WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:07.000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:07.215 --> 00:00:08.925 Can you take me back to jail and shit? 3 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:09.050 --> 00:00:10.301 Trust is hard to get. 5 00:00:10.427 --> 00:00:11.469 I don't have to follow that shit. 6 00:00:11.594 --> 00:00:13.138 The declaration of independence. 7 00:00:13.263 --> 00:00:15.140 You guys are fucking pathetic. 8 00:00:15.265 --> 00:00:17.475 Ali is a rising star on TikTok 9 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:19.269 with almost a million followers. 10 00:00:19.394 --> 00:00:20.687 Yo, like, literally 11 00:00:20.812 --> 00:00:22.731 you're motherfucking beautiful for me. 12 00:00:22.856 --> 00:00:25.275 I want you to say, "Y'all know the fucking vibes." 13 00:00:25.400 --> 00:00:27.193 Y'all-- [laughing] 14 00:00:27.318 --> 00:00:29.779 Ana's one of the most beautiful people on the planet. 15 00:00:29.904 --> 00:00:32.115 The woman could be like Miss America. 16 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:33.867 [camera shutter clicking] 17 00:00:34.659 --> 00:00:36.661 Ali and Ana, they fell in love the second 18 00:00:36.786 --> 00:00:38.121 they laid eyes upon each other. 19 00:00:38.246 --> 00:00:39.956 It all seems so perfect. 20 00:00:40.081 --> 00:00:42.334 LOUIE: On TikTok all it takes is one video. 21 00:00:42.459 --> 00:00:43.793 You could wake up the next morning 22 00:00:43.918 --> 00:00:45.670 and your whole life could be changed. 23 00:00:45.795 --> 00:00:47.672 I remember coming across the video 24 00:00:47.797 --> 00:00:50.383 that had probably 2.4 million views. 25 00:00:50.508 --> 00:00:52.427 And I was like, "Oh my God, this is Ana." 26 00:00:53.386 --> 00:00:56.765 It's hard to sometimes separate that online persona 27 00:00:56.890 --> 00:00:59.517 to who you truly are in the real world. 28 00:00:59.642 --> 00:01:01.311 Me, I want what's coming. 29 00:01:02.896 --> 00:01:04.189 The world... 30 00:01:04.814 --> 00:01:06.566 and everything in it. 31 00:01:06.691 --> 00:01:08.401 And that's when things start to hit the fan. 32 00:01:08.526 --> 00:01:09.861 I'm a fucking god! 33 00:01:09.986 --> 00:01:11.529 I'm a fucking internet celebrity! 34 00:01:12.197 --> 00:01:13.907 - Give me my phone back! - Close the door! 35 00:01:14.032 --> 00:01:15.700 ANA: You're hurting my fucking finger! 36 00:01:15.825 --> 00:01:18.244 JONI: Ali actually starts recording with his phone. 37 00:01:18.370 --> 00:01:21.456 Some of the things that we would never expect him to record. 38 00:01:22.540 --> 00:01:24.209 - ALI: I can fix it. - You think that 39 00:01:24.334 --> 00:01:27.128 and then you wake up and you're mad again, so stop. 40 00:01:29.339 --> 00:01:31.424 ALI: You're my woman, bitch! 41 00:01:31.549 --> 00:01:33.051 I brought you to this goddamn country. 42 00:01:33.176 --> 00:01:34.969 You should be kissing my feet! 43 00:01:35.095 --> 00:01:36.513 The internet can be such an evil place. 44 00:01:36.638 --> 00:01:38.431 You're need people like me 45 00:01:38.556 --> 00:01:41.184 so you can point your fucking fingers. 46 00:01:41.309 --> 00:01:42.727 I say, that's the bad guy. 47 00:01:43.645 --> 00:01:46.606 All I could think about was this is not gonna end well. 48 00:01:51.277 --> 00:01:52.404 [gun cocks] 49 00:01:52.987 --> 00:01:55.156 [gunshots banging] 50 00:01:56.241 --> 00:01:58.034 REPORTER: A double homicide inside 51 00:01:58.159 --> 00:01:59.661 an East Village high rise. 52 00:02:00.286 --> 00:02:01.913 ALI: 53 00:02:04.332 --> 00:02:06.292 [dramatic music playing] 54 00:02:20.140 --> 00:02:25.270 *** 55 00:02:32.152 --> 00:02:34.320 ALI: Ana? Ana? 56 00:02:40.076 --> 00:02:42.704 [dramatic music playing] 57 00:02:45.040 --> 00:02:47.167 ANDREA: It's not surprising that TikTok is successful. 58 00:02:47.292 --> 00:02:48.835 It's really entertaining. 59 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:51.046 It's addictive and it's really quick. 60 00:02:51.171 --> 00:02:53.006 So it's, like, really satisfying to just, like, 61 00:02:53.131 --> 00:02:55.425 get these little bite-sized bits of content 62 00:02:55.550 --> 00:02:58.178 that are just so easy to consume and easy to share. 63 00:02:59.387 --> 00:03:01.222 It can track, like, what grabs your attention 64 00:03:01.348 --> 00:03:04.434 in the first second and what keeps you watching. 65 00:03:04.559 --> 00:03:06.561 [indistinct] 66 00:03:10.231 --> 00:03:12.150 Once you watch something a couple times, 67 00:03:12.275 --> 00:03:13.985 it'll just feed you more and more of that. 68 00:03:14.110 --> 00:03:16.363 The algorithm is just really good at keeping you 69 00:03:16.488 --> 00:03:18.990 on the app, keeping you scrolling. 70 00:03:19.115 --> 00:03:23.244 And by 2022, it was the most downloaded app in the world. 71 00:03:27.916 --> 00:03:29.334 My name's Andrea Marks. 72 00:03:29.459 --> 00:03:31.252 I'm a journalist and I often report 73 00:03:31.378 --> 00:03:34.005 on the intersection of social media and crime. 74 00:03:34.130 --> 00:03:36.466 What drew me to this story was that 75 00:03:36.591 --> 00:03:38.301 I like writing about crimes 76 00:03:38.426 --> 00:03:42.055 which portray this very interesting section of humanity 77 00:03:42.180 --> 00:03:44.849 and human behavior and it makes you wonder 78 00:03:44.974 --> 00:03:47.227 what would drive a person to do something like that. 79 00:03:48.103 --> 00:03:50.605 So that was initially why I covered it for Rolling Stone. 80 00:03:55.568 --> 00:03:59.030 TikTok's perfect for Ali, and Ali's perfect for TikTok. 81 00:03:59.155 --> 00:04:00.323 No! Fuck not! 82 00:04:00.448 --> 00:04:01.866 ANDREA: Ali likes to make 83 00:04:01.991 --> 00:04:04.202 this kind of short form content. 84 00:04:04.327 --> 00:04:05.787 He's doing these impressions. 85 00:04:05.912 --> 00:04:08.915 The sun is shining on my face. I'm blessed. 86 00:04:09.040 --> 00:04:10.250 ANDREA: John Wick. 87 00:04:10.375 --> 00:04:13.670 It wasn't just a dog, it was my wife. 88 00:04:13.795 --> 00:04:15.046 ANDREA: Nicholas Cage. 89 00:04:15.171 --> 00:04:17.257 Well, there's a map on the back. 90 00:04:17.382 --> 00:04:19.801 You-- you can't see it, but I can see it. 91 00:04:19.926 --> 00:04:22.762 And his most famous one, Tony Montana from Scarface. 92 00:04:22.887 --> 00:04:26.057 I told you, man. I told you. No fucking kids! 93 00:04:26.182 --> 00:04:28.351 You know, TikTok is the perfect platform for that 94 00:04:28.476 --> 00:04:31.896 because it's grabby, it's quick and he can put out a lot of it. 95 00:04:32.022 --> 00:04:33.940 Say hello to my little friend. 96 00:04:34.607 --> 00:04:36.067 [exclaims] 97 00:04:36.192 --> 00:04:38.236 But not everything on social media 98 00:04:38.361 --> 00:04:40.739 and not everything on TikTok is what it seems. 99 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:45.952 [pensive music playing] 100 00:04:59.799 --> 00:05:01.634 [exhales sharply] 101 00:05:04.971 --> 00:05:06.514 PRODUCER: You're gonna be totally fine. 102 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:12.228 *** 103 00:05:12.354 --> 00:05:14.856 Well, you guys have caused a lot of buzz 104 00:05:14.981 --> 00:05:17.817 within the friend group. [laughs] 105 00:05:20.236 --> 00:05:22.489 Honestly, it connected a lot of us. 106 00:05:22.614 --> 00:05:24.866 We were kind of mourning on our own. 107 00:05:32.832 --> 00:05:36.503 I just want Ana's side of the story to be heard. 108 00:05:36.628 --> 00:05:38.755 I personally witnessed everything 109 00:05:38.880 --> 00:05:40.840 that she was going through. 110 00:05:40.965 --> 00:05:41.925 And... 111 00:05:43.134 --> 00:05:45.053 she was just trying to keep it all together. 112 00:05:45.178 --> 00:05:51.726 *** 113 00:05:53.853 --> 00:05:56.564 My name is Louie. I'm Ali Abulaban's cousin. 114 00:05:56.690 --> 00:05:59.484 And me and Ali have been close since I was very young. 115 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:03.988 I feel that this whole situation has, 116 00:06:04.114 --> 00:06:05.907 you know, turned my life upside down 117 00:06:06.032 --> 00:06:08.493 as well as turned my family's life upside down. 118 00:06:11.121 --> 00:06:12.789 It's gonna take a very long time 119 00:06:12.914 --> 00:06:15.583 to recover from this for all of us. 120 00:06:18.712 --> 00:06:24.050 *** 121 00:06:24.175 --> 00:06:25.969 Ali comes from a Middle Eastern family 122 00:06:26.094 --> 00:06:28.138 that happens to be Muslim. 123 00:06:28.263 --> 00:06:31.516 A more religious household so it was stricter environment. 124 00:06:32.267 --> 00:06:33.768 Ali was a free spirit 125 00:06:33.893 --> 00:06:35.645 and didn't really follow religion. 126 00:06:35.770 --> 00:06:37.313 He did what he wanted to do. 127 00:06:38.481 --> 00:06:40.734 I remember watching him do all these different dances 128 00:06:40.859 --> 00:06:43.194 and singing and all different types of stuff. 129 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.406 [driving pop music plays] 130 00:06:46.531 --> 00:06:47.907 It's what he was meant to do. 131 00:06:48.033 --> 00:06:50.285 I really believe Ali was meant to be a star. 132 00:06:50.410 --> 00:06:54.956 *** 133 00:06:58.251 --> 00:07:00.628 Ali joined the Air Force when he was in his late teens, 134 00:07:00.754 --> 00:07:02.005 like 18, 19. 135 00:07:02.130 --> 00:07:03.548 I think joining the military 136 00:07:03.673 --> 00:07:05.508 was a sense of Ali wanting to, like, 137 00:07:05.633 --> 00:07:09.262 improve himself, you know, physically, mentally. 138 00:07:09.387 --> 00:07:11.056 I think he wanted to serve his country. 139 00:07:11.181 --> 00:07:14.976 Ali was stationed in Okinawa, Japan. 140 00:07:15.101 --> 00:07:16.811 A lot of people in the military actually 141 00:07:16.936 --> 00:07:19.939 get stationed in Okinawa for two to three years. 142 00:07:21.608 --> 00:07:25.195 KAYLA: Okinawa is a huge American military base. 143 00:07:25.320 --> 00:07:27.864 It's hot, it's tropical, 144 00:07:27.989 --> 00:07:30.075 it's beautiful, it's fun. 145 00:07:30.200 --> 00:07:32.577 When you're on this island together, 146 00:07:32.702 --> 00:07:35.747 you create these friendships that just never go away. 147 00:07:38.625 --> 00:07:42.921 *** 148 00:07:44.923 --> 00:07:47.759 Ana and I grew up together in Okinawa. 149 00:07:47.884 --> 00:07:50.136 She's from the Philippines 150 00:07:50.261 --> 00:07:53.223 and her dad was stationed in Okinawa. 151 00:07:53.348 --> 00:07:55.266 We were best friends 152 00:07:55.392 --> 00:07:57.477 and we had a very tight-knit friend group. 153 00:07:57.602 --> 00:08:00.438 And Ana was one of the more, like, caring, 154 00:08:00.563 --> 00:08:03.400 loving, happy individual. 155 00:08:03.525 --> 00:08:05.193 That's what drew me to her. 156 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:08.905 I don't think my life would personally be the same 157 00:08:09.030 --> 00:08:10.740 if she was never my friend. 158 00:08:10.865 --> 00:08:13.284 And so I'm very thankful for the friendship 159 00:08:13.410 --> 00:08:15.662 that her and I had shared together. 160 00:08:17.247 --> 00:08:22.043 *** 161 00:08:22.168 --> 00:08:25.171 JULIA: Ali and Ana met in 2014. 162 00:08:25.296 --> 00:08:27.799 She was attracted to his big personality. 163 00:08:27.924 --> 00:08:30.343 And he was a singer in a band 164 00:08:30.468 --> 00:08:32.887 and she found that very attractive as well. 165 00:08:34.472 --> 00:08:37.851 I think she saw someone that was successful, 166 00:08:37.976 --> 00:08:40.020 that had a good head on his shoulders. 167 00:08:40.145 --> 00:08:42.230 He had a good ranking in the military. 168 00:08:42.355 --> 00:08:45.567 And they had a lot of laughter and love. 169 00:08:46.359 --> 00:08:48.611 JULIA: At first, I did feel that 170 00:08:48.737 --> 00:08:50.739 she was very happy and they were happy together. 171 00:08:51.823 --> 00:08:55.535 But then Ali got in trouble with the military. 172 00:08:55.660 --> 00:08:58.788 He had gotten drunk and gotten into a fight 173 00:08:58.913 --> 00:09:02.751 with one of Ana's friends and allegedly assaulted them. 174 00:09:05.086 --> 00:09:07.797 Ali does have a very strong personality. 175 00:09:07.922 --> 00:09:10.383 He definitely is jealous. 176 00:09:10.508 --> 00:09:14.304 Every time anyone would comment on Ana's looks 177 00:09:14.429 --> 00:09:17.849 or how lucky of a guy he was to have somebody like Ana, 178 00:09:17.974 --> 00:09:20.101 he would be very bothered. 179 00:09:20.769 --> 00:09:22.604 I let her know my concerns. 180 00:09:22.729 --> 00:09:25.607 I told her I feel like he's a little bit controlling 181 00:09:25.732 --> 00:09:29.861 and she explained to me that, "He is but I love him. 182 00:09:29.986 --> 00:09:31.613 You have nothing to worry about." 183 00:09:32.864 --> 00:09:35.992 But I just remember feeling uneasy around him. 184 00:09:36.117 --> 00:09:38.411 [tense music playing] 185 00:09:38.536 --> 00:09:40.288 When Ali got in a fight, 186 00:09:40.413 --> 00:09:44.626 what he had done was so extreme it got him discharged. 187 00:09:49.255 --> 00:09:52.926 Once you've disrespected the island and the rules, 188 00:09:53.051 --> 00:09:55.011 they will kick you off the island. 189 00:09:58.390 --> 00:10:00.558 LOUIE: Ali moves back to Virginia 190 00:10:00.684 --> 00:10:02.519 and his parents were not happy. 191 00:10:02.644 --> 00:10:03.812 They really wanted their son 192 00:10:03.937 --> 00:10:05.772 to be successful in the Air Force. 193 00:10:05.897 --> 00:10:07.732 They wanted their son to be successful 194 00:10:07.857 --> 00:10:09.734 in everything that he would do. 195 00:10:12.237 --> 00:10:15.490 JULIA: At the same time, Ana's family was leaving Okinawa 196 00:10:15.615 --> 00:10:17.701 and they were moving back to the Philippines. 197 00:10:19.869 --> 00:10:21.287 [emotional music playing] 198 00:10:21.413 --> 00:10:23.331 I'm Rachel and... 199 00:10:23.456 --> 00:10:25.417 Ana is not only 200 00:10:25.542 --> 00:10:28.169 just a best friend but family. 201 00:10:28.294 --> 00:10:31.047 Where we came from, we only had each other. 202 00:10:32.257 --> 00:10:34.509 When Ana moved back to the Philippines, 203 00:10:34.634 --> 00:10:36.428 we lived about 204 00:10:36.553 --> 00:10:39.180 20 minutes away from each other. 205 00:10:40.265 --> 00:10:42.809 Ana was living at home with her family 206 00:10:42.934 --> 00:10:45.186 and at that point she found out 207 00:10:45.311 --> 00:10:47.981 that she was pregnant with Ali's child. 208 00:10:49.315 --> 00:10:52.819 She was excited and nervous, but more excited than anything. 209 00:10:53.361 --> 00:10:55.989 So, in this time, 210 00:10:56.114 --> 00:10:58.908 Ali wanted to apply for a visa for Ana. 211 00:11:00.994 --> 00:11:04.122 RACHEL: While doing that, Ana waited in the Philippines. 212 00:11:04.247 --> 00:11:06.166 And eight months later, 213 00:11:06.291 --> 00:11:08.960 their baby girl, Amira, was born. 214 00:11:12.047 --> 00:11:14.174 It takes time before you get 215 00:11:14.299 --> 00:11:16.343 marriage visa in the Philippines. 216 00:11:16.468 --> 00:11:21.014 So, by the time Amira was nine months... 217 00:11:21.931 --> 00:11:25.101 he finally was able to bring Ana to Virginia. 218 00:11:25.226 --> 00:11:27.937 [muffled announcements] 219 00:11:28.063 --> 00:11:30.357 - Hi, baby. - Hi baby. 220 00:11:30.482 --> 00:11:32.776 Oh, she's so cute. 221 00:11:32.901 --> 00:11:36.905 [percussive music playing] 222 00:11:39.199 --> 00:11:42.327 Ali and Ana decided to go to Northern Virginia 223 00:11:42.452 --> 00:11:45.080 because Ali's entire family is there. 224 00:11:46.373 --> 00:11:49.292 KAYLA: Ana liked Virginia, she loved Ali's family. 225 00:11:49.417 --> 00:11:50.877 They didn't have a wedding, 226 00:11:51.002 --> 00:11:52.170 they just went to the courthouse. 227 00:11:53.213 --> 00:11:56.299 Ali and Ana get their own home and they started their family. 228 00:11:56.841 --> 00:11:58.635 Ana was a beautiful woman 229 00:11:58.760 --> 00:12:01.054 and she was also creative just like Ali. 230 00:12:01.179 --> 00:12:03.807 And I just saw like a match made in heaven. 231 00:12:07.310 --> 00:12:10.355 [whimsical music playing] 232 00:12:12.190 --> 00:12:14.401 - Hey, what's up guys? - Yo, what's good, Jinn? 233 00:12:14.526 --> 00:12:17.445 In Virginia, Ali starts to produce content 234 00:12:17.570 --> 00:12:20.907 on a lot of platforms like YouTube and Instagram 235 00:12:21.032 --> 00:12:23.493 and he goes by the online handle JinnKid. 236 00:12:25.370 --> 00:12:27.831 Hey, Jinn, why the fuck you been? 237 00:12:27.956 --> 00:12:29.582 I've been working, man. 238 00:12:29.708 --> 00:12:31.418 These bills aren't gonna pay themselves. 239 00:12:31.543 --> 00:12:33.586 LOUIE: Ali created this persona of JinnKid. 240 00:12:33.712 --> 00:12:37.007 JinnKid was an escape from Ali Abulaban 241 00:12:37.132 --> 00:12:38.591 being an actual human. 242 00:12:39.551 --> 00:12:43.054 He wanted to be this different entity that was super famous. 243 00:12:43.179 --> 00:12:45.056 - [lights buzzing] - Oh, shit. 244 00:12:45.807 --> 00:12:48.393 Goddammit. I just paid the light bill. 245 00:12:49.102 --> 00:12:50.395 Hey, Jinn. 246 00:12:51.021 --> 00:12:52.772 Maybe it's a power outage, you know? 247 00:12:52.897 --> 00:12:54.232 What don't you check outside the windows. 248 00:12:54.357 --> 00:12:56.860 [eerie music playing] 249 00:12:58.445 --> 00:13:01.281 LOUIE: The word Jinn, pretty much means a ghost 250 00:13:01.406 --> 00:13:04.117 or like a soul or like an entity we cannot see. 251 00:13:04.242 --> 00:13:06.453 And he felt that it was like a unique word 252 00:13:06.578 --> 00:13:09.330 to attach to Kid and it stuck with him 253 00:13:09.456 --> 00:13:11.875 and he pretty much wanted everybody to call him JinnKid, 254 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:13.501 including his own family. 255 00:13:15.462 --> 00:13:18.882 Later on, Ali started making TikTok videos. 256 00:13:22.635 --> 00:13:23.803 No! Fuck no! 257 00:13:23.928 --> 00:13:26.389 Ali loved making TikTok videos 258 00:13:26.514 --> 00:13:28.683 'cause that was pretty much like the new YouTube. 259 00:13:28.808 --> 00:13:31.478 It was like his new platform to start a new fan base. 260 00:13:31.603 --> 00:13:33.813 - [exclaiming in other language] - Ah! 261 00:13:33.938 --> 00:13:36.983 Success on TikTok is a numbers game 262 00:13:37.108 --> 00:13:39.235 and Ali becomes obsessed with it. 263 00:13:39.361 --> 00:13:41.029 Listen to me, okay. 264 00:13:41.154 --> 00:13:43.948 I gotta make that film one day, one way or another. 265 00:13:44.074 --> 00:13:45.450 ANDREA: It's his path to fame. 266 00:13:45.575 --> 00:13:47.827 And ultimately that path reveals 267 00:13:47.952 --> 00:13:50.121 the dark underbelly of social media. Well, 268 00:13:50.246 --> 00:13:52.707 I've got news for you, assholes. 269 00:13:53.124 --> 00:13:55.210 You're all bad people. 270 00:14:00.465 --> 00:14:02.050 - ALI: Hey, babe. - ANA: Mm-hmm. 271 00:14:02.967 --> 00:14:04.803 I want you to try to do the six nine impression. 272 00:14:05.387 --> 00:14:06.638 - Alright. - Okay. 273 00:14:06.763 --> 00:14:08.306 So I'll do it first. All right? 274 00:14:08.431 --> 00:14:10.517 - All right. - Yo, like, literally 275 00:14:10.642 --> 00:14:12.477 you're motherfucking beautiful for me. 276 00:14:12.602 --> 00:14:15.146 I want you to say, "Y'all know the fucking vibes." 277 00:14:15.689 --> 00:14:17.315 Y'all-- [laughs] 278 00:14:17.941 --> 00:14:20.068 When they first moved to Virginia, 279 00:14:20.193 --> 00:14:22.153 she was happy, she was in love. 280 00:14:22.278 --> 00:14:23.655 Wait, let's try the Scarface one. 281 00:14:23.780 --> 00:14:25.657 Okay. I fucking love you, babe. 282 00:14:25.782 --> 00:14:27.575 I want you to be the love of my life. 283 00:14:27.701 --> 00:14:29.911 - Okay. How do I do the face? - I want you-- 284 00:14:30.036 --> 00:14:32.080 Like this. Like you smell something nasty. 285 00:14:32.205 --> 00:14:34.249 [both laughing] 286 00:14:34.916 --> 00:14:38.336 KELSEY: Ali in the videos can be charming. 287 00:14:38.461 --> 00:14:40.046 As Ana's filming him, 288 00:14:40.171 --> 00:14:41.965 you can actually hear her giggle. 289 00:14:42.507 --> 00:14:44.801 I'm trying to save the world. 290 00:14:44.926 --> 00:14:46.594 What are you doing? 291 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:48.179 [Ana laughing] 292 00:14:49.139 --> 00:14:50.432 KELSEY: Ali describes it 293 00:14:50.557 --> 00:14:53.351 as they're living the American dream. 294 00:14:54.394 --> 00:14:56.021 So you're looking at these videos 295 00:14:56.146 --> 00:14:59.733 prior to this case thinking what happened? 296 00:15:02.277 --> 00:15:05.530 [thrilling music playing] 297 00:15:06.072 --> 00:15:07.574 I'm Lucifer. 298 00:15:08.700 --> 00:15:10.910 Lucifer is my online name because not everybody 299 00:15:11.036 --> 00:15:13.204 is comfortable using the real names. 300 00:15:16.666 --> 00:15:19.044 I just wanna keep my online social media platform 301 00:15:19.169 --> 00:15:20.837 private from my personal life. 302 00:15:22.088 --> 00:15:23.923 It's good to remain anonymous because you don't want people 303 00:15:24.049 --> 00:15:25.300 trying to track you. 304 00:15:27.719 --> 00:15:30.555 The very first day I met Ali, it was 2019. 305 00:15:33.558 --> 00:15:35.226 LUCIFER: He was doing Skyrim videos. 306 00:15:37.645 --> 00:15:40.148 Skyrim is a medieval role-playing game. 307 00:15:40.273 --> 00:15:42.525 Stuck here. Stuck. 308 00:15:48.031 --> 00:15:49.282 Ali was playing characters 309 00:15:49.407 --> 00:15:50.742 he used to interact with in the game. 310 00:15:53.328 --> 00:15:56.831 I see there's potential in Ali. There's lots of talent in there. 311 00:15:57.916 --> 00:16:00.043 So, I just decided to message him and tell him like, 312 00:16:00.168 --> 00:16:03.213 "Hey, let me help you out. I can help you grow." 313 00:16:03.338 --> 00:16:05.340 So I became his social media manager. 314 00:16:05.465 --> 00:16:07.967 I would help him out with things like Discord, 315 00:16:08.093 --> 00:16:10.679 Twitch, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, 316 00:16:10.804 --> 00:16:12.514 and all kinds of other platforms. 317 00:16:13.473 --> 00:16:16.267 ANDREA: Ali wants to grow his brand so he gets help. 318 00:16:16.393 --> 00:16:18.061 Content creators often have a person 319 00:16:18.186 --> 00:16:20.689 or a team of people who help manage their content 320 00:16:20.814 --> 00:16:22.565 and decide when and where to post it. 321 00:16:23.441 --> 00:16:25.819 LUCIFER: We would talk to each other on a daily basis 322 00:16:25.944 --> 00:16:28.154 and we actually became really close friends. 323 00:16:34.160 --> 00:16:36.287 Ana played a role in some of these videos 324 00:16:36.413 --> 00:16:37.539 that Ali posted on TikTok. 325 00:16:37.664 --> 00:16:39.332 Sometimes Ana's in the video, 326 00:16:39.457 --> 00:16:41.292 sometimes she's filming the videos... 327 00:16:49.259 --> 00:16:51.052 ...and fans like to see them. 328 00:16:51.177 --> 00:16:53.346 They like to see Ana in the video as well. 329 00:16:56.516 --> 00:16:59.185 LOUIE: Ana was in pretty much any Skyrim video 330 00:16:59.310 --> 00:17:00.895 where there was a hand. 331 00:17:01.021 --> 00:17:02.772 Like the hand that follows Ali in the videos, 332 00:17:02.897 --> 00:17:04.232 Ana was the hand. 333 00:17:04.858 --> 00:17:06.317 [grunting] 334 00:17:10.822 --> 00:17:12.657 A lot of times I would call her, 335 00:17:12.782 --> 00:17:14.409 she would tell me that she had to go 336 00:17:14.534 --> 00:17:17.412 because she had to film a short skit for Ali 337 00:17:17.537 --> 00:17:18.788 so they could post it online. 338 00:17:20.290 --> 00:17:21.875 On TikTok, as a creator, 339 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:24.044 your only goal is to get what you wanna make 340 00:17:24.169 --> 00:17:27.213 in front of as many people as possible. 341 00:17:27.339 --> 00:17:28.965 The more people see what you do, 342 00:17:29.090 --> 00:17:30.675 the more people follow you. 343 00:17:30.800 --> 00:17:32.510 It's like the views compound on each other. 344 00:17:34.596 --> 00:17:37.265 Everyone has a chance at virality. 345 00:17:37.390 --> 00:17:38.933 All it takes is one video. 346 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:46.816 [glass shattering] 347 00:17:46.941 --> 00:17:48.485 ANDREA: So that's what happens for Ali. 348 00:17:49.861 --> 00:17:54.032 He's making TikTok's about the video game Skyrim 349 00:17:54.157 --> 00:17:55.784 and one of them takes off. 350 00:17:55.909 --> 00:18:00.205 *** 351 00:18:05.919 --> 00:18:10.006 I was on online one day and I saw this... 352 00:18:10.131 --> 00:18:12.717 video that was reposted by some of my friends. 353 00:18:13.510 --> 00:18:14.719 [knocks on door] 354 00:18:17.972 --> 00:18:21.267 KELSEY: And I realized that it was Ali on the video. 355 00:18:27.148 --> 00:18:28.775 People really love it. 356 00:18:28.900 --> 00:18:31.027 He even got shout outs from Jenna Marbles 357 00:18:31.152 --> 00:18:32.987 and some other folks who are high up 358 00:18:33.113 --> 00:18:34.989 - in the social media world. - [laughs] 359 00:18:35.115 --> 00:18:37.117 Jenna Marbles is a longtime YouTuber 360 00:18:37.242 --> 00:18:39.744 and an established talent on social media. 361 00:18:41.204 --> 00:18:43.039 That's the part that kills me. 362 00:18:43.164 --> 00:18:46.668 So for Ali to be getting attention from her is huge. 363 00:18:46.793 --> 00:18:48.545 It makes me laugh so hard. 364 00:18:48.670 --> 00:18:49.963 This guy has a whole YouTube channel. 365 00:18:50.088 --> 00:18:52.007 - Is that the name of it? - JinnKid, yes. 366 00:18:53.967 --> 00:18:56.219 LUCIFER: Ali just kept posting more and more and more. 367 00:18:56.344 --> 00:18:57.637 Each video gains more views, 368 00:18:57.762 --> 00:18:59.681 more followers from that, more likes. 369 00:18:59.806 --> 00:19:01.349 He made little skits outside of Skyrim 370 00:19:01.474 --> 00:19:03.977 and he gained a lot of popularity from that too. 371 00:19:04.602 --> 00:19:06.021 Yo, am I my bad too? 372 00:19:06.146 --> 00:19:07.564 The worst. 373 00:19:07.689 --> 00:19:08.857 You right. You right. 374 00:19:08.982 --> 00:19:10.567 Ese... 375 00:19:10.692 --> 00:19:12.527 Shut the fuck up. Okay? 376 00:19:13.445 --> 00:19:15.530 To come in my house to tell us what we do, 377 00:19:15.655 --> 00:19:17.115 what to think, what to feel. 378 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:19.993 Ali's favorite movie was definitely Scarface. 379 00:19:22.245 --> 00:19:24.873 He was obsessed with Tony Montana. 380 00:19:24.998 --> 00:19:27.083 He really loved impersonating that character. 381 00:19:27.208 --> 00:19:31.004 He liked how dramatic Tony Montana is 382 00:19:31.129 --> 00:19:32.881 and the way that he portrays himself. 383 00:19:33.006 --> 00:19:35.300 So say goodnight to the bad guy. 384 00:19:35.425 --> 00:19:37.594 So say goodnight to the bad guy. 385 00:19:38.386 --> 00:19:40.680 All right, Joni, take one, marker. 386 00:19:41.222 --> 00:19:42.682 I'm Dr. Joni Johnston, 387 00:19:42.807 --> 00:19:44.184 a clinical and forensic psychologist 388 00:19:44.309 --> 00:19:45.769 and private investigator. 389 00:19:45.894 --> 00:19:47.687 It seems like Ali especially likes 390 00:19:47.812 --> 00:19:49.564 these kind of violent characters. 391 00:19:49.689 --> 00:19:51.566 I got the money, I gotta cash up it to you. 392 00:19:51.691 --> 00:19:53.443 - You'll cash up-- - I gotta cash up it. 393 00:19:53.568 --> 00:19:55.278 What the fuck you think-- Get the fuck off! 394 00:19:55.737 --> 00:19:57.405 It's like they're so exaggerated 395 00:19:57.530 --> 00:19:59.908 and he's throwing these kind of temper tantrums 396 00:20:00.033 --> 00:20:01.868 over these very minor things. 397 00:20:01.993 --> 00:20:03.536 - [phone rings] - Oh, it's my brother. 398 00:20:03.661 --> 00:20:05.121 How's it going, bro? Nice to meet you. 399 00:20:05.246 --> 00:20:07.457 ALI: If you put one finger on her, 400 00:20:07.582 --> 00:20:09.250 I'm gonna come to your [bleep] house. 401 00:20:09.376 --> 00:20:12.045 I know your whole family. I know your neighbors. 402 00:20:12.170 --> 00:20:14.214 I know your neighbor's neighbors. 403 00:20:14.339 --> 00:20:16.216 And, you know, it's funny, it's humorous. 404 00:20:16.341 --> 00:20:17.842 I'm sure people look at that and kinda go, 405 00:20:17.967 --> 00:20:19.886 how ridiculous at the time. 406 00:20:20.011 --> 00:20:22.972 Of course, now looking back it has a different meaning 407 00:20:23.098 --> 00:20:25.141 because we know the outcome of this story. 408 00:20:25.892 --> 00:20:27.477 Do you see that woman over there? 409 00:20:27.602 --> 00:20:29.771 [dramatic music plays] 410 00:20:30.355 --> 00:20:31.564 Oh, yeah. 411 00:20:32.482 --> 00:20:33.775 Beautiful, isn't she? 412 00:20:36.444 --> 00:20:38.071 KAYLA: It was kind of fast. 413 00:20:38.196 --> 00:20:40.073 I remember coming across a video 414 00:20:40.198 --> 00:20:42.784 that had probably 2.4 million views 415 00:20:42.909 --> 00:20:45.412 and I was like, "Oh my God, this is Ana." 416 00:20:46.830 --> 00:20:50.250 So Ali is on this crazy ascent 417 00:20:50.375 --> 00:20:52.794 on social media and his life is changing. 418 00:20:53.378 --> 00:20:56.047 RACHEL: And that was the time 419 00:20:56.172 --> 00:20:59.426 where Ana slowly started 420 00:20:59.551 --> 00:21:01.636 to disappear from people's lives. 421 00:21:01.761 --> 00:21:07.100 *** 422 00:21:07.225 --> 00:21:09.853 [thrilling music playing] 423 00:21:12.313 --> 00:21:15.650 My name is Rain and I'm an online friend to Ali. 424 00:21:15.775 --> 00:21:18.153 The first time that I saw Ali 425 00:21:18.278 --> 00:21:19.612 was back in 2019. 426 00:21:19.738 --> 00:21:21.364 There was something about his eyes. 427 00:21:21.489 --> 00:21:23.700 I could tell that he had some type of story to tell. 428 00:21:23.825 --> 00:21:25.160 It was like a connection. 429 00:21:26.244 --> 00:21:30.081 We have a group chat together and we talk nearly every day. 430 00:21:34.294 --> 00:21:37.714 We would talk about his streams and his videos 431 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:40.717 and I helped him get verified on Instagram. 432 00:21:43.094 --> 00:21:45.430 Getting verified on Instagram means simply, 433 00:21:45.555 --> 00:21:47.098 you are who you say you are. 434 00:21:47.223 --> 00:21:49.476 Tends to be a sign of notoriety 435 00:21:49.601 --> 00:21:52.812 because it implies that someone would be impersonating you. 436 00:21:52.937 --> 00:21:55.690 WOMAN: Oh, congratulations. 437 00:21:55.815 --> 00:21:57.400 LUCIFER: When Ali got verified on Instagram, 438 00:21:57.525 --> 00:21:59.944 that was literally one of the best days for him ever. 439 00:22:00.070 --> 00:22:02.614 [all cheering] 440 00:22:02.739 --> 00:22:04.240 For social media influencers, 441 00:22:04.366 --> 00:22:06.451 there are these objective measures 442 00:22:06.576 --> 00:22:09.037 of how popular you are. 443 00:22:09.162 --> 00:22:11.414 You know, you get recognition, you get certain markers, 444 00:22:11.539 --> 00:22:12.874 you get blue checks, 445 00:22:12.999 --> 00:22:14.751 and that can be very, very seductive. 446 00:22:14.876 --> 00:22:16.336 Who they think I are? 447 00:22:16.461 --> 00:22:18.088 [uplifting music playing] 448 00:22:18.213 --> 00:22:21.007 KAYLA: Once you're on this platform 449 00:22:21.132 --> 00:22:24.052 and you're seeing your followers grow 450 00:22:24.177 --> 00:22:25.887 and you're seeing there's more comments, 451 00:22:26.012 --> 00:22:29.140 that's all triggering a positive, like, "ding." 452 00:22:29.265 --> 00:22:31.685 Oh, another follower, another follower, another follower. 453 00:22:31.810 --> 00:22:35.730 It sparks this obsession at times 454 00:22:35.855 --> 00:22:37.565 where you don't wanna lose that 455 00:22:37.691 --> 00:22:39.943 so you have to keep going or you'll lose followers. 456 00:22:41.361 --> 00:22:43.863 *** 457 00:22:43.988 --> 00:22:45.615 LUCIFER: He went from 700,000 followers 458 00:22:45.740 --> 00:22:48.785 to around 2 million followers, which is pretty amazing. 459 00:22:50.161 --> 00:22:52.330 That's a huge increase in people 460 00:22:52.455 --> 00:22:53.665 looking at his content. 461 00:22:53.790 --> 00:22:55.834 That can include companies 462 00:22:55.959 --> 00:22:58.211 who might hire him for brand partnerships. 463 00:23:01.673 --> 00:23:03.174 Hey Jinn, where'd you get this? 464 00:23:03.299 --> 00:23:05.719 - I wanna get me one. - Yeah, but that's my new 465 00:23:05.844 --> 00:23:07.846 Manscaped Lawn Mower 4.0, all right? 466 00:23:07.971 --> 00:23:09.514 What are you talking? Lawn Mower. 467 00:23:09.639 --> 00:23:12.892 Brands want more exposure on these social platforms. 468 00:23:13.018 --> 00:23:16.104 When a creator is getting a lot of attention, 469 00:23:16.229 --> 00:23:18.440 a company might see that as an opportunity 470 00:23:18.565 --> 00:23:21.651 to get their product in front of more users 471 00:23:21.776 --> 00:23:23.028 on that platform. 472 00:23:25.572 --> 00:23:27.949 You actually can make money from social media. 473 00:23:28.950 --> 00:23:31.244 Lots of influencers, they are millionaires. 474 00:23:31.369 --> 00:23:33.705 That's why a lot of people are going towards 475 00:23:33.830 --> 00:23:35.832 content creation in this generation. 476 00:23:35.957 --> 00:23:38.543 [brooding music playing] 477 00:23:40.545 --> 00:23:44.674 But when you get that little taste of fame, 478 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:47.510 it alters your... 479 00:23:47.635 --> 00:23:49.471 viewpoint of reality. 480 00:23:50.221 --> 00:23:51.681 Me, I want what's coming to me. 481 00:23:51.806 --> 00:23:53.558 What's coming to you, Tony? 482 00:23:55.977 --> 00:23:57.395 The world, Chico. 483 00:23:57.520 --> 00:23:59.105 And everything in it. 484 00:24:11.451 --> 00:24:14.829 Through Ali, Ana got a lot of her followers as well. 485 00:24:16.623 --> 00:24:18.041 She liked to post. 486 00:24:18.166 --> 00:24:19.668 [camera shutter clicking] 487 00:24:20.919 --> 00:24:23.505 [laughs] Oh, my God, I wish I looked like that. 488 00:24:23.630 --> 00:24:26.174 That's a picture of yourself from like two days ago. 489 00:24:26.299 --> 00:24:27.842 Yeah, back when I was pretty. 490 00:24:28.677 --> 00:24:30.929 But it wasn't something she was doing 491 00:24:31.054 --> 00:24:33.973 for followers or for the money. 492 00:24:34.099 --> 00:24:36.601 That mattered more to Ali than Ana. 493 00:24:36.726 --> 00:24:39.854 ["Jet Black" by Hunnit playing] 494 00:24:39.979 --> 00:24:43.566 RACHEL: Ana growing up was very insecure about herself. 495 00:24:43.692 --> 00:24:45.777 She was a nerdy girl, 496 00:24:45.902 --> 00:24:48.321 skinny who played video games. 497 00:24:50.281 --> 00:24:52.158 JULIA: She definitely did change. 498 00:24:52.283 --> 00:24:55.161 She went from, like, Philippines to America. 499 00:24:57.914 --> 00:24:59.374 Started dressing differently. 500 00:24:59.499 --> 00:25:01.876 She started going to the gym and working out. 501 00:25:02.002 --> 00:25:07.173 *** 502 00:25:07.298 --> 00:25:09.634 KAYLA: She just loved looking nice 503 00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:11.219 and her family looking the same. 504 00:25:11.886 --> 00:25:13.722 She was an amazing mother. 505 00:25:13.847 --> 00:25:16.391 She adored her daughter more than anything in the world. 506 00:25:16.516 --> 00:25:20.061 She loved dressing her up in cute little outfits 507 00:25:20.186 --> 00:25:22.731 that kinda matched hers and they would go around 508 00:25:22.856 --> 00:25:24.733 and take pictures everywhere. 509 00:25:24.858 --> 00:25:28.737 * Now don't come around like it ain't shit * 510 00:25:28.862 --> 00:25:32.157 * I gave you my time but you played with it * 511 00:25:32.282 --> 00:25:34.951 They would make little cute TikTok's together. 512 00:25:35.910 --> 00:25:38.204 * Roll up with a baddie in a Rolls Royce * 513 00:25:38.329 --> 00:25:39.831 * Headed to the top * 514 00:25:39.956 --> 00:25:41.958 JULIA: I was living in San Diego 515 00:25:42.083 --> 00:25:43.877 and Ana was in Virginia. 516 00:25:45.253 --> 00:25:47.047 It was COVID during the time 517 00:25:47.172 --> 00:25:49.007 and we were bored out of our minds. 518 00:25:49.132 --> 00:25:50.884 So we were either making TikTok's 519 00:25:51.009 --> 00:25:53.178 or we are playing video games online. 520 00:25:54.679 --> 00:25:57.432 Ana did say that she was feeling alone 521 00:25:57.557 --> 00:25:58.516 in Virginia. 522 00:25:59.726 --> 00:26:01.436 She was just raising Amira 523 00:26:01.561 --> 00:26:04.939 and her life revolved around Ali and his family. 524 00:26:05.065 --> 00:26:08.318 She told me she felt like she had nobody else there 525 00:26:08.443 --> 00:26:09.903 that was there for her. 526 00:26:10.028 --> 00:26:11.613 [brooding music playing] 527 00:26:11.738 --> 00:26:14.657 I don't think he really allowed her to have friends. 528 00:26:15.950 --> 00:26:18.787 I remember spending time together over the phone. 529 00:26:18.912 --> 00:26:22.290 He started to get kind of jealous. 530 00:26:23.875 --> 00:26:27.087 JONI: They really did live in Ali's world. 531 00:26:27.212 --> 00:26:30.090 They're in the United States. Her family is overseas. 532 00:26:30.632 --> 00:26:32.258 He really is in control 533 00:26:32.384 --> 00:26:35.470 of who she hangs around, what they do. 534 00:26:37.389 --> 00:26:40.058 And what people didn't know was 535 00:26:40.183 --> 00:26:42.268 she was actually screaming for help. 536 00:26:47.190 --> 00:26:48.817 I would call Ana from time to time 537 00:26:48.942 --> 00:26:51.695 and I kept saying, "You should really come visit me." 538 00:26:51.820 --> 00:26:55.156 And eventually she said, "I spoke with Ali, 539 00:26:55.281 --> 00:26:58.034 he's going to let me come visit you in San Diego." 540 00:26:58.159 --> 00:27:00.328 [upbeat music playing] 541 00:27:02.580 --> 00:27:06.626 Ana went to visit San Diego where a lot of her friends were 542 00:27:06.751 --> 00:27:08.670 and she just loved it. 543 00:27:08.795 --> 00:27:12.465 The lifestyle with the clubs and the high life. 544 00:27:14.843 --> 00:27:17.679 And at the end of her trip she told me, 545 00:27:17.804 --> 00:27:20.056 I'd really love to move here and be closer to you 546 00:27:20.181 --> 00:27:22.225 and to her other friends from Okinawa. 547 00:27:24.227 --> 00:27:25.854 JULIA: So she goes back to Virginia 548 00:27:25.979 --> 00:27:29.607 and she is trying to convince Ali to move to San Diego. 549 00:27:30.358 --> 00:27:32.652 She said, "I've been in Virginia for you. 550 00:27:32.777 --> 00:27:34.571 We've been doing your TikTok's here, 551 00:27:34.696 --> 00:27:35.947 raising our daughter. 552 00:27:36.072 --> 00:27:37.866 I wanna do San Diego for me." 553 00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:40.869 For Ali, it was a win-win. 554 00:27:40.994 --> 00:27:43.455 Moving to San Diego would help his career 555 00:27:43.580 --> 00:27:46.124 working with influencers based in LA 556 00:27:46.249 --> 00:27:47.751 and also would make his wife happy. 557 00:27:48.251 --> 00:27:49.878 It was 100% exciting. 558 00:27:50.003 --> 00:27:51.504 'Cause, you know, his dream of becoming an actor 559 00:27:51.629 --> 00:27:54.466 is even closer than he was ever before. 560 00:27:55.133 --> 00:27:57.594 * Something about today * 561 00:27:59.054 --> 00:28:00.472 * That changed me * 562 00:28:00.597 --> 00:28:03.558 Ultimately, they moved in downtown San Diego 563 00:28:03.683 --> 00:28:05.226 at the Spire. 564 00:28:05.352 --> 00:28:06.853 They're up on the 35th floor. 565 00:28:06.978 --> 00:28:09.564 * Something about the way today... * 566 00:28:09.689 --> 00:28:13.443 KELSEY: It overlooks downtown, the beach and the sunset. 567 00:28:14.444 --> 00:28:16.863 San Diego has a good nightlife, the Gaslamp. 568 00:28:16.988 --> 00:28:19.074 It's a fun place, especially if you're young. 569 00:28:20.325 --> 00:28:22.202 It all seems so perfect. 570 00:28:22.327 --> 00:28:26.623 * Something about today that changed me * 571 00:28:29.250 --> 00:28:31.711 [uplifting music plays] 572 00:28:32.962 --> 00:28:34.756 So the thing about social media is of course 573 00:28:34.881 --> 00:28:36.966 you're trying to display the elements of your life 574 00:28:37.092 --> 00:28:38.802 that you want people to see. 575 00:28:38.927 --> 00:28:40.178 Here's my best dance movie. 576 00:28:40.303 --> 00:28:42.472 Here's my wonderful vacation. 577 00:28:42.597 --> 00:28:44.599 Here's a beautiful picture of me and my partner. 578 00:28:46.017 --> 00:28:47.310 Because we're all putting 579 00:28:47.435 --> 00:28:48.603 our best foot forward on social media. 580 00:28:48.728 --> 00:28:50.188 Anything that you're looking at 581 00:28:50.313 --> 00:28:52.065 as a consumer of social media 582 00:28:52.190 --> 00:28:53.942 is simply not telling the whole truth. 583 00:28:56.444 --> 00:28:58.863 Many social media influencers feel a need 584 00:28:58.988 --> 00:29:02.659 to let their followers 585 00:29:02.784 --> 00:29:04.285 into their personal life, 586 00:29:04.411 --> 00:29:07.539 and I think that's a catch-22 in some respects. 587 00:29:07.664 --> 00:29:10.333 It creates, I think, this image 588 00:29:10.458 --> 00:29:12.627 that they now feel the need to uphold. 589 00:29:15.046 --> 00:29:18.758 There's this TikTok of Ali and Ana dancing 590 00:29:18.883 --> 00:29:20.760 and there's, like, a cutesy moment 591 00:29:20.885 --> 00:29:22.220 where she pulls back the shower curtain 592 00:29:22.345 --> 00:29:23.596 and he is in the shower. 593 00:29:24.556 --> 00:29:27.350 And they're just having so much fun as a couple. 594 00:29:27.475 --> 00:29:29.436 And the hashtag was 595 00:29:29.561 --> 00:29:31.146 "when your relationship is drama free." 596 00:29:31.271 --> 00:29:35.483 *** 597 00:29:35.608 --> 00:29:37.736 I don't know if they just posted that video 598 00:29:37.861 --> 00:29:40.030 as a TikTok just for the views. 599 00:29:40.155 --> 00:29:42.866 In the back of my mind I know they had their problems too, 600 00:29:42.991 --> 00:29:44.284 but every relationship does. 601 00:29:44.409 --> 00:29:46.578 They're perfect. That's what you see. 602 00:29:46.703 --> 00:29:49.122 I think those are the moments that she really held onto. 603 00:29:49.247 --> 00:29:50.415 So she would post that content 604 00:29:50.540 --> 00:29:52.250 and show this side of them 605 00:29:52.375 --> 00:29:53.793 that she wanted the world to see. 606 00:29:53.918 --> 00:29:55.420 She wanted it to be good, 607 00:29:55.545 --> 00:29:58.673 but not everything online is real. 608 00:30:01.176 --> 00:30:03.511 [brooding music playing] 609 00:30:08.767 --> 00:30:10.643 Right after they moved to San Diego, 610 00:30:10.769 --> 00:30:13.521 Ali goes to LA and does this comedy show. 611 00:30:13.646 --> 00:30:15.565 Hello, everybody. It's my first time on stage. 612 00:30:15.690 --> 00:30:16.983 You can see that he is really trying 613 00:30:17.108 --> 00:30:19.319 to make things happen for his career. 614 00:30:19.444 --> 00:30:21.446 He's chasing these dreams that he's always wanted to achieve. 615 00:30:21.571 --> 00:30:23.615 You wanna play rough? Okay. 616 00:30:24.074 --> 00:30:25.784 Say hello to my little friend. 617 00:30:25.909 --> 00:30:28.620 - [audience cheering] - Hey! 618 00:30:30.038 --> 00:30:33.375 Ali felt that this was his moment to shine and get fame. 619 00:30:33.500 --> 00:30:35.126 He wanted to be a movie star. 620 00:30:43.176 --> 00:30:44.511 MAN: Look at that. 621 00:30:44.636 --> 00:30:46.596 RAIN: Ali is becoming very successful. 622 00:30:46.721 --> 00:30:48.431 It got to the point that we all started 623 00:30:48.556 --> 00:30:50.308 counting his views for him. 624 00:30:50.433 --> 00:30:52.102 He just told us how happy he was 625 00:30:52.227 --> 00:30:53.186 and we were happy for him. 626 00:30:53.311 --> 00:30:55.355 JinnKid becomes almost 627 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:58.566 like a part of him in the sense that he really saw that 628 00:30:58.692 --> 00:31:01.653 this brand that he had could reach great success. 629 00:31:01.778 --> 00:31:03.488 Yo, y'all gotta see his 6ix9ine. 630 00:31:03.613 --> 00:31:05.323 This motherfucker's 6ix9ine is spot the fuck on. 631 00:31:05.448 --> 00:31:07.575 Yo, go ahead bro. I'm-a set you up. 632 00:31:07.701 --> 00:31:10.620 Y'all dirty motherfuckers can't fucking touch me. 633 00:31:10.745 --> 00:31:12.455 You feel me? All of y'all. 634 00:31:12.580 --> 00:31:14.040 - [laughing] - Yo. 635 00:31:14.165 --> 00:31:16.042 Yo, what other impressions do you do, bro? 636 00:31:16.167 --> 00:31:18.086 Oh, I do Scarface. 637 00:31:18.211 --> 00:31:20.255 "I told you, man. No fucking kids!" 638 00:31:20.964 --> 00:31:22.424 What you think I am, huh? 639 00:31:22.549 --> 00:31:24.592 What you think I'm a worm like you? 640 00:31:24.718 --> 00:31:27.804 I told you, man. I told you. No fucking kidding! 641 00:31:27.929 --> 00:31:31.349 That's just spot the fuck on. Spot the fuck on, man. 642 00:31:31.933 --> 00:31:33.643 It seemed like he was really fulfilled 643 00:31:33.768 --> 00:31:35.687 by the chance for fame. 644 00:31:35.812 --> 00:31:37.772 Well, you know, I'm following you. 645 00:31:37.897 --> 00:31:39.566 Yo, what's your tag? I want everybody to follow you. 646 00:31:39.691 --> 00:31:40.984 JinnKid. 647 00:31:41.109 --> 00:31:42.527 And the way social media 648 00:31:42.652 --> 00:31:44.404 sort of levels the playing field, 649 00:31:44.529 --> 00:31:46.614 anyone can have a little bit of fame. 650 00:31:47.782 --> 00:31:51.411 He embodies the identity of "I am TikTok famous." 651 00:31:51.536 --> 00:31:54.164 That's who I am. And, like, that's my life now. 652 00:31:54.289 --> 00:31:55.665 I'm a TikTok celebrity. 653 00:31:55.790 --> 00:31:57.500 - Bro, give me the 6ix9ine. - 6ix9ine? 654 00:31:57.625 --> 00:31:59.169 Yo, word to my mother, 655 00:31:59.294 --> 00:32:01.087 I'll smack the teeth out of all y'all, you feel me? 656 00:32:01.212 --> 00:32:03.715 - Y'all the internet gangsters? - [laughter] 657 00:32:03.840 --> 00:32:07.010 Being famous is a fantasy that a lot of people have. 658 00:32:08.053 --> 00:32:10.722 You need that recognition. You need that fame. 659 00:32:10.847 --> 00:32:12.223 And I think for certain people, 660 00:32:12.349 --> 00:32:13.725 and I would include Ali in this, 661 00:32:13.850 --> 00:32:15.727 it becomes almost like an addiction. 662 00:32:15.852 --> 00:32:17.562 I follow this dude, man. It's crazy. 663 00:32:17.687 --> 00:32:21.566 Ali is somebody who took this fame 664 00:32:21.691 --> 00:32:24.736 and really let it go to his head. 665 00:32:24.861 --> 00:32:27.405 Who put this thing together? Me. 666 00:32:27.530 --> 00:32:30.575 Who do I trust? Me. That's who! 667 00:32:36.498 --> 00:32:38.917 When they first moved to San Diego, 668 00:32:39.042 --> 00:32:40.877 it was good for a couple months... 669 00:32:43.004 --> 00:32:46.675 and then things were starting to go really downhill. 670 00:32:47.884 --> 00:32:50.762 They would hang out with only who he wanted to hang out with. 671 00:32:50.887 --> 00:32:53.139 If he didn't want Ana to come out with a girl's night, 672 00:32:53.264 --> 00:32:54.432 she wasn't going. 673 00:32:54.557 --> 00:32:55.975 He kinda just controlled 674 00:32:56.101 --> 00:32:57.769 how she spent her time in San Diego. 675 00:32:57.894 --> 00:33:00.772 I started to think that they actually have problems 676 00:33:00.897 --> 00:33:02.774 or there's something going on. 677 00:33:06.236 --> 00:33:08.363 You're now tuning live. 678 00:33:08.488 --> 00:33:11.533 Ali does tend to rub some people the wrong way. 679 00:33:12.283 --> 00:33:14.160 He loves to talk about himself a lot. 680 00:33:14.285 --> 00:33:16.204 I don't even wanna be like fucking, 681 00:33:16.329 --> 00:33:18.707 what do you call it, Leonardo DiCaprio. 682 00:33:18.832 --> 00:33:20.375 I'm not trying to be the next Al Pacino. 683 00:33:20.500 --> 00:33:21.626 I probably could. 684 00:33:21.751 --> 00:33:23.336 Ali felt that he was better 685 00:33:23.461 --> 00:33:25.046 than other people, 686 00:33:25.171 --> 00:33:27.882 and I think social media has a lot to do with that. 687 00:33:30.927 --> 00:33:33.847 Ali, as he becomes successful, 688 00:33:33.972 --> 00:33:37.017 he began to almost talk about himself 689 00:33:37.142 --> 00:33:39.269 like he was this larger than life person. 690 00:33:39.394 --> 00:33:42.480 Like he was this person who was so important, so famous. 691 00:33:42.605 --> 00:33:45.275 College is bullshit. I'm a college dropout, bitch. 692 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.902 And I make more money than fucking half the people I see. 693 00:33:48.028 --> 00:33:50.780 Ali would walk into a room sometimes 694 00:33:50.905 --> 00:33:52.532 and be like, "Don't you know who I am? 695 00:33:52.657 --> 00:33:54.325 I'm JinnKid. I could do whatever I want." 696 00:33:55.076 --> 00:33:58.997 So that persona didn't leave once he stopped filming. 697 00:34:00.290 --> 00:34:03.126 Ali becomes increasingly invested in his brand 698 00:34:03.251 --> 00:34:06.588 and it seems like almost the boundaries between his brand 699 00:34:06.713 --> 00:34:09.883 and his image and who he is as a person 700 00:34:10.008 --> 00:34:11.926 becomes very confusing and blurred for him. 701 00:34:12.052 --> 00:34:16.014 ALI: I'm a fucking God! I'm a sexy motherfucker! 702 00:34:16.139 --> 00:34:18.141 I'm a fucking internet celebrity! 703 00:34:19.059 --> 00:34:22.771 If you're not able to separate that online persona 704 00:34:22.896 --> 00:34:25.106 to who you truly are in the real world, 705 00:34:25.231 --> 00:34:27.275 it could take a huge toll on you mentally 706 00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.487 and affect real relationships in your real life. 707 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.532 [upbeat music playing] 708 00:34:37.160 --> 00:34:38.620 Ali and Ana, 709 00:34:38.745 --> 00:34:40.288 they're partying a lot, both of them, 710 00:34:40.413 --> 00:34:42.457 and that's when things start to kind of hit the fan. 711 00:34:42.582 --> 00:34:46.211 *** 712 00:34:46.336 --> 00:34:50.131 I had found out that he was abusing cocaine. 713 00:34:50.882 --> 00:34:53.927 When I say this man was on a coke binge, 714 00:34:54.052 --> 00:34:57.806 I'm saying abnormal amounts of cocaine. 715 00:34:58.807 --> 00:35:00.684 LOUIE: Ali really became crazy with this whole thing. 716 00:35:00.809 --> 00:35:02.143 He'd have a bag of it, 717 00:35:02.268 --> 00:35:05.188 like a big bag of cocaine in his pocket, 718 00:35:05.313 --> 00:35:07.565 and he would just pull it out in the middle of a restaurant, 719 00:35:07.691 --> 00:35:08.942 in the middle of a movie theater, 720 00:35:09.067 --> 00:35:10.193 pretty much anywhere we would go. 721 00:35:11.403 --> 00:35:13.446 He would even do it on his live streams 722 00:35:13.571 --> 00:35:15.073 right in front of his audience. 723 00:35:15.198 --> 00:35:17.534 [sharp inhale sniff] 724 00:35:21.246 --> 00:35:23.206 I can hear my friend in the background going, 725 00:35:23.331 --> 00:35:26.001 "Babe," like, "what are you doing?" 726 00:35:26.626 --> 00:35:28.795 At first, Ana was okay with it 727 00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:30.588 because when they've moved to San Diego, 728 00:35:30.714 --> 00:35:32.799 Ana's goal was 729 00:35:32.924 --> 00:35:35.343 to make everything comfortable for him. 730 00:35:35.468 --> 00:35:38.263 She was just allowing him to do what he wanted. 731 00:35:38.388 --> 00:35:39.389 And he is like, "Oh, this?" 732 00:35:39.514 --> 00:35:41.474 [sniffing] 733 00:35:42.392 --> 00:35:43.685 What, this? This nothing. 734 00:35:44.561 --> 00:35:47.188 This... asthma medicine. How'd you like that? 735 00:35:47.313 --> 00:35:48.815 That's not fake. 736 00:35:48.940 --> 00:35:50.859 That's him snorting cocaine on live feed. 737 00:35:50.984 --> 00:35:52.861 And you could see how many viewers 738 00:35:52.986 --> 00:35:55.989 are watching that with laugh reactions. 739 00:35:57.032 --> 00:36:00.493 As the marriage begins to deteriorate, 740 00:36:00.618 --> 00:36:02.203 we really do begin seeing 741 00:36:02.328 --> 00:36:05.999 that this control that he has tried to exhibit, 742 00:36:06.124 --> 00:36:08.460 not just with Ana, but with himself, 743 00:36:08.585 --> 00:36:12.213 is really starting to loosen and he's starting to unravel. 744 00:36:13.381 --> 00:36:16.051 I have never heard of Ana using cocaine 745 00:36:16.176 --> 00:36:18.053 or doing it with her friends. 746 00:36:18.178 --> 00:36:21.264 But I had always heard him doing it 747 00:36:21.389 --> 00:36:22.682 and I think he was jealous 748 00:36:22.807 --> 00:36:25.560 that she had this life with friends. 749 00:36:25.685 --> 00:36:26.811 I can't go out. 750 00:36:26.936 --> 00:36:29.314 [mock cough] I'm sick. 751 00:36:29.439 --> 00:36:31.900 [thrilling music playing] 752 00:36:33.818 --> 00:36:35.236 Ali started to see that 753 00:36:35.362 --> 00:36:39.115 Ana was becoming happy and blooming 754 00:36:39.240 --> 00:36:41.910 and he was not about to have that 755 00:36:42.035 --> 00:36:45.663 because for years he had his wife on the sidelines 756 00:36:45.789 --> 00:36:47.207 and that's how he wanted her. 757 00:36:47.332 --> 00:36:49.793 And this is kinda when the script flips. 758 00:36:49.918 --> 00:36:53.129 [tense music plays] 759 00:36:55.674 --> 00:36:57.759 Ann is the one in her element. 760 00:36:57.884 --> 00:36:59.219 She has all her people there, 761 00:36:59.344 --> 00:37:02.639 but Ali isn't liked as much as Ana 762 00:37:02.764 --> 00:37:04.182 by these friends. 763 00:37:06.184 --> 00:37:10.605 Behind the scenes you see Ali's not included 764 00:37:10.730 --> 00:37:12.941 or he's not a part of the photo 765 00:37:13.066 --> 00:37:15.360 that's getting all the likes and the attention. 766 00:37:16.778 --> 00:37:21.032 Ali was kind of programmed to think a certain way. 767 00:37:21.950 --> 00:37:25.245 I believe that when you come from a strict kind of culture, 768 00:37:25.370 --> 00:37:27.539 there's certain expectations of you 769 00:37:27.664 --> 00:37:29.040 that come from your family. 770 00:37:30.667 --> 00:37:32.836 JONI: Ali has a very rigid idea 771 00:37:32.961 --> 00:37:34.254 of how their relationship should be. 772 00:37:34.379 --> 00:37:36.006 I don't think in any respect he thinks 773 00:37:36.131 --> 00:37:37.757 is an equal relationship. 774 00:37:37.882 --> 00:37:39.426 It's about him. 775 00:37:39.551 --> 00:37:43.346 All I have in this world is my balls and my word. 776 00:37:43.471 --> 00:37:45.056 And I don't break 'em for no one. 777 00:37:45.181 --> 00:37:46.182 You got that? 778 00:37:49.978 --> 00:37:53.273 One day, Ana and I went to the gym. 779 00:37:53.398 --> 00:37:56.943 After that, we went back to Ana's apartment to grab Amira 780 00:37:57.068 --> 00:37:58.778 because we're gonna go do something else. 781 00:38:00.363 --> 00:38:03.742 Ali was very, very angry with Ana 782 00:38:03.867 --> 00:38:06.828 and pulled Ana to the bedroom 783 00:38:06.953 --> 00:38:10.165 and the next thing I know, he's throwing things at her. 784 00:38:11.332 --> 00:38:13.960 Ana runs out of the room, we grab Amira 785 00:38:14.085 --> 00:38:16.171 and we just storm off out of the apartment. 786 00:38:16.838 --> 00:38:18.798 Ali was non-stop texting her like, 787 00:38:18.923 --> 00:38:20.675 "Come back, bring my daughter back. 788 00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:22.927 I'm gonna take all the money out of the account." 789 00:38:23.845 --> 00:38:25.305 I asked her, you know, 790 00:38:25.430 --> 00:38:27.432 "Does he treat you like this all the time? 791 00:38:27.557 --> 00:38:29.184 Has this happened before?" 792 00:38:29.309 --> 00:38:31.186 And she's like, "No, no, babe, don't worry about it. 793 00:38:31.311 --> 00:38:33.021 Don't worry about it. I'm fine. It's okay. 794 00:38:33.146 --> 00:38:35.357 We're just gonna talk later. He's just mad." 795 00:38:37.275 --> 00:38:40.195 That was our first glimpse of how crazy Ali could get. 796 00:38:46.201 --> 00:38:49.412 KAYLA: He didn't want her having a life outside of him. 797 00:38:49.537 --> 00:38:52.791 He wanted her to hold the camera for him 798 00:38:52.916 --> 00:38:54.668 so he can make his skits. 799 00:38:55.710 --> 00:38:57.420 KELSEY: He wants Ana to basically 800 00:38:57.545 --> 00:38:59.964 have Ali be the center of her world. 801 00:39:00.090 --> 00:39:03.635 And when that's not the case, he loses it. 802 00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:06.012 ALI: Ana, I'm really starting to get hurt, man. 803 00:39:06.137 --> 00:39:08.390 I... [sighs] You didn't even tell me 804 00:39:08.807 --> 00:39:10.225 that you're canceling on me, 805 00:39:10.350 --> 00:39:11.601 and now you can't answer my phone. 806 00:39:11.726 --> 00:39:12.977 You said something came up. 807 00:39:13.103 --> 00:39:14.729 And now my mind is just telling me 808 00:39:14.854 --> 00:39:16.731 I'm not important enough for you to answer the phone. 809 00:39:17.357 --> 00:39:19.859 Ali actually starts recording with his phone 810 00:39:19.984 --> 00:39:22.987 some of the things that we would never expect him to record. 811 00:39:38.044 --> 00:39:41.006 He had lost trust in her and he felt from that moment on 812 00:39:41.131 --> 00:39:42.590 that his wife was cheating on him 813 00:39:42.716 --> 00:39:45.176 and he became extremely paranoid about that. 814 00:39:54.227 --> 00:39:56.730 KELSEY: Ali degrades her and degrades her. 815 00:39:56.855 --> 00:39:58.898 Watching these videos, 816 00:39:59.024 --> 00:40:01.109 I wonder why someone would record that. 817 00:40:08.575 --> 00:40:11.661 JULIA: He would berate her for not having sex with him. 818 00:40:11.786 --> 00:40:13.413 Almost demand it from her. 819 00:40:19.919 --> 00:40:21.880 He was territorial 820 00:40:22.005 --> 00:40:25.425 seeing her as more of a property. 821 00:40:25.550 --> 00:40:27.886 And I need to keep this at all costs 822 00:40:28.011 --> 00:40:29.804 and it's solely mine. 823 00:41:01.086 --> 00:41:03.380 I think it made Ali extremely jealous, 824 00:41:03.505 --> 00:41:05.757 the attention that Ana would get because 825 00:41:05.882 --> 00:41:07.425 everyone was always drawn to her. 826 00:41:07.550 --> 00:41:09.010 Everyone always loved her. 827 00:41:10.553 --> 00:41:14.307 It created these explosive fights between the two of them. 828 00:41:31.866 --> 00:41:34.786 I brought her to America. I gave her the American dream. 829 00:41:34.911 --> 00:41:36.913 Therefore, she is my property. 830 00:41:37.038 --> 00:41:38.164 That is how he felt. 831 00:41:38.289 --> 00:41:40.834 [uplifting music playing] 832 00:41:40.959 --> 00:41:44.295 RACHEL: Growing up in a Filipino culture, 833 00:41:44.421 --> 00:41:48.425 women are raised to be quiet 834 00:41:48.550 --> 00:41:50.510 and do what we're told. 835 00:41:51.302 --> 00:41:53.430 We all have one dream and one goal, 836 00:41:53.555 --> 00:41:55.390 and it's to get out 837 00:41:55.515 --> 00:41:58.643 and to come to America to have a better life. 838 00:41:59.894 --> 00:42:02.897 Certain men will think that we are an item. 839 00:42:03.023 --> 00:42:06.359 We should be grateful because they gave us that life. 840 00:42:07.318 --> 00:42:09.237 When you get married, you don't get divorced. 841 00:42:09.362 --> 00:42:12.866 Literally in our country, it's illegal to get divorced, 842 00:42:12.991 --> 00:42:15.744 so she needed to stick this one out. 843 00:42:21.750 --> 00:42:25.337 Ali felt that Ana was taking everything away from him, 844 00:42:25.462 --> 00:42:28.757 so he threatened to get her deported. 845 00:42:32.594 --> 00:42:36.765 If Ana was deported out of America, 846 00:42:36.890 --> 00:42:38.850 she wouldn't be able to see her daughter. 847 00:42:39.601 --> 00:42:42.145 JULIA: Ana just wanted to keep the peace, 848 00:42:42.270 --> 00:42:43.688 especially for her daughter. 849 00:42:43.813 --> 00:42:45.607 She just loved her so much 850 00:42:45.732 --> 00:42:47.609 and she would literally do anything for her, 851 00:42:47.734 --> 00:42:49.986 like, endure everything that Ali was putting her through, 852 00:42:50.111 --> 00:42:53.365 just for her daughter to be happy and to have a dad. 853 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:02.916 When you listen to these recordings, 854 00:43:03.041 --> 00:43:05.919 it's hard to imagine that anybody would want keep a record 855 00:43:06.044 --> 00:43:09.798 because they're so filled with venom. 856 00:43:15.178 --> 00:43:18.431 Is he trying to build some sort of case against her? 857 00:43:18.556 --> 00:43:20.558 He's trying to frame up a narrative 858 00:43:20.684 --> 00:43:24.020 of himself as the victim, 859 00:43:24.145 --> 00:43:27.315 or the kind of suffering protagonist in their marriage. 860 00:43:27.982 --> 00:43:29.651 But it doesn't read like that at all. 861 00:43:36.950 --> 00:43:40.412 Ana actually calls Ali's mom for help. 862 00:43:43.623 --> 00:43:46.960 I think that illustrates the bind sometimes 863 00:43:47.085 --> 00:43:49.337 that domestic violence victims feel. 864 00:43:49.796 --> 00:43:51.756 They want the abuse to stop. 865 00:43:51.881 --> 00:43:54.175 They want to be safe, and yet, 866 00:43:54.300 --> 00:43:57.387 they also don't want to get this person in trouble. 867 00:43:57.512 --> 00:43:59.180 They're thinking about them being in jail. 868 00:43:59.305 --> 00:44:00.849 They're thinking about what this is going to mean 869 00:44:00.974 --> 00:44:02.475 for their daughter, they're thinking about, 870 00:44:02.600 --> 00:44:05.020 what is this going to do to Ali's career? 871 00:44:28.293 --> 00:44:31.504 KAYLA: Ana is trying to protect her daughter, 872 00:44:31.629 --> 00:44:34.507 because she did witness those arguments. 873 00:44:34.632 --> 00:44:36.468 She did see her dad angry at times. 874 00:44:36.593 --> 00:44:40.722 She would hear the screaming, the fighting, the violence. 875 00:44:58.156 --> 00:45:01.201 [brooding music playing] 876 00:45:01.868 --> 00:45:03.578 At this point, what we're seeing 877 00:45:03.703 --> 00:45:05.997 is this increase in conflict between them, 878 00:45:06.122 --> 00:45:08.124 which pretty quickly escalates. 879 00:45:08.249 --> 00:45:09.876 By July of 2021, 880 00:45:10.001 --> 00:45:11.961 it's becoming very, very serious. 881 00:45:12.087 --> 00:45:13.838 Ali will do just about anything 882 00:45:13.963 --> 00:45:15.840 to maintain the control of that relationship. 883 00:45:15.965 --> 00:45:18.009 Whether it's threatening Ana, 884 00:45:18.134 --> 00:45:19.678 whether it's threatening suicide. 885 00:45:41.032 --> 00:45:43.868 I'm just disgusted when I heard 886 00:45:43.993 --> 00:45:47.288 that he had his gun out around his daughter. 887 00:45:47.414 --> 00:45:48.415 It's shocking. 888 00:45:49.708 --> 00:45:52.919 I think what she was hoping for was a change... 889 00:45:53.628 --> 00:45:55.588 but I think Ana knew 890 00:45:55.714 --> 00:45:58.717 that it wasn't safe for her at home. 891 00:46:24.659 --> 00:46:26.161 [Ana crying] 892 00:46:37.339 --> 00:46:41.426 *** 893 00:46:48.099 --> 00:46:51.061 When the police arrive at the apartment, 894 00:46:51.186 --> 00:46:53.980 instead of answering the door right away for the police, 895 00:46:54.105 --> 00:46:56.816 Ali goes in and he brushes his teeth, 896 00:46:56.941 --> 00:46:58.943 because he's been drinking alcohol. 897 00:46:59.069 --> 00:47:00.987 - [water running] - [Ali spits] 898 00:47:04.157 --> 00:47:06.534 And after he gets finished brushing his teeth, 899 00:47:06.659 --> 00:47:08.703 he comes back out and he answers the door. 900 00:47:15.627 --> 00:47:17.337 CAMERON: For the San Diego Police Department, 901 00:47:17.462 --> 00:47:20.757 85% of the police reports that are written 902 00:47:20.882 --> 00:47:22.967 are for domestic violence. 903 00:47:23.093 --> 00:47:25.637 Cops come inside and they separate the two of them 904 00:47:25.762 --> 00:47:27.138 to find out what's going on. 905 00:47:27.263 --> 00:47:29.516 One cop will go in with one half, 906 00:47:29.641 --> 00:47:31.476 another cop will go in with the other half 907 00:47:31.601 --> 00:47:33.395 and they'll determine, "Do we have a crime?" 908 00:47:33.520 --> 00:47:36.815 Now Ali is recording this conversation, 909 00:47:36.940 --> 00:47:38.441 which is highly unusual. 910 00:47:38.566 --> 00:47:39.859 Most people don't record 911 00:47:39.984 --> 00:47:41.695 their conversations with the cops. 912 00:47:48.076 --> 00:47:50.870 JONI: They will conduct some kind of a risk assessment. 913 00:47:50.995 --> 00:47:52.831 It may be arresting one of those people. 914 00:47:52.956 --> 00:47:55.166 You know, it just depends upon the circumstances. 915 00:48:12.183 --> 00:48:15.895 Ali is really good at telling a story 916 00:48:16.021 --> 00:48:17.731 that's believable to the cops. 917 00:48:17.856 --> 00:48:20.191 He's good at presenting himself 918 00:48:20.316 --> 00:48:24.279 as not being the type of guy who would be violent. 919 00:48:39.419 --> 00:48:41.212 There's no injuries or anything like that, 920 00:48:41.338 --> 00:48:45.050 because had there been any visible injury on Ana 921 00:48:45.175 --> 00:48:46.551 when the police officers were there, 922 00:48:46.676 --> 00:48:49.012 it would've been game over for Ali. 923 00:49:09.532 --> 00:49:12.077 And I think it is very difficult for one parent, 924 00:49:12.202 --> 00:49:14.287 no matter how bad the situation is, 925 00:49:14.412 --> 00:49:18.375 to think about removing that kind of dual parenting. 926 00:49:18.500 --> 00:49:20.919 Even though, of course, we know it isn't healthy for that child. 927 00:49:21.044 --> 00:49:23.755 But it can be very difficult to make the decision to leave. 928 00:49:29.177 --> 00:49:30.553 Let's get this clear. 929 00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:34.015 Ali was holding Ana hostage. 930 00:49:34.140 --> 00:49:35.975 She could not get out of this marriage. 931 00:49:36.101 --> 00:49:38.853 So what is somebody supposed to do? 932 00:49:44.359 --> 00:49:47.320 On August 17th, Julia and I planned 933 00:49:47.445 --> 00:49:51.157 a Disney trip for Ana's birthday. 934 00:49:51.282 --> 00:49:52.575 Mila! 935 00:49:52.701 --> 00:49:55.161 I wanted all of our kids to be together 936 00:49:55.286 --> 00:49:58.081 and I needed to go there to check on her. 937 00:49:58.665 --> 00:50:00.333 I followed my heart and... 938 00:50:01.126 --> 00:50:02.377 I'm glad I did. 939 00:50:04.379 --> 00:50:06.840 The whole time Ali was complaining. 940 00:50:06.965 --> 00:50:09.467 Mostly, he didn't want to walk around. 941 00:50:09.592 --> 00:50:11.386 He was tired. 942 00:50:11.511 --> 00:50:15.432 RACHEL: And, of course, he was bringing his drugs 943 00:50:15.557 --> 00:50:18.101 and I was not having it. 944 00:50:18.226 --> 00:50:19.853 And neither was Ana. 945 00:50:19.978 --> 00:50:22.230 We all were practically ignoring him. 946 00:50:23.398 --> 00:50:26.151 And he eventually gave in at 11:00 a.m. 947 00:50:26.276 --> 00:50:28.194 and went to the Jeep and slept. 948 00:50:29.946 --> 00:50:32.532 And we all had an amazing time 949 00:50:32.657 --> 00:50:35.493 and we stayed there 'til the fireworks. 950 00:50:35.618 --> 00:50:39.789 It was kind of our dream to take our kids to Disney. 951 00:50:39.914 --> 00:50:42.917 - ANA: Look, it's Mickey. - Mickey! 952 00:50:43.043 --> 00:50:45.503 ALL: Cheers! 953 00:50:45.628 --> 00:50:47.380 RACHEL: Happy birthday! 954 00:50:47.505 --> 00:50:50.508 RACHEL: We went out for Ana's birthday. 955 00:50:50.633 --> 00:50:53.386 Ali eventually got himself together 956 00:50:53.511 --> 00:50:56.264 and we all chipped in for a table... 957 00:50:57.057 --> 00:50:58.683 at a club in San Diego. 958 00:50:59.601 --> 00:51:02.103 She was really upset because Ali was fighting with her 959 00:51:02.228 --> 00:51:05.398 and making her feel worthless 960 00:51:05.523 --> 00:51:08.234 and like it wasn't her birthday. 961 00:51:08.818 --> 00:51:10.612 What I realized then was that 962 00:51:10.737 --> 00:51:12.655 if he wasn't the center of attention, 963 00:51:12.781 --> 00:51:13.698 he wasn't going to have it. 964 00:51:13.823 --> 00:51:17.077 [menacing music plays] 965 00:51:22.665 --> 00:51:24.793 Before she took me to the airport, 966 00:51:24.918 --> 00:51:28.046 we went to our favorite spot in San Diego, La Jolla. 967 00:51:28.171 --> 00:51:30.507 We took the girls to see the seals, 968 00:51:30.632 --> 00:51:32.759 let them run around and eat ice cream. 969 00:51:33.301 --> 00:51:35.053 ANA: Look at the seals. 970 00:51:35.178 --> 00:51:37.639 Wow, look at the seals, Mila. 971 00:51:37.764 --> 00:51:38.890 MILA: Mom! 972 00:51:39.641 --> 00:51:42.102 RACHEL: We had gotten into an argument, 973 00:51:42.227 --> 00:51:45.105 because I've been telling her, you know, 974 00:51:45.230 --> 00:51:46.481 "You need to leave him." 975 00:51:47.774 --> 00:51:49.401 She made it seem 976 00:51:49.526 --> 00:51:51.778 like there was nothing going on. 977 00:51:51.903 --> 00:51:54.739 That they were just going through some phase. 978 00:51:54.864 --> 00:51:57.033 But I knew that wasn't it. 979 00:51:58.284 --> 00:52:00.245 And I remember telling her at the airport, 980 00:52:00.370 --> 00:52:02.747 "Ana, you can't keep doing this." 981 00:52:03.581 --> 00:52:05.250 And she's like, "I know. I'm going to fix it. 982 00:52:05.375 --> 00:52:06.584 I'm going to fix it." 983 00:52:08.628 --> 00:52:12.090 And I said, "Okay." And she said, "Okay, love you." 984 00:52:12.215 --> 00:52:13.466 And I said, "I love you too." 985 00:52:14.592 --> 00:52:16.594 And that was the last time I ever heard from her. 986 00:52:16.720 --> 00:52:19.848 [somber music playing] 987 00:52:22.434 --> 00:52:23.601 [sighs] 988 00:52:26.187 --> 00:52:27.522 Can I take a break? 989 00:52:29.899 --> 00:52:32.777 [pensive music playing] 990 00:52:33.945 --> 00:52:36.197 Things start to get really ugly at home 991 00:52:36.322 --> 00:52:38.533 and Ali starts to air them out publicly. 992 00:52:38.658 --> 00:52:41.327 Don't get married, guys. Don't get fucking married. 993 00:52:41.745 --> 00:52:45.165 Ali would use his online platform 994 00:52:45.290 --> 00:52:47.459 against Ana at times. 995 00:52:47.584 --> 00:52:50.503 He would go on live and broadcast 996 00:52:50.628 --> 00:52:52.088 really bad fights. 997 00:52:52.213 --> 00:52:53.882 This fucking bitch. 998 00:52:54.007 --> 00:52:56.009 KAYLA: He was saying, "This is what a bitch looks like. 999 00:52:56.134 --> 00:52:57.677 This is what a whore looks like." 1000 00:52:58.386 --> 00:53:01.639 And I saw Ana sitting on the couch, 1001 00:53:01.765 --> 00:53:03.933 not showing her face. 1002 00:53:04.059 --> 00:53:08.021 For him to do that was very dangerous in my point of view, 1003 00:53:08.146 --> 00:53:10.398 and just overall wrong. 1004 00:53:10.523 --> 00:53:14.110 It showed how little he cared about her wellbeing. 1005 00:53:14.235 --> 00:53:15.695 I dedicated my life. 1006 00:53:15.820 --> 00:53:17.322 I threw my whole life away for her. [sniffs] 1007 00:53:17.989 --> 00:53:19.491 And now she's throwing away my life. 1008 00:53:20.784 --> 00:53:23.286 Before they have, seemingly, this perfect life 1009 00:53:23.411 --> 00:53:26.289 that they've shaped online. 1010 00:53:26.414 --> 00:53:29.250 And now it's a completely different story. 1011 00:53:29.376 --> 00:53:30.835 And he is blaming Ana for this. 1012 00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:33.421 I worked so hard to build my platform and... 1013 00:53:35.131 --> 00:53:37.133 turns out the one closest to you 1014 00:53:37.258 --> 00:53:38.760 is the one that tries to destroy it. 1015 00:53:39.427 --> 00:53:41.471 That was definitely hard for me to witness. 1016 00:53:41.596 --> 00:53:44.557 He was doing it to embarrass her. 1017 00:53:44.683 --> 00:53:46.393 I don't even know why I'm telling you, guys. 1018 00:53:46.518 --> 00:53:48.061 But I just care about you guys, man. 1019 00:53:48.853 --> 00:53:50.730 I care about you guys. I care about my brand here. 1020 00:53:50.855 --> 00:53:53.358 He wants his fans or his followers to get 1021 00:53:53.483 --> 00:53:56.528 a look into his life or that he cares about them. 1022 00:53:56.653 --> 00:54:00.281 But, you know, really, he was just embarrassing... 1023 00:54:01.241 --> 00:54:02.617 both of them. 1024 00:54:08.790 --> 00:54:10.250 It was very heartbreaking 1025 00:54:10.375 --> 00:54:12.585 and very hard to watch and very shocking. 1026 00:54:12.711 --> 00:54:15.213 The internet can be such an evil place. 1027 00:54:16.423 --> 00:54:18.258 She didn't know what to do and I didn't know 1028 00:54:18.383 --> 00:54:19.718 how I could help her. 1029 00:54:21.469 --> 00:54:23.596 And that's when everything really, 1030 00:54:23.722 --> 00:54:25.390 really, really started going downhill. 1031 00:54:30.145 --> 00:54:31.980 [brooding music playing] 1032 00:54:36.943 --> 00:54:40.280 Ali knew that a guy named Ray in their friend circle 1033 00:54:40.405 --> 00:54:42.657 liked Ana, was interested in Ana. 1034 00:54:49.372 --> 00:54:51.666 JULIA: Ana and Ali met Ray together. 1035 00:54:51.791 --> 00:54:54.336 I remember Ali coming back to me and saying, 1036 00:54:54.461 --> 00:54:56.296 "Yeah, Ray just told me I'm so lucky 1037 00:54:56.421 --> 00:54:58.590 that I have a beautiful woman like Ana. 1038 00:54:58.715 --> 00:55:00.508 That really bothers me. Why does he say that? 1039 00:55:00.633 --> 00:55:02.427 That just means he wants her." 1040 00:55:03.845 --> 00:55:08.641 Ali has had jealousy issues with Ray from the start, 1041 00:55:08.767 --> 00:55:13.355 because Ray came off like he admired Ana. 1042 00:55:15.690 --> 00:55:19.611 And so Ali started creating this drama 1043 00:55:19.736 --> 00:55:21.821 about how he doesn't trust Ray. 1044 00:55:21.946 --> 00:55:23.114 You want to fuck with me? 1045 00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:25.241 Okay. God, okay. 1046 00:55:25.367 --> 00:55:28.161 KAYLA: In actual real life, 1047 00:55:28.286 --> 00:55:29.871 he would say certain things like, 1048 00:55:29.996 --> 00:55:32.415 "Would it be fun if I just picked up this gun 1049 00:55:32.540 --> 00:55:33.833 and, like, shot a bunch of people?" 1050 00:55:33.958 --> 00:55:35.585 People were like, "Why would you say that? 1051 00:55:35.710 --> 00:55:37.462 That's actually not funny. 1052 00:55:37.587 --> 00:55:38.922 Are you your character right now? 1053 00:55:39.047 --> 00:55:40.340 Or who are you right now?" 1054 00:55:40.465 --> 00:55:43.593 He was so high-strung and so violent 1055 00:55:43.718 --> 00:55:46.554 to where nobody thought it was funny outside of TikTok. 1056 00:55:46.680 --> 00:55:49.557 - You need people like me. - You need people like me. 1057 00:55:49.683 --> 00:55:52.185 - So you can point... - ...your fucking fingers... 1058 00:55:52.310 --> 00:55:53.311 ...and say, "That's the bad guy." 1059 00:55:53.436 --> 00:55:54.646 "That's the bad guy." 1060 00:55:54.771 --> 00:55:56.690 Say good night to the bad guy. 1061 00:55:57.691 --> 00:56:01.027 *** 1062 00:56:01.152 --> 00:56:03.530 One morning, Ana calls me a million times, 1063 00:56:03.655 --> 00:56:05.490 texts me a million times. 1064 00:56:09.077 --> 00:56:11.204 I'm reading all these texts, "Louie, you got to come get me. 1065 00:56:11.329 --> 00:56:12.831 You got to come get me. I need you. 1066 00:56:14.124 --> 00:56:15.208 He's crazy." 1067 00:56:16.001 --> 00:56:17.627 JULIA: She calls me and she says, 1068 00:56:17.752 --> 00:56:19.254 "Hey, can I come over?" 1069 00:56:20.922 --> 00:56:22.507 So she comes to my house 1070 00:56:22.632 --> 00:56:25.427 and she has a big suitcase with her. 1071 00:56:25.552 --> 00:56:28.388 It was Ali's cousin dropping them off. 1072 00:56:28.513 --> 00:56:32.183 We went to the park and I looked at her face 1073 00:56:32.308 --> 00:56:35.562 and I noticed the whole left side of her face was bruised. 1074 00:56:38.982 --> 00:56:41.026 That's finally when she's starting to tell us 1075 00:56:41.151 --> 00:56:44.446 that this has been an ongoing thing since Virginia. 1076 00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:50.702 Domestic violence does not happen overnight. 1077 00:56:50.827 --> 00:56:52.203 There's a reason 1078 00:56:52.328 --> 00:56:56.041 why abusers isolate their victims. 1079 00:56:56.791 --> 00:56:58.376 It's because they can control the narrative 1080 00:56:58.501 --> 00:57:00.962 of what's going on and what happens and all those things. 1081 00:57:01.087 --> 00:57:02.547 When you are now in a place 1082 00:57:02.672 --> 00:57:05.383 where your victim is exposed 1083 00:57:05.508 --> 00:57:07.427 to other people and has support, 1084 00:57:07.552 --> 00:57:10.096 you began losing sometimes the power 1085 00:57:10.221 --> 00:57:11.514 that you've had in that relationship 1086 00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:13.391 to influence that person. 1087 00:57:13.516 --> 00:57:14.893 Everything started coming out 1088 00:57:15.018 --> 00:57:16.811 and she's starting to realize, 1089 00:57:16.936 --> 00:57:19.439 you know, this is a very toxic, abusive relationship 1090 00:57:19.564 --> 00:57:20.899 and that she needs to get out. 1091 00:57:24.944 --> 00:57:27.530 Ana has this picture of her with kind of a bruised eye 1092 00:57:27.655 --> 00:57:29.616 and she's threatening Ali, 1093 00:57:29.741 --> 00:57:31.368 saying, you know, "Should I call the police? 1094 00:57:31.493 --> 00:57:33.370 Should I show your family? 1095 00:57:33.495 --> 00:57:35.288 Should I put it online?" 1096 00:57:36.289 --> 00:57:38.458 And that strikes a chord with Ali, 1097 00:57:38.583 --> 00:57:41.127 because his online persona is his baby. 1098 00:57:42.128 --> 00:57:44.673 JONI: It's so complicated for Ana in these situations 1099 00:57:44.798 --> 00:57:46.591 to think, "How do I get him to stop? 1100 00:57:46.716 --> 00:57:48.593 How do I get him to leave me alone? 1101 00:57:48.718 --> 00:57:50.470 And yet I do feel protective of him 1102 00:57:50.595 --> 00:57:52.430 in terms of I don't want to get him in trouble. 1103 00:57:52.555 --> 00:57:53.807 I don't want to ruin his career." 1104 00:57:53.932 --> 00:57:55.725 And we all look and kind of go, now, 1105 00:57:55.850 --> 00:57:57.727 "Yes, you should post this on Facebook. 1106 00:57:57.852 --> 00:57:59.354 Yes, you should call the police." 1107 00:57:59.479 --> 00:58:01.231 But at that point, I think, 1108 00:58:01.356 --> 00:58:02.691 there is that struggle. 1109 00:58:03.775 --> 00:58:05.694 When you're in that relationship, 1110 00:58:05.819 --> 00:58:08.405 it's hard to just leave, especially a marriage. 1111 00:58:08.530 --> 00:58:09.989 You can feel trapped. 1112 00:58:10.115 --> 00:58:12.575 "How am I going to do this on my own?" 1113 00:58:12.701 --> 00:58:14.577 You feel like no one understands. 1114 00:58:16.371 --> 00:58:20.125 And that's exactly what I think Ana was going through. 1115 00:58:20.250 --> 00:58:22.085 She was in... 1116 00:58:22.877 --> 00:58:24.713 a place where she was stuck... 1117 00:58:25.505 --> 00:58:26.715 and didn't know how to get out. 1118 00:58:30.051 --> 00:58:32.971 [pensive music playing] 1119 00:58:33.096 --> 00:58:36.516 And then Ali started cheating on Ana. 1120 00:58:38.852 --> 00:58:41.730 One of the girls that he fooled around with 1121 00:58:41.855 --> 00:58:44.482 was a girl living at the Spire. 1122 00:58:44.607 --> 00:58:47.318 He met her in the elevator 1123 00:58:47.444 --> 00:58:51.114 and this girl somehow found Ana 1124 00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:52.699 and reached out to her. 1125 00:58:52.824 --> 00:58:55.910 She had to tell her that they slept together. 1126 00:58:56.036 --> 00:58:58.663 Ana was like, "I'm so thankful that you told me this. 1127 00:58:58.788 --> 00:59:00.206 You know, I'm not even mad. 1128 00:59:00.331 --> 00:59:02.751 I just want to know this information." 1129 00:59:04.002 --> 00:59:05.712 This girl told Ana 1130 00:59:05.837 --> 00:59:08.965 that he invited her into their home... 1131 00:59:09.841 --> 00:59:12.052 and he grabbed a big bag of cocaine 1132 00:59:12.177 --> 00:59:15.138 and laid it on their coffee table 1133 00:59:15.263 --> 00:59:16.389 and just started... 1134 00:59:17.390 --> 00:59:21.436 doing a bunch of blow and talking about Ana, 1135 00:59:21.561 --> 00:59:24.439 calling her all these horrible things. 1136 00:59:25.690 --> 00:59:28.735 And, of course, this girl is clearly freaking out, 1137 00:59:28.860 --> 00:59:31.446 'cause she's like, "Okay, this guy is crazy." 1138 00:59:31.571 --> 00:59:33.573 But she was smart 1139 00:59:33.698 --> 00:59:36.409 and knew that she needed to warn Ana. 1140 00:59:37.202 --> 00:59:38.995 Ana wanted to separate at that point. 1141 00:59:39.120 --> 00:59:40.705 That was her final straw. 1142 00:59:41.915 --> 00:59:43.792 *** 1143 01:00:14.614 --> 01:00:17.492 At that point, she just wanted people to know the truth. 1144 01:00:19.661 --> 01:00:20.995 [music fades] 1145 01:00:22.080 --> 01:00:25.166 So then Ana posted a video on TikTok. 1146 01:00:26.209 --> 01:00:28.336 * When she's sleeping in the bed we made * 1147 01:00:28.461 --> 01:00:30.714 * Don't you dare forget about the way * 1148 01:00:30.839 --> 01:00:33.466 * You betrayed me * 1149 01:00:33.591 --> 01:00:34.759 * 'Cause I know that * 1150 01:00:34.884 --> 01:00:38.346 * You'll never feel sorry * 1151 01:00:38.471 --> 01:00:40.390 That was definitely hitting him where it hurt. 1152 01:00:40.515 --> 01:00:43.852 Like, he cared so much about his online presence, 1153 01:00:43.977 --> 01:00:46.563 his reputation, his followers. 1154 01:00:46.688 --> 01:00:48.606 She posts this, knowing full well 1155 01:00:48.732 --> 01:00:50.400 what this is going to do to Ali, 1156 01:00:50.525 --> 01:00:52.152 because he loves 1157 01:00:52.277 --> 01:00:55.030 his online persona and his following, 1158 01:00:55.155 --> 01:00:58.575 and he's kind of just spiraling downwards. 1159 01:00:58.700 --> 01:01:00.535 [dramatic music playing] 1160 01:01:00.660 --> 01:01:02.954 ALI: I didn't cheat on you. You fucking betrayed me. 1161 01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:04.914 And I fucked a girl in Miami too. 1162 01:01:05.040 --> 01:01:06.624 And I fucked a girl in LA. 1163 01:01:06.750 --> 01:01:08.376 I've been fucking bitches all day, 1164 01:01:08.501 --> 01:01:10.545 'cause you deprive me of sex, 1165 01:01:10.670 --> 01:01:13.173 you paint me a bad guy, you fucking disrespect me. 1166 01:01:13.298 --> 01:01:14.674 I'm fucking everybody. 1167 01:01:14.799 --> 01:01:16.885 I am fucking the best man you ever met 1168 01:01:17.010 --> 01:01:18.470 and you're the dumbest bitch 1169 01:01:18.595 --> 01:01:20.096 I ever fucking devoted my life to. 1170 01:01:20.221 --> 01:01:23.183 [chilling music plays] 1171 01:01:23.308 --> 01:01:26.770 I think, at that point, she was so fed up. 1172 01:01:26.895 --> 01:01:28.688 He did all of this to her 1173 01:01:28.813 --> 01:01:30.982 and on top of that, cheated on her. 1174 01:01:31.107 --> 01:01:33.276 She didn't care about their image 1175 01:01:33.401 --> 01:01:35.028 as a happy couple anymore. 1176 01:01:35.153 --> 01:01:37.614 KAYLA: It shows that she's strong. 1177 01:01:37.739 --> 01:01:40.492 And I can see in my friend 1178 01:01:40.617 --> 01:01:43.995 that she's on a healing process. 1179 01:01:44.120 --> 01:01:45.538 She's over it. 1180 01:01:46.122 --> 01:01:48.291 [brooding music playing] 1181 01:01:48.416 --> 01:01:50.794 [cell phone vibrates] 1182 01:01:51.836 --> 01:01:53.963 As soon as Ana posted that video, 1183 01:01:54.089 --> 01:01:55.382 Ali was furious. 1184 01:01:55.507 --> 01:01:57.842 He was desperately blowing up her phone... 1185 01:01:58.968 --> 01:02:01.137 threatening her to take the TikTok down. 1186 01:02:03.181 --> 01:02:05.183 ALI: You block me, you delete my pictures, 1187 01:02:05.308 --> 01:02:07.102 you fucking post a video on TikTok, 1188 01:02:07.227 --> 01:02:08.687 saying seven years of abusive-- 1189 01:02:08.812 --> 01:02:10.397 Shut the fuck up, you bitch. 1190 01:02:11.064 --> 01:02:13.817 So she did, but a lot of people saw it before that. 1191 01:02:14.567 --> 01:02:17.570 *** 1192 01:02:19.447 --> 01:02:21.074 She packed her bags 1193 01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:23.368 and she moved into my friend's house. 1194 01:02:24.285 --> 01:02:27.706 She was trying to move on from her relationship with Ali. 1195 01:02:34.587 --> 01:02:36.965 So Ana says... 1196 01:02:46.474 --> 01:02:47.684 And he goes... 1197 01:02:49.436 --> 01:02:50.645 And she says... 1198 01:02:59.487 --> 01:03:00.864 He didn't even deserve that. 1199 01:03:00.989 --> 01:03:03.283 After everything that he did to her 1200 01:03:03.408 --> 01:03:06.494 and for her to still love him how she did, 1201 01:03:06.619 --> 01:03:08.496 he didn't deserve that at all. 1202 01:03:09.831 --> 01:03:11.416 [brooding music playing] 1203 01:03:11.541 --> 01:03:14.044 JONI: As Ali starts realizing 1204 01:03:14.169 --> 01:03:17.088 that he has permanently lost Ana 1205 01:03:17.213 --> 01:03:20.884 and realizing that he is not going to get her back, 1206 01:03:21.009 --> 01:03:22.552 he begins to change. 1207 01:03:23.178 --> 01:03:24.804 ALI: I gave you this life, all right? 1208 01:03:24.929 --> 01:03:26.723 And the second you started telling me 1209 01:03:26.848 --> 01:03:27.932 that I don't do anything for you, 1210 01:03:28.058 --> 01:03:29.684 that you don't need me. 1211 01:03:29.809 --> 01:03:31.644 I'm going to show you how much you needed me. 1212 01:03:31.770 --> 01:03:33.271 [chuckles] I'm going to show you. 1213 01:03:33.396 --> 01:03:34.939 Life's going to show you. 1214 01:03:35.065 --> 01:03:36.941 Life's going to show you how much you needed me. 1215 01:03:40.528 --> 01:03:41.821 JULIA: So, at this point, 1216 01:03:41.946 --> 01:03:44.616 Ana is living with my friend, 1217 01:03:44.741 --> 01:03:48.286 and Ali continues to live at their apartment. 1218 01:03:48.411 --> 01:03:50.205 She was trying to figure out 1219 01:03:50.330 --> 01:03:52.457 how she was going to start her life in San Diego 1220 01:03:52.582 --> 01:03:53.958 without Ali. 1221 01:03:54.084 --> 01:03:56.169 I did fear for Ana's life. 1222 01:03:56.294 --> 01:03:59.172 I brought up that, "Ali has a gun, you know. 1223 01:03:59.297 --> 01:04:01.174 Do you know how far he would take this?" 1224 01:04:01.299 --> 01:04:02.842 And she would always reassure me. 1225 01:04:02.967 --> 01:04:04.969 She said, "Babe, he would never do that." 1226 01:04:05.095 --> 01:04:07.472 [brooding music playing] 1227 01:04:07.597 --> 01:04:08.890 But Ana... 1228 01:04:10.934 --> 01:04:12.811 didn't think the worst like we did. 1229 01:04:14.354 --> 01:04:17.482 There's sometimes this lack of realization 1230 01:04:17.607 --> 01:04:20.819 that maybe the person would never have hurt you before, 1231 01:04:20.944 --> 01:04:23.029 you haven't left them before. 1232 01:04:23.154 --> 01:04:26.199 And so we can't count on past behavior 1233 01:04:26.324 --> 01:04:28.660 being the same as it is now. 1234 01:04:32.372 --> 01:04:34.874 Ali, out of nowhere, reaches out to her and says, 1235 01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.293 "I'm going to go stay at a hotel, 1236 01:04:37.419 --> 01:04:39.963 and why don't you just move back into the apartment?" 1237 01:04:40.088 --> 01:04:42.799 And Ana was like, "Oh, this is so exciting. 1238 01:04:42.924 --> 01:04:44.300 This would solve all of my problems. 1239 01:04:44.426 --> 01:04:46.219 I can move back into the apartment. 1240 01:04:46.344 --> 01:04:47.762 I don't have to worry about looking 1241 01:04:47.887 --> 01:04:49.139 for another place to live." 1242 01:04:50.015 --> 01:04:52.392 And I think that him offering her the apartment 1243 01:04:52.517 --> 01:04:55.812 was all just a plan to get her in a room, 1244 01:04:55.937 --> 01:04:57.313 so he can do what he did. 1245 01:05:00.984 --> 01:05:04.654 [chilling music plays] 1246 01:05:04.779 --> 01:05:06.156 CAMERON: On October 21st, 1247 01:05:06.281 --> 01:05:08.825 the day starts out with Ana heading out 1248 01:05:08.950 --> 01:05:10.285 to take her daughter to school. 1249 01:05:10.410 --> 01:05:12.829 Ali has, unbeknownst to her, 1250 01:05:12.954 --> 01:05:15.665 made a copy of the electronic key 1251 01:05:15.790 --> 01:05:17.250 to get into her apartment. 1252 01:05:18.293 --> 01:05:20.211 Ali uses the secret key 1253 01:05:20.337 --> 01:05:22.088 and he enters the apartment... 1254 01:05:25.008 --> 01:05:26.676 and he vandalizes it. 1255 01:05:26.801 --> 01:05:29.512 *** 1256 01:05:29.637 --> 01:05:33.099 And then he puts an app on his daughter's iPad, 1257 01:05:33.224 --> 01:05:34.976 so that he can listen in 1258 01:05:35.101 --> 01:05:37.020 on conversations in the apartment. 1259 01:05:37.520 --> 01:05:40.315 He is so fixated on what Ana's doing 1260 01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:43.109 and wanting to catch her cheating on him 1261 01:05:43.234 --> 01:05:46.071 or some damning piece of evidence. 1262 01:05:46.738 --> 01:05:49.657 [tense music plays] 1263 01:05:49.783 --> 01:05:52.827 Around 11 o'clock, Ana returned to the apartment. 1264 01:05:53.787 --> 01:05:56.331 She just calls me and she said, 1265 01:05:56.456 --> 01:06:00.418 "Babe, I came home and the apartment is a mess. 1266 01:06:00.543 --> 01:06:02.796 There's stuff all over the floor. 1267 01:06:02.921 --> 01:06:04.798 Everything's broken." 1268 01:06:06.091 --> 01:06:08.051 I was like, "Oh, my goodness, you need to get out of there." 1269 01:06:08.176 --> 01:06:09.969 And she said, "I'll call the front desk. 1270 01:06:10.095 --> 01:06:11.888 I'll ask them to change the locks. 1271 01:06:12.013 --> 01:06:14.849 I'm going to go today to get a restraining order against him. 1272 01:06:14.974 --> 01:06:16.434 Don't worry. I got this." 1273 01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:18.353 She's like, "I just need a favor. 1274 01:06:18.478 --> 01:06:20.980 Can you pick Amira up from school for me, 1275 01:06:21.106 --> 01:06:22.899 so that I can clean this apartment? 1276 01:06:23.024 --> 01:06:24.776 I don't want her to come home to this mess 1277 01:06:24.901 --> 01:06:26.027 and ask me what happened." 1278 01:06:28.780 --> 01:06:30.907 Ana felt very scared 1279 01:06:31.032 --> 01:06:33.201 after he vandalized the apartment... 1280 01:06:34.077 --> 01:06:38.039 and asked Ray to come over and help clean up. 1281 01:06:39.082 --> 01:06:41.543 Ana and Rayburn were friends. 1282 01:06:41.668 --> 01:06:44.170 Ana said that they were just hanging out. 1283 01:06:45.755 --> 01:06:48.675 CAMERON: A few hours later, Rayburn arrives to the apartment 1284 01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:50.385 and they're talking. 1285 01:06:50.510 --> 01:06:53.138 Ali is back at his hotel room, 1286 01:06:53.263 --> 01:06:55.223 listening in, and he can hear 1287 01:06:55.348 --> 01:06:58.143 Ana's there with a male voice. 1288 01:06:59.894 --> 01:07:01.604 Ali gets in his car 1289 01:07:01.730 --> 01:07:03.773 and he drives over to the apartment 1290 01:07:03.898 --> 01:07:05.066 in downtown San Diego. 1291 01:07:05.984 --> 01:07:09.863 [brooding music playing] 1292 01:07:12.532 --> 01:07:15.535 Ali parks the car, and then he enters on foot 1293 01:07:15.660 --> 01:07:18.329 into the parking garage around 2:50. 1294 01:07:19.706 --> 01:07:21.916 He then starts recording with his phone. 1295 01:07:22.042 --> 01:07:23.585 [rustling] 1296 01:07:24.794 --> 01:07:28.423 Ali enters the elevator and he encounters another person 1297 01:07:28.548 --> 01:07:30.884 and he engages in some small talk. 1298 01:07:40.185 --> 01:07:44.439 At 2:58, Ali arrives on the 35th floor. 1299 01:07:44.564 --> 01:07:47.192 - [elevator beeps] - AUTOMATED VOICE: Thirty-five. 1300 01:07:49.152 --> 01:07:53.031 Ali gets off the elevator, he walks down the hallway... 1301 01:07:54.699 --> 01:07:57.494 and using the electronic key card that he made... 1302 01:07:57.619 --> 01:07:59.120 [door clicks] 1303 01:07:59.245 --> 01:08:01.956 ...you can hear him opening up the door. 1304 01:08:06.169 --> 01:08:07.712 He racks a round into the gun. 1305 01:08:07.837 --> 01:08:09.589 [gun clicks] 1306 01:08:10.382 --> 01:08:12.801 You can hear Rayburn call out. 1307 01:08:12.926 --> 01:08:14.135 RAY: Whoa! 1308 01:08:14.928 --> 01:08:16.513 And then we hear the gunshots. 1309 01:08:16.638 --> 01:08:18.264 [gunshots pop] 1310 01:08:20.684 --> 01:08:23.353 And you can hear Ana's voice as well as she's calling out. 1311 01:08:25.230 --> 01:08:27.482 - [Ana yelling] - [gunshots pop] 1312 01:08:29.901 --> 01:08:32.654 He racks a couple more rounds in after the first four shots... 1313 01:08:33.530 --> 01:08:35.532 and then shoots two more times. 1314 01:08:35.657 --> 01:08:36.991 [gunshot pops] 1315 01:08:37.117 --> 01:08:38.284 - [gun cocks] - [gunshot pops] 1316 01:08:38.410 --> 01:08:42.080 [dramatic music playing] 1317 01:08:44.207 --> 01:08:45.792 [tense music playing] 1318 01:08:45.917 --> 01:08:50.046 At this point, Ali exits the apartment. 1319 01:08:52.590 --> 01:08:55.010 He goes back and forth a few times, 1320 01:08:55.135 --> 01:08:58.930 then he opens the door of the apartment again... 1321 01:09:01.391 --> 01:09:03.601 and screams out Ana's name. 1322 01:09:05.895 --> 01:09:08.023 ALI: Ana! Ana! 1323 01:09:10.150 --> 01:09:13.028 *** 1324 01:09:22.996 --> 01:09:24.289 Yes. 1325 01:09:26.791 --> 01:09:29.127 I was going to pick her up before I headed into work. 1326 01:09:29.252 --> 01:09:31.087 And right in front of me, 1327 01:09:31.212 --> 01:09:33.548 I see Ali pull up 1328 01:09:33.673 --> 01:09:35.842 and grab Amira and put her in the car. 1329 01:09:36.968 --> 01:09:38.636 At this point, I'm not sure what to do. 1330 01:09:38.762 --> 01:09:40.388 I was supposed to pick her up. 1331 01:09:40.513 --> 01:09:42.974 So I'm trying to call Ana and she doesn't pick up. 1332 01:09:44.601 --> 01:09:46.019 And I'm texting her, I'm like, 1333 01:09:46.144 --> 01:09:47.645 "Hey, Ali's here trying to pick Amira up. 1334 01:09:47.771 --> 01:09:49.272 What do I do? What do I do?" 1335 01:09:49.397 --> 01:09:50.732 She didn't text me back. 1336 01:09:51.107 --> 01:09:53.234 And so I follow him 1337 01:09:53.360 --> 01:09:55.320 while I'm calling and calling her, 1338 01:09:55.445 --> 01:09:58.239 trying to get an answer of what I should do. 1339 01:09:58.365 --> 01:10:00.742 Car gets in between us and he goes far 1340 01:10:00.867 --> 01:10:02.494 and he turns right and then I lose him. 1341 01:10:02.619 --> 01:10:04.996 *** 1342 01:10:06.581 --> 01:10:09.000 [tense music playing] 1343 01:10:09.125 --> 01:10:12.587 There was a neighbor witness who actually heard the shots. 1344 01:10:12.712 --> 01:10:14.005 She calls 911. 1345 01:10:25.809 --> 01:10:28.353 Ali's Jeep is spotted on the I-15 freeway 1346 01:10:28.478 --> 01:10:30.480 where he is arrested. 1347 01:10:31.690 --> 01:10:34.526 They search the car and they find a gun 1348 01:10:34.651 --> 01:10:36.528 and they find about 100 rounds 1349 01:10:36.653 --> 01:10:38.530 of nine millimeter ammunition. 1350 01:10:39.948 --> 01:10:41.324 The daughter is fine 1351 01:10:41.449 --> 01:10:43.576 and they take custody of the daughter 1352 01:10:43.702 --> 01:10:45.787 and she's later given to family members. 1353 01:10:45.912 --> 01:10:49.624 *** 1354 01:10:49.749 --> 01:10:52.293 JULIA: At that point, I just-- I was lost. 1355 01:10:52.419 --> 01:10:54.838 I-- I didn't know what to do. I was panicking. 1356 01:10:54.963 --> 01:10:56.297 I called my friend Claire. 1357 01:10:56.423 --> 01:10:58.091 I said, "Claire, Ana hasn't picked up. 1358 01:10:58.216 --> 01:11:01.386 That's really strange. Can you go to her apartment?" 1359 01:11:02.053 --> 01:11:03.805 And then she calls me 15 minutes later 1360 01:11:03.930 --> 01:11:06.641 and she's like, "I can't get to her apartment." 1361 01:11:07.559 --> 01:11:09.102 I was like, "What are you talking about?" 1362 01:11:09.227 --> 01:11:10.520 She says, "They have it blocked off. 1363 01:11:10.645 --> 01:11:12.439 There's a lot of cops here." 1364 01:11:14.649 --> 01:11:17.569 And my heart just sank. 1365 01:11:17.694 --> 01:11:21.031 And I was just-- I just knew already. 1366 01:11:21.156 --> 01:11:22.699 I just knew. 1367 01:11:22.824 --> 01:11:25.160 But I was in disbelief. I was in shock. 1368 01:11:26.202 --> 01:11:27.662 [dramatic music playing] 1369 01:11:27.787 --> 01:11:29.622 REPORTER: New information this afternoon 1370 01:11:29.748 --> 01:11:32.417 about a double homicide inside an East Village high rise. 1371 01:11:32.542 --> 01:11:34.461 Two people have been confirmed dead 1372 01:11:34.586 --> 01:11:37.922 after a shooting that happened at Island in 15. 1373 01:11:39.299 --> 01:11:42.469 RACHEL: The friend called me and she was crying. 1374 01:11:42.594 --> 01:11:45.847 She said that, "I think he finally did it." 1375 01:11:45.972 --> 01:11:49.434 *** 1376 01:11:49.559 --> 01:11:50.977 CAMERON: Cops made entry. 1377 01:11:51.102 --> 01:11:53.063 They find that Rayburn 1378 01:11:53.188 --> 01:11:55.440 is on the couch, deceased. 1379 01:11:55.565 --> 01:11:57.984 He has a gunshot wound to his face 1380 01:11:58.109 --> 01:11:59.778 and his head is back. 1381 01:11:59.903 --> 01:12:02.238 Ana is sitting next to him. 1382 01:12:02.364 --> 01:12:04.574 She has a gunshot wound to her head 1383 01:12:04.699 --> 01:12:08.453 and her body is slumped over, kind of in his lap. 1384 01:12:11.081 --> 01:12:14.209 [somber music playing] 1385 01:12:15.794 --> 01:12:17.962 JULIA: It was already two in the morning. 1386 01:12:18.088 --> 01:12:19.422 And we're all sitting in the lobby 1387 01:12:19.547 --> 01:12:20.799 and we're just waiting. 1388 01:12:24.719 --> 01:12:27.430 Police come and he says, "I'm so sorry, 1389 01:12:27.555 --> 01:12:30.266 but that was Ana Marie and Rayburn 1390 01:12:30.392 --> 01:12:31.601 that was shot upstairs." 1391 01:12:33.061 --> 01:12:33.978 [voice breaks] And... 1392 01:12:35.063 --> 01:12:37.190 I've just never felt anything like that. 1393 01:12:37.315 --> 01:12:39.943 My-- my heart just dropped. 1394 01:12:40.068 --> 01:12:43.029 I've just never felt so much pain before. 1395 01:12:44.197 --> 01:12:46.825 I called-- Ana's mom was the first person I called... 1396 01:12:47.867 --> 01:12:48.702 and I told her. 1397 01:12:49.536 --> 01:12:52.247 And she's like, "What are you talking about, Julia? 1398 01:12:52.372 --> 01:12:53.790 What are you talking about?" 1399 01:12:54.165 --> 01:12:56.543 And-- and I couldn't tell her. 1400 01:12:56.668 --> 01:12:59.170 And we just both started crying on the phone. 1401 01:13:06.344 --> 01:13:08.722 It was so shocking. It was unreal. 1402 01:13:08.847 --> 01:13:10.849 I didn't believe it at first 1403 01:13:10.974 --> 01:13:13.893 until the news came out. 1404 01:13:14.019 --> 01:13:17.397 And then I saw the condo taped off 1405 01:13:17.522 --> 01:13:19.190 and the police outside and... 1406 01:13:20.233 --> 01:13:21.401 it was real. 1407 01:13:22.360 --> 01:13:24.571 Ali confesses to police 1408 01:13:24.696 --> 01:13:26.781 five hours after the murders, 1409 01:13:27.741 --> 01:13:30.660 Ali is charged with two counts of first degree murder, 1410 01:13:30.785 --> 01:13:32.579 a gun use allegation, 1411 01:13:32.704 --> 01:13:35.373 and a special circumstance allegation 1412 01:13:35.498 --> 01:13:37.334 of committing multiple murders, 1413 01:13:37.459 --> 01:13:40.670 which means that he could face the death penalty. 1414 01:13:44.174 --> 01:13:47.218 [sinister music plays] 1415 01:13:49.346 --> 01:13:51.222 I attended the preliminary hearing. 1416 01:13:51.348 --> 01:13:53.224 I mean, it was explosive. 1417 01:13:53.350 --> 01:13:55.060 I did work at the district attorney's office, 1418 01:13:55.185 --> 01:13:57.562 and I've done criminal post-conviction law, 1419 01:13:57.687 --> 01:13:59.939 and I've never been to a hearing like that. 1420 01:14:00.774 --> 01:14:02.984 One of the detectives testified 1421 01:14:03.109 --> 01:14:06.112 that when he reviewed the Instagram account of Ana, 1422 01:14:06.237 --> 01:14:08.656 he started describing what he thought 1423 01:14:08.782 --> 01:14:11.743 was a relationship between Ana and Rayburn 1424 01:14:11.868 --> 01:14:14.329 that now had turned more romantic. 1425 01:14:25.131 --> 01:14:28.426 It's very unusual to have the defendant 1426 01:14:28.551 --> 01:14:30.804 say anything in a court proceeding. 1427 01:14:30.929 --> 01:14:33.223 And then he just completely started losing it 1428 01:14:33.348 --> 01:14:34.516 from that point. 1429 01:14:49.656 --> 01:14:51.199 What would you do if you found out 1430 01:14:51.324 --> 01:14:52.826 that your favorite TikTok star 1431 01:14:52.951 --> 01:14:54.869 was actually a cold-blooded killer? 1432 01:14:54.994 --> 01:14:57.497 Whoa. I know you've seen these videos. 1433 01:14:57.622 --> 01:15:00.291 MAN: The terrifying story of Ali Abulaban. 1434 01:15:00.417 --> 01:15:02.085 KELSEY: It was big news. 1435 01:15:02.210 --> 01:15:04.462 A beautiful couple is now torn apart 1436 01:15:04.587 --> 01:15:06.339 because of a double homicide. 1437 01:15:06.464 --> 01:15:09.050 This TikTok influencer was just arrested for murder. 1438 01:15:09.175 --> 01:15:11.177 Ali pled not guilty to first degree murder charges. 1439 01:15:11.302 --> 01:15:12.637 This is why you shouldn't believe everything 1440 01:15:12.762 --> 01:15:13.972 you see on social media. 1441 01:15:14.097 --> 01:15:15.348 People were hearing about this 1442 01:15:15.473 --> 01:15:16.641 almost across the world. 1443 01:15:16.766 --> 01:15:20.186 [speaking in other languages] 1444 01:15:20.311 --> 01:15:22.897 And then when I saw the outbursts in court... 1445 01:15:23.023 --> 01:15:24.149 I wanted this? 1446 01:15:24.274 --> 01:15:25.316 ...that's when I wrote him. 1447 01:15:25.442 --> 01:15:26.776 Who the [bleep] are you? 1448 01:15:26.901 --> 01:15:28.236 "I'm a reporter covering the story, 1449 01:15:28.361 --> 01:15:30.071 and I'd love to hear your side." 1450 01:15:30.822 --> 01:15:33.158 Now to a story you'll see first on Fox 5. 1451 01:15:33.283 --> 01:15:36.119 A jailhouse interview with a rising TikTok star 1452 01:15:36.244 --> 01:15:38.329 accused of double murder. 1453 01:15:41.124 --> 01:15:43.835 So when you heard Rayburn's voice, you went to-- 1454 01:15:46.838 --> 01:15:48.006 But what were you thinking? 1455 01:15:54.095 --> 01:15:56.473 KAYLA: The crying, the screaming, the slamming. 1456 01:15:56.598 --> 01:15:58.933 When I saw that, I just saw pure evil. 1457 01:15:59.726 --> 01:16:01.353 KELSEY: What happens when you get to the apartment? 1458 01:16:13.114 --> 01:16:14.532 And he says, 1459 01:16:14.657 --> 01:16:17.994 "Ray is on my couch, my house." 1460 01:16:18.119 --> 01:16:19.329 "My, my, my." 1461 01:16:19.788 --> 01:16:21.539 Your family says that 1462 01:16:21.664 --> 01:16:23.416 your social media fame changed you. 1463 01:16:23.541 --> 01:16:25.752 They say that you were doing cocaine, 1464 01:16:25.877 --> 01:16:27.712 didn't really care about the consequences. 1465 01:16:27.837 --> 01:16:29.339 Do you think that made you snap? 1466 01:16:29.464 --> 01:16:30.632 Do you think it changed you? 1467 01:16:48.566 --> 01:16:49.734 KELSEY: Mm-hmm. 1468 01:16:52.404 --> 01:16:54.155 When he's talking about losing his baby, 1469 01:16:54.280 --> 01:16:57.659 he's talking about losing his business, his followers. 1470 01:16:57.784 --> 01:17:00.829 You can see what makes him the most emotional 1471 01:17:00.954 --> 01:17:03.998 is that he feels he lost his chance at fame. 1472 01:17:04.624 --> 01:17:08.294 And you can tell that outweighs, 1473 01:17:08.420 --> 01:17:11.589 in his point of view, losing his family. 1474 01:17:20.098 --> 01:17:22.642 That, to me, is the most disgusting, 1475 01:17:22.767 --> 01:17:24.936 volatile part of... 1476 01:17:25.937 --> 01:17:28.523 everything that has to do with him. 1477 01:17:28.648 --> 01:17:30.650 He only wanted to bring up 1478 01:17:30.775 --> 01:17:34.029 he was this close to getting famous. 1479 01:17:34.696 --> 01:17:36.948 Which is a stretch from reality. 1480 01:17:37.073 --> 01:17:39.909 I don't think his content was very funny at all. 1481 01:17:40.869 --> 01:17:42.454 KELSEY: Did you kill her? 1482 01:17:48.835 --> 01:17:50.503 Could anyone else have Ana? 1483 01:17:50.628 --> 01:17:52.922 [brooding music playing] 1484 01:17:58.553 --> 01:18:02.349 *** 1485 01:18:03.725 --> 01:18:06.895 RAIN: From jail, Ali actually posted a video on YouTube. 1486 01:18:07.020 --> 01:18:08.438 Someone posted it on his behalf. 1487 01:18:08.563 --> 01:18:10.273 ALI: Hey, what's up, guys? 1488 01:18:10.398 --> 01:18:12.859 It's Ali, AKA JinnKid. 1489 01:18:12.984 --> 01:18:14.694 I haven't called myself that for a while. 1490 01:18:14.819 --> 01:18:17.322 But, uh, I just wanted to check in, 1491 01:18:17.447 --> 01:18:19.657 say that I'm doing okay for the most part. 1492 01:18:19.783 --> 01:18:21.409 I'm trying my best to stay positive. 1493 01:18:21.534 --> 01:18:24.079 He seems to be more focused on the fame still. 1494 01:18:24.204 --> 01:18:27.082 He's like, "Oh, I'll be back soon, guys. 1495 01:18:27.207 --> 01:18:29.125 I'm going to get you guys the content you guys want. 1496 01:18:29.250 --> 01:18:31.878 I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry that I'm stuck behind bars." 1497 01:18:32.003 --> 01:18:34.089 ALI: I just wanted to say I'm sorry 1498 01:18:34.214 --> 01:18:36.216 that I can't make the videos that you love. 1499 01:18:36.341 --> 01:18:38.218 I'm sorry that, you know, 1500 01:18:38.343 --> 01:18:42.305 my life has come down to this. 1501 01:18:42.430 --> 01:18:46.101 But not sorry to his wife, or the man that he killed. 1502 01:18:46.226 --> 01:18:48.269 ALI: I love that you still support me 1503 01:18:48.395 --> 01:18:51.189 and you still watch my videos and I love you guys. 1504 01:18:51.314 --> 01:18:53.692 Thank you for all the great times. 1505 01:18:54.651 --> 01:18:57.320 [tense music playing] 1506 01:18:57.445 --> 01:18:59.614 Social media can be really dangerous 1507 01:18:59.739 --> 01:19:02.409 in the hands of the wrong person. 1508 01:19:02.534 --> 01:19:04.828 I don't know to what extent 1509 01:19:04.953 --> 01:19:06.538 Ali's obsession 1510 01:19:06.663 --> 01:19:08.832 with his social media presence 1511 01:19:08.957 --> 01:19:11.459 led to what he did. 1512 01:19:11.584 --> 01:19:14.295 But he clearly had a very unhealthy relationship 1513 01:19:14.421 --> 01:19:15.964 with social media, 1514 01:19:16.089 --> 01:19:18.800 that muddied his understanding of reality, 1515 01:19:18.925 --> 01:19:22.262 that seemed to shape his impression 1516 01:19:22.387 --> 01:19:25.598 of what he believed was an acceptable way to behave. 1517 01:19:25.724 --> 01:19:29.644 And I think that's something worth paying attention to. 1518 01:19:33.523 --> 01:19:37.152 [dramatic music playing] 1519 01:19:38.319 --> 01:19:40.905 Ali's decisions have had dire consequences 1520 01:19:41.031 --> 01:19:44.200 for not only himself, but for my entire family. 1521 01:19:44.325 --> 01:19:46.286 It's going to affect us for the rest of our lives. 1522 01:19:47.245 --> 01:19:50.290 Ali's actions have taken away a mother 1523 01:19:50.415 --> 01:19:52.625 and a father from their daughter. 1524 01:19:52.751 --> 01:19:54.711 And now the daughter, you know, 1525 01:19:54.836 --> 01:19:56.671 is going to grow up 1526 01:19:56.796 --> 01:19:59.507 with somebody else other than her actual parents. 1527 01:19:59.632 --> 01:20:02.635 But at least she gets to be with her family. 1528 01:20:07.015 --> 01:20:10.060 [somber music playing] 1529 01:20:12.771 --> 01:20:14.939 Authorities finally allowed... 1530 01:20:16.316 --> 01:20:18.276 family and friends to come into the apartment 1531 01:20:18.401 --> 01:20:21.613 and grab whatever Ana had left. 1532 01:20:22.864 --> 01:20:26.117 The apartment was still exactly the same... 1533 01:20:27.786 --> 01:20:30.872 except the bodies not being there. 1534 01:20:30.997 --> 01:20:34.125 *** 1535 01:20:35.210 --> 01:20:36.628 When we walked into the crime scene, 1536 01:20:36.753 --> 01:20:37.962 it was just... 1537 01:20:39.547 --> 01:20:41.174 it was very hard. 1538 01:20:41.299 --> 01:20:44.928 You see the breakfast from that morning 1539 01:20:45.053 --> 01:20:47.222 still on the coffee table. 1540 01:20:48.682 --> 01:20:51.643 They took a part of the couch out where it happened. 1541 01:20:51.768 --> 01:20:53.395 But you see the bullet holes. 1542 01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:56.690 You see the mess that Ali created that morning 1543 01:20:56.815 --> 01:20:58.525 that she was FaceTiming me about. 1544 01:20:59.192 --> 01:21:01.194 It was-- it was very hard. 1545 01:21:01.319 --> 01:21:03.238 But, you know, we were there 1546 01:21:03.363 --> 01:21:06.574 to help Ana's family retrieve her things. 1547 01:21:06.700 --> 01:21:08.410 And so that's what we did. 1548 01:21:08.535 --> 01:21:11.830 *** 1549 01:21:11.955 --> 01:21:13.790 RACHEL: All I could think about was, 1550 01:21:13.915 --> 01:21:15.667 I would've tried harder... 1551 01:21:18.336 --> 01:21:21.006 to get her out and keep her safe. 1552 01:21:24.259 --> 01:21:26.177 Because you need a tribe 1553 01:21:26.302 --> 01:21:29.305 to get out of a narcissistic relationship. 1554 01:21:29.431 --> 01:21:32.434 It's hard for me to accept her death, 1555 01:21:32.559 --> 01:21:35.645 because I want to say she's in a better place, 1556 01:21:35.770 --> 01:21:38.940 but a better place, it should be with her daughter. 1557 01:21:43.028 --> 01:21:45.280 This case is so much about Ana and Ali, 1558 01:21:45.405 --> 01:21:47.449 sometimes we forget there's another victim here 1559 01:21:47.574 --> 01:21:48.783 who lost his life. 1560 01:21:48.908 --> 01:21:49.909 That's Ray. 1561 01:21:51.202 --> 01:21:53.580 And maybe he was at the wrong place in the wrong time. 1562 01:21:53.705 --> 01:21:55.457 He was a good friend. 1563 01:21:57.542 --> 01:22:00.170 Ray chose to be there for Ana, 1564 01:22:00.295 --> 01:22:03.298 because he saw her light 1565 01:22:03.423 --> 01:22:06.092 that was surrounded by a lot of darkness. 1566 01:22:13.058 --> 01:22:14.517 REPORTER: The trial of a popular TikTok star 1567 01:22:14.642 --> 01:22:16.186 started today. 1568 01:22:16.311 --> 01:22:18.938 Both sides actually agree that Ali Abulaban 1569 01:22:19.064 --> 01:22:21.524 killed his estranged wife and her friend. 1570 01:22:21.649 --> 01:22:23.109 But as for why it happened, 1571 01:22:23.234 --> 01:22:25.945 there are two very different stories. 1572 01:22:26.071 --> 01:22:27.822 BAILIFF: Everyone rise, please. 1573 01:22:29.991 --> 01:22:32.118 The Superior Court is now in session. 1574 01:22:32.243 --> 01:22:34.287 At the end of this trial, I will ask 1575 01:22:34.412 --> 01:22:36.164 that you find the defendant guilty 1576 01:22:36.289 --> 01:22:38.833 of two counts of first-degree murder. 1577 01:22:40.001 --> 01:22:41.503 One for Ana, one for Ray. 1578 01:22:50.470 --> 01:22:53.390 It's not up for debate if Ali killed Ana and Ray. 1579 01:22:53.515 --> 01:22:57.143 The question is, was this premeditated? 1580 01:22:57.268 --> 01:22:59.896 Willfully spied on Ana, caught her that day. 1581 01:23:00.021 --> 01:23:03.108 KELSEY: When we're talking about proving premeditation, 1582 01:23:03.233 --> 01:23:04.776 that's a pretty tall order. 1583 01:23:04.901 --> 01:23:06.903 Even if you have one jury member 1584 01:23:07.028 --> 01:23:08.446 who doesn't agree with that, 1585 01:23:08.571 --> 01:23:10.323 you can have a hung jury, and that's a mistrial. 1586 01:23:13.618 --> 01:23:15.745 There's a lot of evidence in this trial. 1587 01:23:15.870 --> 01:23:17.497 The audio from Ali's phone 1588 01:23:25.255 --> 01:23:26.965 KELSEY: They also have video of Ali 1589 01:23:27.090 --> 01:23:29.300 riding at the elevator, 35 floors. 1590 01:23:29.426 --> 01:23:32.429 SYNTHETIC VOICE: Going up. Level 20. 1591 01:23:33.972 --> 01:23:36.099 Level 35. 1592 01:23:36.725 --> 01:23:38.143 KELSEY: A Nest Camera that's attached 1593 01:23:38.268 --> 01:23:39.978 to one of the neighbor's doors. 1594 01:23:46.401 --> 01:23:50.488 And you see Ali walk out of the room into the hallway, 1595 01:23:50.613 --> 01:23:51.823 and he calls his mother, 1596 01:23:51.948 --> 01:23:54.159 and he confesses to killing Ana. 1597 01:24:02.459 --> 01:24:04.252 JODI GREEN: Ana knew Ali well. 1598 01:24:04.377 --> 01:24:06.546 She knew his underlying vulnerabilities. 1599 01:24:06.671 --> 01:24:08.715 Public defender Jodi Green argues 1600 01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:10.842 that this it is voluntary manslaughter 1601 01:24:10.967 --> 01:24:13.803 because she says this was a crime of passion 1602 01:24:13.928 --> 01:24:15.513 and that Ali was provoked. 1603 01:24:25.607 --> 01:24:28.568 She knew his insecurities about his mental illness, 1604 01:24:28.693 --> 01:24:31.946 his drug addiction, and his own chaotic upbringing. 1605 01:24:32.072 --> 01:24:33.406 She used these, 1606 01:24:33.531 --> 01:24:35.283 and she weaponized them against him. 1607 01:24:36.910 --> 01:24:40.663 She's saying that Ana pushed Ali to the brink, 1608 01:24:40.789 --> 01:24:42.332 and that's why he broke. 1609 01:24:42.999 --> 01:24:46.252 That Ana was a cause of why he killed her. 1610 01:24:46.378 --> 01:24:48.713 That Ana disrespected him. 1611 01:24:48.838 --> 01:24:51.466 We also see a picture of Ana and Ray 1612 01:24:51.591 --> 01:24:54.219 kind of cuddled up together on what looks to be a bed. 1613 01:24:54.344 --> 01:24:56.262 She's saying Ana cheated on him, 1614 01:24:56.388 --> 01:24:58.473 causing him to lose his mind, 1615 01:24:58.598 --> 01:25:01.184 go to the brink, and shoot Ana and Ray. 1616 01:25:05.021 --> 01:25:07.232 JODY: And at this time, the defense would call 1617 01:25:07.357 --> 01:25:09.359 Mr. Ali Abulaban. 1618 01:25:09.484 --> 01:25:13.071 KELSEY: And then on May 21st, the defense calls Ali. 1619 01:25:15.323 --> 01:25:17.909 On the stand, Ali is basically saying, 1620 01:25:18.034 --> 01:25:19.619 "Hey, I'm not a liar, here." 1621 01:25:19.744 --> 01:25:23.707 He's admitting to killing Ana and Ray 1622 01:25:23.832 --> 01:25:25.125 and to being abusive, 1623 01:25:25.250 --> 01:25:28.670 and it's making him seem believable. 1624 01:25:28.795 --> 01:25:30.922 I was trying to believe her, I was trying to believe 1625 01:25:31.047 --> 01:25:32.674 that she wasn't cheating on me, 1626 01:25:32.799 --> 01:25:34.676 that she would let me fix this, because I was sick. 1627 01:25:34.801 --> 01:25:37.595 I was struggling from drugs and mental illness. 1628 01:25:37.721 --> 01:25:39.347 And when I saw that it was him... 1629 01:25:43.184 --> 01:25:44.561 I couldn't take it. 1630 01:25:44.686 --> 01:25:47.105 I couldn't take the fucking betrayal. 1631 01:25:48.273 --> 01:25:50.150 Thank you. Nothing further at this time. 1632 01:25:51.985 --> 01:25:55.071 KELSEY: Taren Brast begins her cross-examination. 1633 01:25:56.406 --> 01:25:59.576 And you know from the beginning, she's trying to break him down. 1634 01:25:59.701 --> 01:26:02.037 TAREN: You were mad at Ana because she told you 1635 01:26:02.162 --> 01:26:04.080 over and over again that she did not want to be 1636 01:26:04.205 --> 01:26:05.457 married to you, correct? 1637 01:26:06.875 --> 01:26:08.626 You were mad at Ana. 1638 01:26:08.752 --> 01:26:11.671 October 17th, you were violent and angry with her, correct? 1639 01:26:11.796 --> 01:26:14.382 I became violent at the last second, yes. 1640 01:26:14.507 --> 01:26:16.593 She's bringing up searches on his phone, 1641 01:26:16.718 --> 01:26:18.553 such as a trash can, 1642 01:26:18.678 --> 01:26:22.098 exploitation of minors, sex workers, 1643 01:26:22.223 --> 01:26:24.184 and chopped bodies. 1644 01:26:24.309 --> 01:26:25.435 You're out of your mind. 1645 01:26:26.227 --> 01:26:28.229 You're not going to paint me as something I'm not. 1646 01:26:30.648 --> 01:26:34.194 After a four-week excruciating trial, 1647 01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:36.237 the jury retires to deliberate, 1648 01:26:36.363 --> 01:26:38.656 and everyone is just on pins and needles 1649 01:26:38.782 --> 01:26:40.533 to see what's going to happen. 1650 01:26:43.703 --> 01:26:45.663 BAILIFF: Come to order. The court is now is session. 1651 01:26:47.374 --> 01:26:48.541 [indistinct] 1652 01:26:54.005 --> 01:26:55.965 We, the jury, in the above-entitled cause, 1653 01:26:56.091 --> 01:26:59.886 find the defendant, Ali Nasser Abulaban, guilty 1654 01:27:00.011 --> 01:27:02.472 of the crime of murder in the first degree. 1655 01:27:02.597 --> 01:27:04.933 [crowd cheering] 1656 01:27:05.058 --> 01:27:06.726 KELSEY: The jury finds Ali guilty 1657 01:27:06.851 --> 01:27:09.312 of two counts of first-degree murder. 1658 01:27:14.818 --> 01:27:17.737 We didn't have any doubt that we were going to get 1659 01:27:17.862 --> 01:27:20.865 anything other than guilty, but it's just the relief. 1660 01:27:20.990 --> 01:27:23.284 We've been waiting almost three years for this. 1661 01:27:23.410 --> 01:27:26.079 She didn't think he would do it 1662 01:27:26.204 --> 01:27:28.039 because every domestic violence victim 1663 01:27:28.164 --> 01:27:30.417 is not there for themselves. 1664 01:27:32.752 --> 01:27:34.379 And that's what we need to change in this world. 1665 01:27:34.504 --> 01:27:36.006 We need to look at this situation, 1666 01:27:36.131 --> 01:27:37.382 and this is the end result. 1667 01:27:37.507 --> 01:27:39.342 This is the end result. [sobbing] 1668 01:27:42.679 --> 01:27:45.390 JONI: I think for anyone who's in a situation 1669 01:27:45.515 --> 01:27:47.392 where they're experiencing abuse, 1670 01:27:47.517 --> 01:27:50.520 the number one thing, I think, is to reach out to somebody. 1671 01:27:50.645 --> 01:27:54.607 I think the enemy of making healthy decisions 1672 01:27:54.733 --> 01:27:58.361 is isolation and keeping things to yourself. 1673 01:27:58.486 --> 01:27:59.988 And so the first step, there are just 1674 01:28:00.113 --> 01:28:01.740 so many resources available. 1675 01:28:01.865 --> 01:28:04.284 There are hotlines, there are community resources. 1676 01:28:04.409 --> 01:28:07.245 Making sure that you end that isolation 1677 01:28:07.370 --> 01:28:08.621 in some way. 1678 01:28:11.374 --> 01:28:14.461 [somber music] 1679 01:28:14.586 --> 01:28:18.465 I sit here today, sharing Ana's story, 1680 01:28:18.590 --> 01:28:22.052 because I want people to not be silent, 1681 01:28:22.177 --> 01:28:25.930 to not care about what you look like on social media 1682 01:28:26.056 --> 01:28:29.768 or care what people are going to think of you 1683 01:28:29.893 --> 01:28:32.437 because you're in a bad situation. 1684 01:28:33.688 --> 01:28:35.648 Your truth is who you are, 1685 01:28:35.774 --> 01:28:39.402 and you need to embrace it and own it. 1686 01:28:39.527 --> 01:28:43.239 And we need to be the change that we want for the world. 1687 01:28:45.325 --> 01:28:46.493 JULIA: I wish we could have seen 1688 01:28:46.618 --> 01:28:48.411 all our daughters grow up together 1689 01:28:48.536 --> 01:28:50.455 and have this mom life, 1690 01:28:50.580 --> 01:28:52.624 take them to the beach and... 1691 01:28:52.749 --> 01:28:55.168 I just-- I miss her so much. 1692 01:28:55.293 --> 01:28:56.920 I really, really miss her so much. 1693 01:28:57.045 --> 01:29:00.298 And I really, really wish she was still here with us. 1694 01:29:00.423 --> 01:29:01.716 RACHEL: But we're here now. 1695 01:29:04.928 --> 01:29:07.222 JULIA: Now we're gonna continue to make her proud. 1696 01:29:10.517 --> 01:29:13.311 RACHEL: Silence is what got Ana here. 1697 01:29:13.436 --> 01:29:16.439 Her story needs to be heard 1698 01:29:16.564 --> 01:29:18.191 to save other women, 1699 01:29:18.316 --> 01:29:22.737 and to prevent children growing up without their parents. 1700 01:29:24.531 --> 01:29:29.661 *** 1701 01:29:54.060 --> 01:29:58.940 [tense music]