand?
1751
01:28:43,448 --> 01:28:45,283
That's one of the things
I talked about.
1752
01:28:45,283 --> 01:28:47,994
Okay. One of the things
that you were ordered to do
1753
01:28:47,994 --> 01:28:49,954
in this lawsuit...
1754
01:28:49,954 --> 01:28:51,998
you were ordered to turn over
1755
01:28:51,998 --> 01:28:55,210
any text messages
mentioning Sandy Hook, right?
1756
01:28:55,210 --> 01:28:57,837
- Yes.
- And you didn't have any. Right?
1757
01:28:59,089 --> 01:29:00,423
Not that we could find.
1758
01:29:00,423 --> 01:29:03,635
And you, in fact, told me
in your sworn testimony,
1759
01:29:03,635 --> 01:29:06,429
before coming to this courtroom,
you searched, right?
1760
01:29:06,429 --> 01:29:07,889
-I did.
- Okay.
1761
01:29:11,476 --> 01:29:13,978
Mr. Jones, I'd like
to show you what's been marked
1762
01:29:13,978 --> 01:29:15,814
as claimant's exhibit 130.
1763
01:29:19,109 --> 01:29:20,485
- That's text messages.
- Yes.
1764
01:29:20,485 --> 01:29:22,237
And they mention
Sandy Hook, don't they?
1765
01:29:22,237 --> 01:29:23,947
Yes.
1766
01:29:25,198 --> 01:29:27,033
I've never seen
this text message.
1767
01:29:27,033 --> 01:29:28,118
You guys have all this stuff,
1768
01:29:28,118 --> 01:29:29,661
and you say
we didn't give anything.
1769
01:29:30,704 --> 01:29:32,956
So you did get my text messages.
1770
01:29:32,956 --> 01:29:34,874
You said you didn't. Nice trick.
1771
01:29:34,874 --> 01:29:37,836
Twelve days ago,
your attorneys messed up
1772
01:29:37,836 --> 01:29:41,214
and sent me
an entire digital copy
1773
01:29:41,214 --> 01:29:43,216
of your entire cell phone
1774
01:29:43,216 --> 01:29:45,885
with every text message
you've sent
1775
01:29:45,885 --> 01:29:47,345
for the past two years.
1776
01:29:47,345 --> 01:29:49,848
And that is how I know
you lied to me
1777
01:29:49,848 --> 01:29:51,850
when you said
you didn't have text messages
1778
01:29:51,850 --> 01:29:53,810
about Sandy Hook.
Did you know that?
1779
01:29:53,810 --> 01:29:57,188
I-- See, I told you the truth.
This is your Perry Mason moment.
1780
01:29:57,188 --> 01:29:59,816
I gave them my phone. And then--
1781
01:29:59,816 --> 01:30:01,735
Mr. Jones,
you need to answer the question.
1782
01:30:01,735 --> 01:30:03,528
- No, I--
-
Did you know this happened?
1783
01:30:03,528 --> 01:30:04,863
No, I didn't know this happened.
1784
01:30:04,863 --> 01:30:07,532
But I mean, I told you.
I gave my phone over.
1785
01:30:07,532 --> 01:30:09,325
Just answer the question.
1786
01:30:09,325 --> 01:30:10,618
You said
in your deposition,
1787
01:30:10,618 --> 01:30:12,704
you searched your phone.
1788
01:30:13,288 --> 01:30:14,539
You were asked,
1789
01:30:14,539 --> 01:30:17,834
"Do you have Sandy Hook
text messages on your phone?"
1790
01:30:17,834 --> 01:30:19,002
And you said, "No."
1791
01:30:19,002 --> 01:30:21,504
You said that under oath,
Mr. Jones, didn't you?
1792
01:30:21,504 --> 01:30:23,548
I mean, if I was mistaken,
I was mistaken.
1793
01:30:23,548 --> 01:30:25,508
But you've got the messages
right there.
1794
01:30:25,508 --> 01:30:27,052
You know
what perjury is, right?
1795
01:30:27,719 --> 01:30:28,928
I just want to make sure
you know
1796
01:30:28,928 --> 01:30:30,555
before we go any further.
You know what it is.
1797
01:30:31,389 --> 01:30:32,390
Yes, I do.
1798
01:30:32,390 --> 01:30:35,602
But you testified,
under oath, previously,
1799
01:30:35,602 --> 01:30:39,272
that you, personally,
searched your phone,
1800
01:30:39,272 --> 01:30:42,567
for the phrase "Sandy Hook"
and there were no messages.
1801
01:30:42,567 --> 01:30:44,569
- You said that under oath.
-Yes.
1802
01:30:44,569 --> 01:30:47,238
- And you lied when you said it.
- No, I did not lie.
1803
01:30:48,740 --> 01:30:52,911
Are you aware
that your attorney has argued
1804
01:30:52,911 --> 01:30:56,414
this is what you should pay
for the damages?
1805
01:30:56,414 --> 01:30:57,749
Do you agree with it?
1806
01:30:57,749 --> 01:31:00,085
- Do I agree with it?
- A dollar. A dollar, is that...
1807
01:31:01,419 --> 01:31:02,921
We done?
1808
01:31:02,921 --> 01:31:04,673
I'll pay it for you.
Are we done?
1809
01:31:04,673 --> 01:31:07,050
What does the New York Times do
for lying about WMDs?
1810
01:31:07,050 --> 01:31:08,426
I don't think
there's any point
1811
01:31:08,426 --> 01:31:10,178
in asking you
any more questions, Mr. Jones.
1812
01:31:10,178 --> 01:31:11,388
Okay.
1813
01:31:21,481 --> 01:31:22,941
It couldn't have gone better.
1814
01:31:22,941 --> 01:31:25,985
This case was going to end
just like it began.
1815
01:31:27,529 --> 01:31:29,280
The very first question
I ever asked Jones
1816
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,199
was about,
"Why are you lying to me?"
1817
01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:33,451
And the very last thing
I ever showed the jury was,
1818
01:31:33,451 --> 01:31:34,744
"This man's a liar."
1819
01:31:42,460 --> 01:31:44,295
Ladies
and gentlemen of the jury,
1820
01:31:44,295 --> 01:31:48,508
at this time, I will present
to you the charge of the court.
1821
01:31:48,508 --> 01:31:51,302
You will go to the jury room
to decide the case,
1822
01:31:51,302 --> 01:31:54,806
answer the questions that are
attached, and reach a verdict.
1823
01:31:56,141 --> 01:31:59,894
Answer separately in dollars
and cents for each person
1824
01:31:59,894 --> 01:32:02,564
for the damages listed below,
if any.
1825
01:32:04,024 --> 01:32:05,608
All rise.
1826
01:32:26,338 --> 01:32:28,465
Hello, we love you.
1827
01:32:29,591 --> 01:32:31,343
You guys got any questions?
1828
01:32:31,343 --> 01:32:33,178
Just your thoughts on today.
1829
01:32:33,845 --> 01:32:36,473
Our side told the truth.
1830
01:32:36,473 --> 01:32:38,683
Their lawyers
did nothing but lie.
1831
01:32:38,683 --> 01:32:41,811
But there's no
deep pockets here,
1832
01:32:41,811 --> 01:32:43,104
so they're in
for a rude awakening.
1833
01:32:43,104 --> 01:32:46,399
So no matter what
the verdict is, I'm at peace.
1834
01:32:46,399 --> 01:32:47,901
I always try to tell the truth.
1835
01:32:47,901 --> 01:32:49,986
What did you think
about the text messages?
1836
01:32:49,986 --> 01:32:51,696
God bless, guys.
Appreciate you for coming.
1837
01:32:51,696 --> 01:32:54,699
We love you
Love, love, love.
1838
01:32:58,703 --> 01:32:59,913
What was that Tom Petty said,
1839
01:32:59,913 --> 01:33:01,289
"Waiting is the hardest part"?
1840
01:33:06,378 --> 01:33:09,255
The idea of him going back and
starting this all over again,
1841
01:33:09,255 --> 01:33:10,507
he will.
1842
01:33:10,507 --> 01:33:12,550
That's why for a punitive
damage verdict,
1843
01:33:12,550 --> 01:33:14,219
you must take enough
1844
01:33:14,219 --> 01:33:16,888
so that he can never
re-enter public life.
1845
01:33:18,056 --> 01:33:19,057
Because if you do--
1846
01:33:19,057 --> 01:33:22,435
If this isn't his exit
from the American stage,
1847
01:33:22,435 --> 01:33:24,771
his story is nowhere
near close to over.
1848
01:33:39,953 --> 01:33:41,371
- Mm-hmm.
-All rise.
1849
01:33:48,837 --> 01:33:50,672
All right,
you may be seated.
1850
01:33:52,048 --> 01:33:53,508
All right, could you hand
the verdict
1851
01:33:53,508 --> 01:33:56,678
to Ms. Matusek-Steele, please.
Thank you.
1852
01:33:58,555 --> 01:33:59,764
Thank you.
1853
01:34:12,736 --> 01:34:14,237
Question number one,
1854
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,240
4,200,000 dollars.
1855
01:34:19,784 --> 01:34:21,286
Question number two,
1856
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,289
20,500,000 dollars.
1857
01:34:25,623 --> 01:34:27,709
Question number three,
1858
01:34:27,709 --> 01:34:30,462
20,500,000 dollars.
1859
01:34:54,819 --> 01:34:56,613
It's the end
of the beginning.
1860
01:34:56,613 --> 01:34:58,948
And boy, are these clients
happy about it.
1861
01:34:58,948 --> 01:35:00,283
There was certainly a message
1862
01:35:00,283 --> 01:35:02,911
sent out of this courthouse
today, that's for sure.
1863
01:35:02,911 --> 01:35:04,496
So, what's your message?
1864
01:35:04,496 --> 01:35:08,625
To other parents,
I wanted to represent you well.
1865
01:35:08,625 --> 01:35:11,795
I know that
you have endured pain,
1866
01:35:11,795 --> 01:35:15,882
um, just like I have
over the past ten years.
1867
01:35:15,882 --> 01:35:20,428
I truly do hope and believe
that this will usher in
1868
01:35:20,428 --> 01:35:23,848
a new era of
the importance of truth.
1869
01:35:26,935 --> 01:35:29,479
It was obviously higher
than we wanted,
1870
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,691
higher than I believe
was supported by the evidence,
1871
01:35:32,691 --> 01:35:36,528
but it was still
a manageable number.
1872
01:35:36,528 --> 01:35:39,030
You know, kept my client alive.
1873
01:35:43,243 --> 01:35:46,037
So, it's day one
of another Alex Jones
1874
01:35:46,037 --> 01:35:47,914
defamation trial
here in Connecticut.
1875
01:35:47,914 --> 01:35:50,208
We're about 20 miles away
from Newtown.
1876
01:35:50,208 --> 01:35:53,294
Even ten years after
the Sandy Hook tragedy,
1877
01:35:53,294 --> 01:35:55,463
these Sandy Hook families
and victims
1878
01:35:55,463 --> 01:35:57,424
are still facing harassment
1879
01:35:57,424 --> 01:36:02,012
because Jones spread lies
and called the shooting a hoax.
1880
01:36:15,066 --> 01:36:16,943
They're coming for everybody,
ladies and gentlemen.
1881
01:36:16,943 --> 01:36:18,945
"Alex Jones goes to trial
for a second time
1882
01:36:18,945 --> 01:36:20,572
in Sandy Hook hoax case."
1883
01:36:21,406 --> 01:36:22,407
But I'll tell you this,
1884
01:36:22,407 --> 01:36:24,993
we can stay on air through
everything they're doing
1885
01:36:24,993 --> 01:36:26,661
if we keep fighting
and don't give up.
1886
01:36:26,661 --> 01:36:28,872
But it takes massive money.
1887
01:36:28,872 --> 01:36:30,582
Don't go through
everything you've done
1888
01:36:30,582 --> 01:36:33,835
supporting this broadcast
and then give up at the end.
1889
01:36:33,835 --> 01:36:36,588
Now is the most critical
time ever
1890
01:36:36,588 --> 01:36:40,008
to support infowarsstore.com.
1891
01:36:49,100 --> 01:36:51,144
- Morning.
1892
01:36:52,270 --> 01:36:54,689
Each of you
was chosen to be here today
1893
01:36:54,689 --> 01:36:56,816
to compensate them
for their grief.
1894
01:36:56,816 --> 01:37:00,445
And you're being asked
to make an example of Alex.
1895
01:37:01,112 --> 01:37:03,156
Money is their weapon of choice.
1896
01:37:04,366 --> 01:37:05,617
Money is their weapon.
1897
01:37:06,743 --> 01:37:07,952
Disarm them.
1898
01:37:09,079 --> 01:37:11,081
First, they came for Alex Jones.
1899
01:37:11,873 --> 01:37:12,957
Who's next?
1900
01:37:15,752 --> 01:37:17,253
My name is David Wheeler.
1901
01:37:17,253 --> 01:37:20,715
Last name spelled
W-H-E-E-L-E-R.
1902
01:37:20,715 --> 01:37:23,426
- Francine Wheeler.
- Erica Lafferty.
1903
01:37:23,426 --> 01:37:25,220
My name is Nicole Hockley.
1904
01:37:25,220 --> 01:37:26,179
I do.
1905
01:37:26,179 --> 01:37:27,972
Our families
will take the stand
1906
01:37:27,972 --> 01:37:29,307
and they will testify.
1907
01:37:29,849 --> 01:37:31,142
It took a lot of courage
1908
01:37:31,142 --> 01:37:33,269
to start this case
in the first place,
1909
01:37:33,269 --> 01:37:36,773
knowing that they would expose
themselves to even more abuse.
1910
01:37:36,773 --> 01:37:38,900
Are you the father
1911
01:37:38,900 --> 01:37:40,443
- of Benjamin Wheeler?
- Yes.
1912
01:37:40,443 --> 01:37:42,654
And did Benjamin Wheeler
die in the Sandy Hook shooting?
1913
01:37:42,654 --> 01:37:43,780
Yes.
1914
01:37:43,780 --> 01:37:44,989
Just after the two-year
anniversary,
1915
01:37:44,989 --> 01:37:46,491
I was on my way
to a birthday party
1916
01:37:46,491 --> 01:37:47,367
and I was at a gas station
1917
01:37:47,367 --> 01:37:49,994
and somebody just walked out
and pointed
1918
01:37:49,994 --> 01:37:52,455
and was like, "You're part
of that Sandy Hook hoax."
1919
01:37:52,455 --> 01:37:55,917
And they said,
"Look, see, she's an actor."
1920
01:37:57,210 --> 01:38:00,338
People were, you know,
accusing me of lying,
1921
01:38:01,006 --> 01:38:02,340
telling me Ben never lived,
1922
01:38:03,383 --> 01:38:06,386
uh, telling me that
I was going to burn in hell,
1923
01:38:06,386 --> 01:38:08,513
and that I would pay
for what I had done.
1924
01:38:08,513 --> 01:38:10,432
You know, things would be
mailed to my house.
1925
01:38:10,432 --> 01:38:12,392
There were, you know,
1926
01:38:14,019 --> 01:38:18,189
threats of rape and...
1927
01:38:18,189 --> 01:38:20,025
You were receiving
threats from people
1928
01:38:20,025 --> 01:38:21,526
saying they were going
to rape you?
1929
01:38:21,526 --> 01:38:22,694
Correct.
1930
01:38:22,694 --> 01:38:25,822
Someone came to the house.
This person demanded to see Ben.
1931
01:38:25,822 --> 01:38:27,657
"I know he's here.
I know he's alive."
1932
01:38:31,036 --> 01:38:32,537
Is this still
happening to you?
1933
01:38:33,580 --> 01:38:34,998
Yes.
1934
01:38:34,998 --> 01:38:38,043
You know, it makes you feel
like you don't matter.
1935
01:38:38,043 --> 01:38:39,711
You know, it makes you feel
like what you went through
1936
01:38:39,711 --> 01:38:41,212
doesn't matter.
1937
01:38:41,212 --> 01:38:46,718
Jacqueline Barden, B-A-R-D-E-N.
Daniel was our baby,
1938
01:38:46,718 --> 01:38:49,054
but yet,
he was so compassionate.
1939
01:38:49,054 --> 01:38:53,224
Did you and Mark
get threatening letters?
1940
01:38:53,224 --> 01:38:56,019
Yeah.
One-- I remember one saying
1941
01:38:56,019 --> 01:38:57,896
that they were
at Daniel's grave,
1942
01:38:57,896 --> 01:38:59,314
and they had peed on his grave
1943
01:38:59,314 --> 01:39:01,066
because they didn't think
anybody, you know,
1944
01:39:01,066 --> 01:39:03,485
they didn't believe
that Daniel was buried.
1945
01:39:04,527 --> 01:39:05,945
And another letter--
1946
01:39:05,945 --> 01:39:07,238
These letters came
to your home?
1947
01:39:07,238 --> 01:39:08,490
- What's that?
-These letters
1948
01:39:08,490 --> 01:39:11,117
- came to your home?
- Yeah. And then another letter
1949
01:39:11,117 --> 01:39:12,952
was that they were gonna...
1950
01:39:12,952 --> 01:39:15,747
they were gonna dig
Daniel's grave up,
1951
01:39:15,747 --> 01:39:17,665
because he wasn't there,
to prove it.
1952
01:39:19,084 --> 01:39:20,919
My name is Mark Barden.
1953
01:39:20,919 --> 01:39:22,921
That was a very typical moment.
1954
01:39:22,921 --> 01:39:25,340
He was a very affectionate
little boy.
1955
01:39:26,883 --> 01:39:28,843
It was grueling.
It was excruciating,
1956
01:39:28,843 --> 01:39:31,930
mostly because we had
to re-expose ourselves
1957
01:39:31,930 --> 01:39:34,641
to the very thing
that we were trying to stop.
1958
01:39:34,641 --> 01:39:39,270
To stand there
in the austerity
1959
01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:43,400
of a court of law
and to expose all of that.
1960
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:47,195
It's about the most vulnerable
one can feel.
1961
01:39:47,195 --> 01:39:49,489
So, it's a whole lot.
1962
01:39:49,489 --> 01:39:52,117
It's a whole lot of everything
all at once.
1963
01:39:52,117 --> 01:39:56,955
Daniel's grave, um,
this is so sacrosanct
1964
01:39:56,955 --> 01:40:01,459
and hallowed
a place for my family,
1965
01:40:01,459 --> 01:40:04,504
and to hear that people
were desecrating it
1966
01:40:04,504 --> 01:40:07,382
and urinating on it
and threatening to dig it up...
1967
01:40:09,384 --> 01:40:11,970
I-- I don't know
how to articulate to you
1968
01:40:11,970 --> 01:40:13,596
what that feels like,
but that's where we are.
1969
01:40:28,528 --> 01:40:29,696
Hello everybody.
1970
01:40:29,696 --> 01:40:33,324
I'm here for the four-year
planned show trial...
1971
01:40:33,324 --> 01:40:36,578
Alex Jones.
He's under subpoena to be here.
1972
01:40:36,578 --> 01:40:38,788
So, you know, there's real
consequences for him
1973
01:40:38,788 --> 01:40:39,998
if he doesn't show.
1974
01:40:39,998 --> 01:40:42,000
They're using these
families as pawns.
1975
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,502
I have questioned hundreds
of major events,
1976
01:40:44,502 --> 01:40:46,463
and I've always done it
from a good place.
1977
01:40:46,463 --> 01:40:48,048
That's why I have
a giant audience
1978
01:40:48,048 --> 01:40:49,507
of millions and millions
of loyal listeners,
1979
01:40:49,507 --> 01:40:52,469
because they know, unlike
the corporate controlled media,
1980
01:40:52,469 --> 01:40:53,887
I try to tell the truth.
1981
01:40:53,887 --> 01:40:55,638
These people lie on purpose.
1982
01:40:55,638 --> 01:40:58,850
That's a big difference.
I've made mistakes by accident.
1983
01:40:58,850 --> 01:41:00,185
They're lying on purpose,
1984
01:41:00,185 --> 01:41:02,312
and they've misrepresented
everything I've said and done.
1985
01:41:02,312 --> 01:41:05,357
Find the real Alex Jones
at infowars.com.
1986
01:41:05,357 --> 01:41:07,150
And we have the number one book
in the world,
1987
01:41:07,150 --> 01:41:09,069
The Great Reset:
And the War for the World,
1988
01:41:09,069 --> 01:41:11,905
that exposes the globalists,
Klaus Schwab, the WEF,
1989
01:41:11,905 --> 01:41:13,365
and the New World Order.
1990
01:41:13,365 --> 01:41:15,075
And that's why they're coming
after me, trying to silence me,
1991
01:41:15,075 --> 01:41:16,659
because liberty and freedom
is popular,
1992
01:41:16,659 --> 01:41:19,371
and they will not silence me,
and we will not be stopped,
1993
01:41:19,371 --> 01:41:21,206
and America will prevail
peacefully
1994
01:41:21,206 --> 01:41:22,665
with justice and liberty.
1995
01:41:22,665 --> 01:41:26,795
The answer to the 1984 tyranny
is 1776. Thank you very much.
1996
01:41:41,142 --> 01:41:42,352
I didn't know
how I would react
1997
01:41:42,352 --> 01:41:44,145
when I saw him in person.
1998
01:41:44,813 --> 01:41:47,232
You know, in Texas he was on,
1999
01:41:47,232 --> 01:41:49,901
"I'm a good guy,
I'm your friend,"
2000
01:41:49,901 --> 01:41:52,779
and that tone was completely
different in Connecticut.
2001
01:41:52,779 --> 01:41:54,989
He was angry.
2002
01:41:54,989 --> 01:41:58,118
He looked pissed.
2003
01:41:58,118 --> 01:42:01,496
Like, "I don't want to be here,
I shouldn't be here."
2004
01:42:03,581 --> 01:42:06,251
He wouldn't even look at us
in Connecticut.
2005
01:42:06,251 --> 01:42:07,836
He wouldn't acknowledge us.
2006
01:42:07,836 --> 01:42:10,088
It was like
we didn't even exist.
2007
01:42:10,088 --> 01:42:12,966
He didn't want to say like,
"Hey, I'm sorry,"
2008
01:42:12,966 --> 01:42:15,719
'cause he wasn't.
He wasn't sorry.
2009
01:42:20,890 --> 01:42:22,350
There's a part of you that...
2010
01:42:23,268 --> 01:42:30,233
wants him to feel what you feel.
2011
01:42:30,233 --> 01:42:34,654
See what he has caused.
You want some moment...
2012
01:42:35,613 --> 01:42:38,575
of connecting
with this abuser...
2013
01:42:40,452 --> 01:42:45,248
where he can just have
an inkling of respect for you,
2014
01:42:45,248 --> 01:42:47,625
or a moment of reflection.
2015
01:42:51,629 --> 01:42:53,465
And he wasn't going
to give us that.
2016
01:42:54,507 --> 01:42:56,301
The lie you spread...
2017
01:42:57,802 --> 01:42:59,804
for years and years
2018
01:42:59,804 --> 01:43:03,850
was that the families behind me
were actors, correct?
2019
01:43:05,143 --> 01:43:06,561
- I can't answer--
-That's a yes or no.
2020
01:43:06,561 --> 01:43:09,189
-No, objection.
- It's too complex--
2021
01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:11,608
- Sorry.
-Motion in limine.
2022
01:43:11,608 --> 01:43:14,569
Mr. Jones, for years
and years and years,
2023
01:43:14,569 --> 01:43:17,530
you acknowledge that among
the things that you said
2024
01:43:17,530 --> 01:43:19,240
about Sandy Hook
was that it was fake?
2025
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:20,450
- Yes?
- Yes.
2026
01:43:20,450 --> 01:43:22,994
-Synthetic?
- Yes.
2027
01:43:22,994 --> 01:43:25,038
-Manufactured?
- Yes.
2028
01:43:25,038 --> 01:43:27,415
-With actors?
- Yes.
2029
01:43:27,415 --> 01:43:29,626
-Total hoax?
- Yes.
2030
01:43:29,626 --> 01:43:34,631
You acknowledge that,
repeatedly, you mocked parents?
2031
01:43:34,631 --> 01:43:36,341
I'm-- no, not parents.
2032
01:43:36,341 --> 01:43:38,677
I said Robbie Parker
looked fake to me.
2033
01:43:38,677 --> 01:43:40,178
He carries
a presence with him.
2034
01:43:40,178 --> 01:43:42,639
There's an energy with him,
and it draws people,
2035
01:43:42,639 --> 01:43:45,475
even people who are
disgusted by him, as I am.
2036
01:43:45,475 --> 01:43:47,977
You still can't take
your eyes off of him, right?
2037
01:43:47,977 --> 01:43:49,145
You can't help but
follow him around,
2038
01:43:49,145 --> 01:43:50,271
and I hate to admit that.
2039
01:43:50,271 --> 01:43:51,815
Robbie Parker's
sitting right here.
2040
01:43:51,815 --> 01:43:55,276
And for years, you put a target
on his back, didn't you?
2041
01:43:55,276 --> 01:43:57,153
Objection to
the form of that, judge.
2042
01:43:57,153 --> 01:43:58,196
Overruled.
2043
01:43:58,196 --> 01:43:59,781
You put a target
on his back,
2044
01:43:59,781 --> 01:44:02,200
just like you did
every single parent
2045
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:03,410
and loved one sitting here,
didn't you?
2046
01:44:03,410 --> 01:44:04,744
-Objection, judge.
-No, I didn't.
2047
01:44:04,744 --> 01:44:06,454
-No, you didn't?
-That's argumentative.
2048
01:44:06,454 --> 01:44:09,416
- There's no-- It's speculative.
-Let's move on.
2049
01:44:09,416 --> 01:44:10,875
These are real people.
You know that, Mr. Jones?
2050
01:44:10,875 --> 01:44:12,836
Objection. I think
you just told him to move on.
2051
01:44:12,836 --> 01:44:16,256
Just like all the Iraqis
you liberals kill and love.
2052
01:44:17,048 --> 01:44:18,925
You're just--
you're unbelievable.
2053
01:44:18,925 --> 01:44:21,636
You switch on emotions
on and off when you want.
2054
01:44:21,636 --> 01:44:23,722
You're-- It's just
ambulance-chasing.
2055
01:44:26,808 --> 01:44:28,393
Why don't you show
a little respect, Mr. Jones?
2056
01:44:28,393 --> 01:44:29,602
Objection, judge.
2057
01:44:29,602 --> 01:44:31,730
I think you get what you give
in this courtroom.
2058
01:44:32,188 --> 01:44:33,523
Objection.
2059
01:44:33,523 --> 01:44:36,067
You have families
in this courtroom here
2060
01:44:36,067 --> 01:44:39,738
that lost children,
sisters, wives,
2061
01:44:41,698 --> 01:44:42,699
moms.
2062
01:44:43,742 --> 01:44:45,744
Is this a struggle session?
Are we in China?
2063
01:44:47,579 --> 01:44:49,289
I've already said I'm sorry
hundreds of times,
2064
01:44:49,289 --> 01:44:51,082
and I'm done saying I'm sorry.
2065
01:44:51,082 --> 01:44:52,167
I didn't progenerate this.
2066
01:44:52,167 --> 01:44:53,585
I wasn't the first person
to say it.
2067
01:44:53,585 --> 01:44:55,795
American gun owners didn't like
being blamed for this
2068
01:44:55,795 --> 01:44:58,381
as the Left did,
so we rejected it mentally
2069
01:44:58,381 --> 01:44:59,674
and said it must not be true.
2070
01:44:59,674 --> 01:45:01,760
But I legitimately thought
it might have been staged,
2071
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,428
and I stand by that,
and I don't apologize for it.
2072
01:45:03,428 --> 01:45:05,722
And don't apologize,
Mr. Jones.
2073
01:45:05,722 --> 01:45:06,681
Please, don't apologize.
2074
01:45:06,681 --> 01:45:07,932
No, I've already apologized
to the parents
2075
01:45:07,932 --> 01:45:09,559
- over and over again.
-Because we know--
2076
01:45:09,559 --> 01:45:11,144
- I don't apologize to you.
-Objection. Objection.
2077
01:45:11,144 --> 01:45:12,270
I don't apologize to you.
2078
01:45:12,270 --> 01:45:13,521
You're gonna
do it again, aren't you?
2079
01:45:13,521 --> 01:45:15,190
-Objection, Judge.
-Aren't you?
2080
01:45:15,190 --> 01:45:16,399
- No, I'm not.
-You're not?
2081
01:45:16,399 --> 01:45:17,817
Objection. Objection.
Argumentative.
2082
01:45:17,817 --> 01:45:18,902
I don't apologize to you.
2083
01:45:20,862 --> 01:45:23,323
This is your homepage, right?
Infowars.com?
2084
01:45:23,323 --> 01:45:24,616
-Yes.
-Three weeks ago.
2085
01:45:24,616 --> 01:45:26,076
A little bit bigger, please.
2086
01:45:26,076 --> 01:45:27,535
Just the part
with the survey there.
2087
01:45:28,203 --> 01:45:30,789
And you're asking your audience,
2088
01:45:30,789 --> 01:45:34,959
"What will be the most likely
deep state false flag
2089
01:45:34,959 --> 01:45:37,587
- ahead of the midterms," right?
-Yes.
2090
01:45:37,587 --> 01:45:38,963
What's the first option?
2091
01:45:40,423 --> 01:45:42,092
Mass shooting,
but I didn't write the poll.
2092
01:45:42,092 --> 01:45:43,468
Excuse me, sir.
Mass shooting?
2093
01:45:43,468 --> 01:45:44,552
Yes.
2094
01:45:44,552 --> 01:45:47,305
And you're inviting
your audience, even now,
2095
01:45:47,305 --> 01:45:51,309
even after all this, to suspect
2096
01:45:51,309 --> 01:45:54,354
that the next people,
the next Robbie Parker,
2097
01:45:54,354 --> 01:45:56,481
the next family are actors, too.
2098
01:45:56,481 --> 01:45:58,316
-Objection,
argumentative.
- No.
2099
01:45:58,316 --> 01:46:00,151
-Overruled.
- I'm done, Your Honor.
2100
01:46:02,487 --> 01:46:04,489
What I ultimately wanted to do
2101
01:46:05,323 --> 01:46:07,826
was to get the jury to see
2102
01:46:07,826 --> 01:46:12,789
just how dangerous this man
is likely to be in the future.
2103
01:46:15,166 --> 01:46:16,876
This is gonna happen again,
2104
01:46:16,876 --> 01:46:18,962
and he knows
what he's gonna say.
2105
01:46:22,257 --> 01:46:24,551
You know, what you want
is the truth
2106
01:46:24,551 --> 01:46:27,679
of, like, the rottenness
at his core to be revealed.
2107
01:46:27,679 --> 01:46:29,848
Uh, you get a lot of that
through the videos,
2108
01:46:29,848 --> 01:46:33,810
but until you see him
in court do his thing,
2109
01:46:34,853 --> 01:46:35,895
it's different.
2110
01:46:37,605 --> 01:46:40,025
You got parents laughing,
going "Ha ha ha! Watch this!"
2111
01:46:40,025 --> 01:46:41,276
and then going...
2112
01:46:41,276 --> 01:46:43,611
Method acting, going...
2113
01:46:43,611 --> 01:46:46,489
"Oh, my child!"
2114
01:46:46,489 --> 01:46:48,700
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
2115
01:46:48,700 --> 01:46:50,368
Is that what you did,
Mr. Parker?
2116
01:46:50,368 --> 01:46:52,120
The fake crying,
the method acting?
2117
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:53,288
No.
2118
01:46:53,288 --> 01:46:54,706
This is a few
months later.
2119
01:46:54,706 --> 01:46:57,625
And then you've got parents
laughing, going, "Ha ha ha,"
2120
01:46:57,625 --> 01:46:59,377
and then they walk over
to the camera and go...
2121
01:47:01,671 --> 01:47:03,631
That was September 2014.
2122
01:47:03,631 --> 01:47:06,092
Mr. Parker,
your family's still deluged
2123
01:47:06,092 --> 01:47:07,677
with the threats and harassment?
2124
01:47:08,553 --> 01:47:10,096
They would come in these waves.
2125
01:47:10,096 --> 01:47:13,308
And it was almost like I knew
when Alex Jones said something,
2126
01:47:13,308 --> 01:47:17,395
because we would get a huge
wave of stuff,
2127
01:47:17,395 --> 01:47:19,814
more and more and more attacks.
2128
01:47:19,814 --> 01:47:23,443
I started to hate
that-- that video.
2129
01:47:23,443 --> 01:47:25,862
That video, you mean
the video of yourself?
2130
01:47:25,862 --> 01:47:26,905
Exactly.
2131
01:47:26,905 --> 01:47:30,533
Exhibit 20A,
December 27th, 2014.
2132
01:47:30,533 --> 01:47:33,453
And then the parents laughing,
and then one second later,
2133
01:47:33,453 --> 01:47:35,538
doing the actor breathing
to cry.
2134
01:47:35,538 --> 01:47:38,166
I mean, it's just--
it's just over the top.
2135
01:47:38,166 --> 01:47:41,586
-2015 now.
-Stinks to high heaven.
2136
01:47:41,586 --> 01:47:43,630
You got the actor father
who comes out,
2137
01:47:43,630 --> 01:47:44,756
gets into character.
2138
01:47:44,756 --> 01:47:47,759
On November 18th, 2016.
2139
01:47:47,759 --> 01:47:49,219
Then we see footage
2140
01:47:49,219 --> 01:47:53,181
of one of the reported fathers
of the victims, Robbie Parker,
2141
01:47:53,181 --> 01:47:56,267
doing classic acting training,
2142
01:47:56,267 --> 01:47:59,104
where he's laughing and joking,
and they say, "Hey, we're live,"
2143
01:47:59,104 --> 01:48:00,271
and he goes, "Oh."
2144
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:05,652
I already felt like I failed
Emilie as a dad
2145
01:48:05,652 --> 01:48:06,945
when she was alive.
2146
01:48:09,447 --> 01:48:10,740
Because I...
2147
01:48:11,491 --> 01:48:12,992
because we sent her to school.
2148
01:48:14,911 --> 01:48:17,664
And I was especially starting
to feel like I was failing her
2149
01:48:18,540 --> 01:48:20,667
in her death,
2150
01:48:20,667 --> 01:48:22,836
because of what
people were saying about her.
2151
01:48:25,839 --> 01:48:29,676
And what they were saying
about me trying to remember her.
2152
01:48:31,678 --> 01:48:34,639
The most powerful thing
for me about doing that was
2153
01:48:34,639 --> 01:48:37,684
that I finally got to put
my voice out there.
2154
01:48:38,143 --> 01:48:39,144
And I got to...
2155
01:48:40,311 --> 01:48:43,690
I got to put my experience
out there
2156
01:48:43,690 --> 01:48:45,650
in a way that actually
really mattered.
2157
01:48:47,152 --> 01:48:49,446
Like, take that press conference
that I gave.
2158
01:48:49,446 --> 01:48:51,281
He had taken it from me.
2159
01:48:51,281 --> 01:48:54,492
He defiled it. He literally just
2160
01:48:54,492 --> 01:48:56,828
shit all over
one of the most important things
2161
01:48:56,828 --> 01:48:58,955
I feel like I've ever done
in my life.
2162
01:48:58,955 --> 01:49:01,166
And so to be given
an opportunity to, like,
2163
01:49:01,166 --> 01:49:04,044
take that back,
that's the most precious thing
2164
01:49:04,044 --> 01:49:05,670
I think I can take away
from this trial.
2165
01:49:05,670 --> 01:49:09,049
So, I trust that the jury
has been fantastic,
2166
01:49:09,049 --> 01:49:11,843
and they've been very attentive,
and they're gonna do
2167
01:49:12,385 --> 01:49:13,386
what they feel is best,
2168
01:49:13,386 --> 01:49:15,055
and I'm happy
with whatever that is.
2169
01:49:15,055 --> 01:49:17,557
But I've got what I need
out of this already.
2170
01:49:19,684 --> 01:49:22,187
So, ladies and gentlemen
of the jury,
2171
01:49:22,187 --> 01:49:26,524
here you are tasked with
addressing the issue of damages,
2172
01:49:26,524 --> 01:49:29,235
as the court
previously determined
2173
01:49:29,235 --> 01:49:31,154
that the defendants are liable.
2174
01:49:31,154 --> 01:49:35,241
It is for you alone to decide
on the amount of damages
2175
01:49:35,241 --> 01:49:36,785
in this case.
2176
01:49:36,785 --> 01:49:39,204
The verdict needs to reflect
2177
01:49:39,204 --> 01:49:43,917
the kind of exponential harm
that lies can now have.
2178
01:49:43,917 --> 01:49:47,712
And I don't think Alex Jones has
ever really appreciated that.
2179
01:49:47,712 --> 01:49:52,550
And people like him, and him,
need to appreciate that.
2180
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:54,094
And the only way
to make them appreciate it,
2181
01:49:54,094 --> 01:49:59,349
I think, is to hang
a big verdict around their head.
2182
01:50:03,061 --> 01:50:05,480
They're about to announce
the verdict.
2183
01:50:05,480 --> 01:50:06,648
Let's go to the audio
2184
01:50:06,648 --> 01:50:08,900
of the biggest show trial
in U.S. history.
2185
01:50:12,487 --> 01:50:14,197
The judge looks pleased.
2186
01:50:14,197 --> 01:50:17,701
Probably 200 million dollars.
2187
01:50:17,701 --> 01:50:19,953
I don't have any money,
so it's all a big joke.
2188
01:50:20,912 --> 01:50:23,748
This is their trial.
This is them on trial.
2189
01:50:23,748 --> 01:50:25,709
This is ambulance-chasing
on steroids.
2190
01:50:27,711 --> 01:50:30,380
Come on, crucify me.
Let's get it going.
2191
01:50:30,380 --> 01:50:33,758
Saveinfowars.com,
infowarsstore.com.
2192
01:50:33,758 --> 01:50:36,094
To plaintiff
Robbie Parker.
2193
01:50:36,094 --> 01:50:41,391
A, defamation slash slander
damages past and future,
2194
01:50:41,391 --> 01:50:42,851
60 million dollars.
2195
01:50:42,851 --> 01:50:45,687
- Yeah!
-B, emotional
distress damages...
2196
01:50:45,687 --> 01:50:47,439
- Whoo!
- ...past and future,
2197
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,441
60 million dollars.
2198
01:50:49,441 --> 01:50:52,110
Total fair, just,
and reasonable damages
2199
01:50:52,110 --> 01:50:56,281
to plaintiff Robert Parker
and against Alex Jones
2200
01:50:56,281 --> 01:50:59,951
and Free Speech Systems,
under line A and line B,
2201
01:50:59,951 --> 01:51:02,704
total 120 million dollars.
2202
01:51:07,834 --> 01:51:09,878
I didn't know
how to feel,
2203
01:51:09,878 --> 01:51:14,716
except for just like this
big sense of like relief.
2204
01:51:14,716 --> 01:51:16,801
And then that sense
of validation came through.
2205
01:51:16,801 --> 01:51:18,345
And then that sense of, like...
2206
01:51:20,347 --> 01:51:21,264
like you're seen,
2207
01:51:21,264 --> 01:51:25,310
and you're understood,
and you're loved, and...
2208
01:51:26,728 --> 01:51:29,314
And I-- I could feel it
from everywhere.
2209
01:51:29,314 --> 01:51:30,982
And it was really overwhelming.
2210
01:51:42,911 --> 01:51:45,121
To plaintiff David Wheeler,
2211
01:51:45,121 --> 01:51:47,040
55 million dollars.
2212
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:50,502
Yeah! Whoo!
2213
01:51:50,502 --> 01:51:52,504
To plaintiff Francine Wheeler,
2214
01:51:52,504 --> 01:51:54,798
total 54 million dollars.
2215
01:51:54,798 --> 01:51:56,841
To plaintiff Jacqueline Barden,
2216
01:51:56,841 --> 01:51:59,344
28,800,000 dollars.
2217
01:52:00,595 --> 01:52:01,971
Bravo.
2218
01:52:01,971 --> 01:52:04,432
To plaintiff Mark Barden,
2219
01:52:04,432 --> 01:52:07,852
57,600,000 dollars.
2220
01:52:07,852 --> 01:52:09,771
Nine hundred
sixty-five million
2221
01:52:09,771 --> 01:52:11,564
is what it was.
2222
01:52:11,564 --> 01:52:15,068
And, um, I just remember
thinking, like,
2223
01:52:15,068 --> 01:52:17,696
"There's no way
that Alex Jones
2224
01:52:17,696 --> 01:52:20,657
is going to be able to sell
enough supplements
2225
01:52:20,657 --> 01:52:22,033
to be able to pay that off."
2226
01:52:22,033 --> 01:52:25,203
Guess what? We're not scared,
and we're not going away.
2227
01:52:25,203 --> 01:52:28,164
So, please, go to
infowarsstore.com
2228
01:52:28,164 --> 01:52:31,668
and get Vitamin Mineral Fusion,
get X3.
2229
01:52:31,668 --> 01:52:33,420
Flood us with donations.
2230
01:52:41,678 --> 01:52:46,349
Today, a jury
representing our community
2231
01:52:46,349 --> 01:52:49,185
and our nation rendered
a historic verdict,
2232
01:52:49,185 --> 01:52:51,688
a verdict
against Alex Jones's lies
2233
01:52:51,688 --> 01:52:53,356
and their poisonous spread.
2234
01:52:54,607 --> 01:52:58,778
This jury bore witness
to Alex Jones's ten-year attack,
2235
01:52:58,778 --> 01:53:01,114
an attack that made him
very rich,
2236
01:53:01,114 --> 01:53:03,742
an attack that targeted
these families
2237
01:53:03,742 --> 01:53:07,245
with the lie
that they were frauds.
2238
01:53:07,245 --> 01:53:11,875
And all for Alex Jones's
personal profit.
2239
01:53:11,875 --> 01:53:14,461
All Alex Jones does
is take from you,
2240
01:53:14,461 --> 01:53:16,588
exploit you, lie to you,
2241
01:53:17,589 --> 01:53:18,590
feed your fears
2242
01:53:18,590 --> 01:53:20,800
and your anxieties
and your mistrust,
2243
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,802
and the only person
that benefits
2244
01:53:22,802 --> 01:53:24,679
in that equation is him.
2245
01:53:24,679 --> 01:53:27,766
Well, that stops.
That's stopping today,
2246
01:53:27,766 --> 01:53:29,809
thanks to the courage
of these families.
2247
01:53:29,809 --> 01:53:31,102
Thank you very much.
2248
01:53:41,112 --> 01:53:44,324
It's the biggest verdict
in a defamation case
2249
01:53:44,324 --> 01:53:45,909
in United States history.
2250
01:53:46,659 --> 01:53:48,119
The reason that it's so big
2251
01:53:48,119 --> 01:53:50,997
is because there has never
been technology
2252
01:53:50,997 --> 01:53:54,376
capable of spreading
a lie so fast
2253
01:53:54,376 --> 01:53:56,920
and causing so much damage
as we have now.
2254
01:53:58,296 --> 01:54:00,090
I think
a really insidious problem
2255
01:54:00,090 --> 01:54:02,676
that we're just as a society
figuring out how to deal with,
2256
01:54:02,676 --> 01:54:04,386
and these cases are one way.
2257
01:54:04,386 --> 01:54:05,970
They're not the only way,
2258
01:54:05,970 --> 01:54:08,223
but I think they're going to
end up being an important way.
2259
01:54:08,223 --> 01:54:10,183
And we have the families
to thank for that.
2260
01:54:12,977 --> 01:54:15,063
Why are people
willing to believe
2261
01:54:15,063 --> 01:54:17,232
invented, manufactured lies
2262
01:54:17,232 --> 01:54:19,150
that can be shut down
in a second,
2263
01:54:19,150 --> 01:54:22,028
that can be debunked
with the simplest of actions?
2264
01:54:22,028 --> 01:54:24,531
Why?
Why are they so thirsty for it?
2265
01:54:24,531 --> 01:54:27,492
Why are they ingesting it?
Why are they believing it?
2266
01:54:27,492 --> 01:54:31,454
That question goes far beyond
what happened in this case,
2267
01:54:31,454 --> 01:54:32,664
because I can guarantee you,
2268
01:54:32,664 --> 01:54:35,166
we can solve
the Alex Jones problem,
2269
01:54:35,166 --> 01:54:37,627
but we will not solve
the greater problem
2270
01:54:37,627 --> 01:54:40,130
that allowed Alex Jones
to flourish.
2271
01:54:40,130 --> 01:54:43,174
And Spiderman defeated
the Goblin,
2272
01:54:43,174 --> 01:54:47,721
and the Goblin fighting back
was still alive...
2273
01:54:47,721 --> 01:54:49,597
This was his backpack.
2274
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:52,642
He always had, um,
stuffed animals.
2275
01:54:55,103 --> 01:54:57,814
First grade homework packet,
2276
01:54:57,814 --> 01:55:00,025
that's what he should've
brought home that day,
2277
01:55:01,359 --> 01:55:02,402
and didn't get to.
2278
01:55:05,447 --> 01:55:10,076
This is the jacket he wore
on that fateful day.
2279
01:55:12,078 --> 01:55:16,583
It's just a... a way
to link with him.
2280
01:55:20,628 --> 01:55:23,214
Noah, he was cheated.
2281
01:55:24,924 --> 01:55:26,676
He was cheated of life.
2282
01:55:27,886 --> 01:55:29,596
And he was cheated afterwards...
2283
01:55:32,015 --> 01:55:33,558
of honoring that life...
2284
01:55:35,935 --> 01:55:38,146
by people who purported that...
2285
01:55:39,564 --> 01:55:43,026
you know, they were bringing
"the truth" to light.
2286
01:55:43,026 --> 01:55:44,527
When, in fact,
what they were doing
2287
01:55:44,527 --> 01:55:46,780
was desecrating his memory.