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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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- Whoa, nobody's shooting me.
Nobody's shooting me.
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Nobody's shooting me.
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There's three shooters to make
sure somebody is shooting me.
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You got me acting crazy
in front of all these people.
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Disney paying a lot
for this motherfucking art
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I'm going to give them--
fuck that.
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- During those times,
I had to wonder
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what was going on in his head.
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Like, why is he really angry?
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[hip-hop music]
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- It was shocking to me.
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What's really
going on out here?
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[indistinct chatter
over police radio]
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- We need to be asking
the question...
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not what's wrong with you...
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but what happened to you?
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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- Sean and I--
we grew up together as kids.
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I know Sean.
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And he's made
so many mistakes.
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- Fuck that. I'm going to give
them their money's worth.
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- I used to work
with Sean Combs.
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And I don't want to be here
to talk about another man
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unless their business
crosses my business.
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[voice breaking]
If you only knew
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the shit
I fucking been through.
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There was a bounty
that was put on to silence me.
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- I'm back, baby.
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- It's a lot worse than
what the public knows.
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- [crying]
It's been 20 years.
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I haven't said anything
for so long.
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- Mr. Combs!
[cheering]
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- I've gone from Harlem
to Hollywood.
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[indistinct chatter]
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Diddy finally has the key
to the city!
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[cheering]
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I'm gonna show y'all
how we have fun
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and stay out of jail, too...
- Whoa.
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- And make money.
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[dog barks]
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- Like, just show me
what's around here.
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We'll walk with you.
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- So, yeah, so...
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about 1,100 square feet.
- Uh-huh.
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- Small, but it's
kind of spacious.
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It works for me.
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But I've been here
since around 2019.
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We're somewhere
in the woods, way remote,
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I guess what they call
these days "off-grid."
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- So this is pretty similar
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to what it was like
growing up for you?
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- Right now?
- Yeah.
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- No, no, this is
a little different.
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But I grew up weird.
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I grew up in the ghetto,
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and then I moved over into
the suburbs, where Sean lived.
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My reason
for having you guys here
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is because I truly believe
that what's going on right now
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is bigger than you.
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It's bigger than me.
It's bigger than media.
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It's bigger than this world.
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I just know
that where I am now,
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amongst all the noise...
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- We begin with breaking news.
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- Mr. Combs has been accused
of sexual assault.
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- Amongst all the headlines...
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- Rap star Sean "Puffy" Combs
is out on bail this morning.
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- There is
a federal investigation
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into sex trafficking.
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- Amongst all the chaos...
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- Abuse, harassment,
forced drugging.
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- Physically assaulting...
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- Multiple homes raided
by federal law enforcement.
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- He is public enemy
number one right now.
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And a lot of things that are
being attached to Sean now...
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I can't condone
any of the things
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that I've heard or seen.
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He's "monsterized" now.
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But monsters are made.
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You know,
that's my little bro.
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You know, I know Sean,
not Diddy, not Daddy Love.
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I don't know those people.
I don't know them.
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I swear I don't know them.
I've never met those people.
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I have to tell people
about what they don't know
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about his childhood.
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The making of Sean Combs...
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Sean is the son
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of two Harlem "it" people.
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Janice is Sean's mom.
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Speaking of Janice,
this is Janice here.
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And Melvin is Sean's dad.
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And Sean--he grew up
in Mount Vernon.
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That's where they built
a house.
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Now, here's the context
of it all.
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Mount Vernon is
a 4-square-mile city,
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maybe 25, 30 minutes
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from Manhattan--
New York proper.
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And at the north side is
where you would love to live
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because it's
the residential side.
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It's grass. It's birds.
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It's everything
the south side isn't.
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The south side,
that's your ghetto.
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That's where
I was born and raised
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until about five years old.
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This is a town you come to
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to get away from the hip town,
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to kind of integrate yourself
into some type of normalcy.
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Melvin--I've never met him,
never knew him.
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He passed before I met Sean.
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Why he wasn't there was just
a mystery to both of us.
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So Sean had to learn
about his dad
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through other fellas
that came up during that time.
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- Sean Combs' father
was allegedly...
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a gangster, a hustler,
and a player
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in the streets of New York.
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- Melvin was a part
of a group of guys
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that was led by Nicky Barnes...
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big Harlem kingpin,
if you want to call it.
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- His father sold
to an undercover cop.
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[siren wailing]
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This was a New York City
police officer.
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And he gave
the cop information.
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His father was killed because
he was ratting them out.
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- I don't know how he died.
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I don't know.
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I just know Janet
woke up one day,
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and he was not there,
and Sean was.
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Janice was left a lot of money.
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There was a brand-new house,
and Janet had to pivot.
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And her desire was
to occupy that house
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with someone that had a son
close to the age of her son.
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- My mom knew Janet,
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and somehow, someway,
they hooked up,
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and we were offered the bottom
floor on her brand-new house
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that her and Melvin had built.
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And we had a chance now
to move on the north side.
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So, when we pulled up
to this house,
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I saw a whole new world,
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and all I did was look
at these two people,
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because what I saw,
I saw Black people like myself,
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but they had
a different color Black.
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It was golden. It was shiny.
It was healthy.
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They had really nice clothes
and jewelry.
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So we get up to the house.
We get out the car.
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Janice says, well, wait
a minute, let me go get Sean.
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And she goes upstairs.
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She comes back down
with this little kid.
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And I look at him
like, oh, my God,
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this guy is different.
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He's the one in the hat.
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And you can see
he has jewelry on.
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He has rings on.
He has bracelets on.
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This is a 4-year-old
in a 30-year-old's wardrobe.
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- My first interaction
with Sean Combs--
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He wasn't Puffy yet--
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We were playing baseball
down at Brush Park
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in Mount Vernon, New York.
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He was on Little League,
had braces.
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And he's a shy guy.
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You know, he wasn't real loud
and boisterous.
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I don't know
if he was good good,
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to where I would say
he was good in baseball.
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He was on the team.
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Even with the football,
it was like,
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he played football
at Mount Saint Michael.
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I'm not going to
say he was good.
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I heard he was on the team.
[laughs]
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- So I first met Puff
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when he came to a cousin
of mine's house party.
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He was part
of a dancing fashion crew
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called 7-Up Crew.
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And those guys would go
throughout New York City,
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battle people
in dancing, fashion.
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He also was one
of the first kids that I knew
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that had, like, a Gucci watch.
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- He always had all the best
of everything.
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Like, Sean didn't go
to school with us.
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Sean went to the Catholic
school, private school.
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- Private school.
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They always say that--
oh, yeah, he's doing good.
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Got him in private school.
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- This kid is rich.
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He was looked at
as the rich kid.
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Sean was the different kid.
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Sean was the kid that people
could smell was not tough.
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Sean was always bullied.
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You know, getting hit
up your head,
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on the side of your head
one too many times
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or getting called a bitch
one too many times.
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There's one kid in particular.
Name was Jonathan.
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He was about 6 feet tall
at 12 years old--
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real big, husky dude.
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And for some reason,
Jonathan would pick on him.
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And he would pick on him
and hit him and make him cry
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and take his bike
and just do mean stuff...
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to the point where
I couldn't watch that happen.
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I had to intervene,
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because my interaction
with Sean was a protector.
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It was a bigger bro.
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When something's done to them,
you step up.
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But after I graduated
high school
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and I went into military,
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Sean didn't have me
around anymore.
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- There's been
quite a bit of research done
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on a body of work
that we really refer to a lot.
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It's called
Adverse Childhood Experiences,
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or ACEs.
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It can be everything
from witnessing
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domestic violence,
physical abuse.
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It could be having
a parent who's absent.
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Here's a man who lost
his father early in life
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under some very violent,
tragic circumstances.
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If you've lost a parent,
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there's a desire
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to belong to something
bigger than yourself,
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to not be isolated,
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to belong to a group,
to fit in.
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- This is one of the pictures
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before Puff joined
the Same Gang.
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I started the Same Gang
in '89.
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We were men that came together,
and we went to parties.
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You know, we clubbed.
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You had some guys
that was hustling.
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Puff--man, he want
to be with us.
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He want to be with us.
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A lot of guys didn't want him
a part of the Same Gang
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because he didn't live
in Harlem.
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The dudes
didn't really like him.
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All right,
so one day we decided--
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they said,
Puff, come over here.
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We're going to have
the young'uns tighten him up.
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[indistinct shouting]
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And we gonna smash him
in the head...
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Rough him up,
or stuff like that.
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[indistinct shouting]
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When Puff came,
we was all out there.
256
00:12:31,632 --> 00:12:33,034
And the young guys grabbed him.
257
00:12:33,194 --> 00:12:35,710
♪ ♪
258
00:12:35,711 --> 00:12:37,337
And they start trying
to rough him up.
259
00:12:37,338 --> 00:12:39,048
And he jetted, running.
260
00:12:41,144 --> 00:12:43,569
They brought him back
to rough him up,
261
00:12:43,570 --> 00:12:46,598
smash stuff, hit him
in the head with cakes
262
00:12:46,758 --> 00:12:49,474
and all this other stuff
like that.
263
00:12:49,475 --> 00:12:53,478
After that,
Puff was in the Same Gang.
264
00:12:53,479 --> 00:12:56,107
This is the picture...
265
00:12:56,267 --> 00:12:58,610
when he crossed over
into the Same Gang.
266
00:12:58,770 --> 00:13:01,070
He got
the Same Gang T-shirt on.
267
00:13:05,026 --> 00:13:07,118
[chain saw whirring]
268
00:13:09,531 --> 00:13:13,699
- When I got home
from the military--
269
00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:17,269
and Sean and I hadn't seen
each other in a while,
270
00:13:17,270 --> 00:13:20,355
and, you know, I'm like,
what's up, Sean?
271
00:13:20,356 --> 00:13:23,259
He's like, yeah,
they call me Puff now.
272
00:13:23,419 --> 00:13:24,803
They call me Puff.
273
00:13:26,814 --> 00:13:29,039
I was being
looked at as a punk.
274
00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,642
I was being looked at
as a pushover.
275
00:13:30,802 --> 00:13:32,517
I was being looked at
as a sissy,
276
00:13:32,518 --> 00:13:34,519
as a wimp, as a goofy.
277
00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,398
I ain't even trying to know
that person again.
278
00:13:39,210 --> 00:13:40,500
And I'm a Puff Daddy now.
279
00:13:40,501 --> 00:13:44,405
♪ ♪
280
00:13:44,566 --> 00:13:47,633
- So that insecurity,
the need to fit in...
281
00:13:47,634 --> 00:13:49,259
- I had a great time.
- Yeah?
282
00:13:49,260 --> 00:13:51,061
- I'm glad
they invited me back.
283
00:13:51,222 --> 00:13:52,387
- The need to feel powerful.
284
00:13:52,388 --> 00:13:53,656
[paparazzi shouting]
285
00:13:53,816 --> 00:13:55,423
Some perpetrators
286
00:13:55,424 --> 00:13:57,643
are profoundly damaged
individuals...
287
00:13:57,644 --> 00:14:00,395
[loud cheering]
288
00:14:00,396 --> 00:14:04,033
And feel very powerless.
289
00:14:04,194 --> 00:14:07,178
And a way of being powerful
290
00:14:07,338 --> 00:14:10,256
is controlling
and victimizing other people.
291
00:14:10,416 --> 00:14:12,807
- What's up with your
relationship with Jennifer?
292
00:14:12,808 --> 00:14:17,013
- I am a civil litigator
who has filed several cases
293
00:14:17,173 --> 00:14:19,941
against Sean Combs
for sexual assault
294
00:14:20,101 --> 00:14:21,693
in civil court.
295
00:14:21,853 --> 00:14:26,463
I have been sounding the alarm
about Mr. Combs for years.
296
00:14:26,464 --> 00:14:29,383
He is a man who has done
awful things
297
00:14:29,384 --> 00:14:32,203
to hundreds,
maybe thousands of people.
298
00:14:32,363 --> 00:14:34,245
- I'm wilder, I'm crazier.
299
00:14:34,246 --> 00:14:36,223
- I want to speak
about this now
300
00:14:36,224 --> 00:14:38,367
because I witnessed everything.
301
00:14:38,461 --> 00:14:40,411
- [crying] I haven't said
anything for so long,
302
00:14:40,571 --> 00:14:43,188
and it's built up--
it's been 20 years.
303
00:14:43,189 --> 00:14:46,215
- Um...
304
00:14:46,216 --> 00:14:48,294
[crying]
I don't trust anyone...
305
00:14:48,454 --> 00:14:50,722
♪ ♪
306
00:14:50,882 --> 00:14:55,099
Because I'm afraid that they
might come get me for speaking.
307
00:14:55,100 --> 00:14:58,062
♪ ♪
308
00:15:02,802 --> 00:15:05,019
[soft music]
309
00:15:05,179 --> 00:15:06,145
- Go.
310
00:15:06,239 --> 00:15:08,022
The very first girlfriend
311
00:15:08,116 --> 00:15:10,474
Sean had that I met...
312
00:15:10,635 --> 00:15:12,625
was named Tracy.
313
00:15:12,626 --> 00:15:14,477
She was from Brooklyn.
314
00:15:14,478 --> 00:15:17,380
We were older now,
teenagers and stuff.
315
00:15:17,381 --> 00:15:19,659
So Tracy used to come
to the house.
316
00:15:19,819 --> 00:15:22,587
I'm sure he had college girls,
but I wasn't around.
317
00:15:25,216 --> 00:15:27,759
[dramatic music]
318
00:15:27,919 --> 00:15:30,452
- I know some girls
that he's dated, you know,
319
00:15:30,613 --> 00:15:32,771
that have called him
a perfect gentleman.
320
00:15:32,772 --> 00:15:35,973
But when Sean started getting
more and more popular
321
00:15:35,974 --> 00:15:38,785
and he had one
of the hot girls on campus,
322
00:15:38,786 --> 00:15:40,605
there was a lot of jealousy
that went on.
323
00:15:42,909 --> 00:15:45,109
Maybe his personality
might not have been
324
00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:47,985
the most sensitive.
325
00:15:47,986 --> 00:15:50,839
I'm not sure what Puff
might have been focused on,
326
00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,193
but I just know
that he had a love for music.
327
00:15:54,353 --> 00:15:56,770
- Back when I was
going to Howard in '87,
328
00:15:56,931 --> 00:15:59,523
I was trying to get
into the music industry.
329
00:15:59,684 --> 00:16:03,703
Everybody was looking at me
like I was crazy.
330
00:16:03,863 --> 00:16:06,605
- I met Puffy on Howard's
campus for the first time.
331
00:16:06,606 --> 00:16:08,681
I was actually the first person
on Howard's campus
332
00:16:08,682 --> 00:16:10,743
to have a drum machine
at that time.
333
00:16:10,904 --> 00:16:12,727
And I've been
in the music industry
334
00:16:12,728 --> 00:16:15,513
ever since I was probably
15 years old.
335
00:16:15,514 --> 00:16:17,616
So he wanted to get with me
336
00:16:17,617 --> 00:16:20,353
because he knew
that I had connections.
337
00:16:20,513 --> 00:16:22,346
He would tell you that,
338
00:16:22,506 --> 00:16:25,874
I'm going to be the biggest
record producer in the world.
339
00:16:25,875 --> 00:16:29,802
Like, he already knew what
he wanted at Howard University.
340
00:16:29,803 --> 00:16:32,831
- He hung out with a lot
of friends from Mount Vernon.
341
00:16:32,832 --> 00:16:35,834
One of our biggest celebs
from Mount Vernon,
342
00:16:35,835 --> 00:16:37,535
his name is Heavy D.
343
00:16:37,536 --> 00:16:39,739
Heavy D came up to campus.
344
00:16:39,899 --> 00:16:43,040
- Heavy D was part
of Heavy D & the Boyz.
345
00:16:43,041 --> 00:16:47,663
They were actually the first
act signed to Uptown Records.
346
00:16:47,823 --> 00:16:51,282
Diddy spoke to his friend
Heavy D, and he said,
347
00:16:51,283 --> 00:16:53,476
can you get me an internship?
348
00:16:53,477 --> 00:16:56,472
Please get me an internship
at Uptown Records.
349
00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:00,351
- Hey, can you make
this happen?
350
00:17:03,239 --> 00:17:06,190
[loud cheering]
351
00:17:08,244 --> 00:17:09,742
- Uptown Records
352
00:17:09,743 --> 00:17:14,198
was modeled as
a boutique version of Motown,
353
00:17:14,358 --> 00:17:16,600
but we just had
the hip-hop flavor to it.
354
00:17:16,761 --> 00:17:18,751
I had a little bit
of success myself,
355
00:17:18,752 --> 00:17:22,830
being the first number-one
artist on Uptown
356
00:17:22,831 --> 00:17:25,534
and the first platinum
artist on Uptown.
357
00:17:25,694 --> 00:17:28,544
♪ ♪
358
00:17:28,545 --> 00:17:30,814
I don't think
that people ever knew
359
00:17:30,815 --> 00:17:34,552
that Al B. Sure! funded Uptown.
360
00:17:36,473 --> 00:17:38,271
I was working with Jodeci,
361
00:17:38,272 --> 00:17:40,440
Mary J. Blige,
362
00:17:40,441 --> 00:17:42,534
Heavy D & the Boyz.
363
00:17:42,535 --> 00:17:45,453
We took a company
like Uptown from zero
364
00:17:45,454 --> 00:17:47,780
and made it into
a billion-dollar corporation
365
00:17:47,781 --> 00:17:49,357
or somewhere close.
366
00:17:49,358 --> 00:17:51,659
[cell phone rings]
- Hello?
367
00:17:51,660 --> 00:17:54,570
- Sean wanted to work
at Uptown.
368
00:17:54,571 --> 00:17:56,664
He actually did some more,
like, suffering
369
00:17:56,665 --> 00:18:00,319
just to, you know, get
that internship.
370
00:18:00,479 --> 00:18:02,321
- So Sean would show up
in the weirdest places--
371
00:18:02,481 --> 00:18:04,622
at Heavy D's doorstep.
372
00:18:04,623 --> 00:18:06,826
He'd show up at Uptown,
he'd show up at parties--
373
00:18:06,986 --> 00:18:09,311
anything to get the attention
of the bigwigs.
374
00:18:09,312 --> 00:18:11,879
- He was really trying to get
375
00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,483
Andre Harrell's, the president
of Uptown Records, attention.
376
00:18:15,484 --> 00:18:16,985
From what I heard--
377
00:18:16,986 --> 00:18:19,487
is that he even,
like, slept outside of his car
378
00:18:19,488 --> 00:18:22,741
because he really wanted
to be in this.
379
00:18:22,742 --> 00:18:25,643
- And then Sean
forced his way in
380
00:18:25,644 --> 00:18:28,321
with what he can do for Andre
381
00:18:28,322 --> 00:18:29,774
and became an intern.
382
00:18:31,820 --> 00:18:36,614
♪ ♪
383
00:18:40,661 --> 00:18:43,687
- Yeah, I don't remember much.
384
00:18:43,848 --> 00:18:45,913
It's not like we hung out
on a daily basis
385
00:18:45,914 --> 00:18:48,042
and things of that nature.
386
00:18:48,202 --> 00:18:51,295
But what you do know
about Sean,
387
00:18:51,455 --> 00:18:54,698
one of Sean's
best attributes was,
388
00:18:54,859 --> 00:18:57,552
Sean let everybody know
in the camp,
389
00:18:57,712 --> 00:18:59,628
nobody's going to be
bigger than me.
390
00:18:59,788 --> 00:19:01,806
♪ ♪
391
00:19:01,966 --> 00:19:04,708
- At first, he was just really
just getting coffee,
392
00:19:04,869 --> 00:19:07,011
getting paper,
making Xerox copies.
393
00:19:07,171 --> 00:19:09,788
There wasn't that much money
in it yet.
394
00:19:09,789 --> 00:19:12,883
So he started
promoting parties.
395
00:19:13,044 --> 00:19:16,819
Now he's starting to make
some money with his parties.
396
00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:19,372
But at the same time,
there was an event.
397
00:19:19,373 --> 00:19:22,726
♪ ♪
398
00:19:22,887 --> 00:19:24,829
This is where he was going on
through some hard times.
399
00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:28,532
- That tragic event--
400
00:19:28,692 --> 00:19:30,484
I think the guy
wanted to kill himself...
401
00:19:30,645 --> 00:19:33,711
[chuckles]
Be honest with you.
402
00:19:33,712 --> 00:19:35,464
- He was a party promoter.
403
00:19:37,168 --> 00:19:40,735
But at the time, myself and
many other people
404
00:19:40,736 --> 00:19:44,472
did not know who Sean Combs,
"Puff Daddy" was,
405
00:19:44,473 --> 00:19:47,101
until the City College event.
406
00:19:47,261 --> 00:19:50,429
- Puff and Heavy D
decided to throw
407
00:19:50,589 --> 00:19:53,757
a celebrity charity
basketball game.
408
00:19:53,918 --> 00:19:57,436
And the proceeds was supposed
to go to an AIDS foundation.
409
00:19:57,596 --> 00:20:01,664
When you got Mike Tyson,
LL Cool J,
410
00:20:01,665 --> 00:20:04,241
Heavy D himself,
a big celebrity,
411
00:20:04,242 --> 00:20:06,695
the urban community
wanted to see that.
412
00:20:06,855 --> 00:20:09,448
♪ ♪
413
00:20:09,608 --> 00:20:11,525
Highly, highly publicized.
414
00:20:11,686 --> 00:20:14,602
It was promoted on WBLS.
415
00:20:14,603 --> 00:20:18,606
- 98.7 Kiss--
they were blasting it.
416
00:20:18,607 --> 00:20:20,534
If you didn't know
about that event,
417
00:20:20,695 --> 00:20:21,860
something was wrong with you,
418
00:20:21,861 --> 00:20:24,704
because it was
all over the place.
419
00:20:24,705 --> 00:20:27,873
- My sister, Sonya Williams--
420
00:20:27,874 --> 00:20:31,053
she met Sean through his
girlfriend at the time.
421
00:20:31,147 --> 00:20:33,522
And he gave her the ticket.
422
00:20:33,683 --> 00:20:35,948
- My brother was excited
about it.
423
00:20:35,949 --> 00:20:37,977
He called everyone up.
424
00:20:38,137 --> 00:20:40,152
Yo, meet me at City College.
425
00:20:40,153 --> 00:20:42,907
Had nothing...
426
00:20:43,067 --> 00:20:44,808
tragic happened,
427
00:20:44,969 --> 00:20:47,870
it would have been
the best event ever.
428
00:20:53,586 --> 00:20:55,735
[serious music]
429
00:20:55,736 --> 00:20:58,571
- December 28, 1991--
430
00:20:58,572 --> 00:21:01,474
wow, that was a day.
[scoffs]
431
00:21:01,475 --> 00:21:03,877
December 28, 1991.
432
00:21:04,038 --> 00:21:06,005
I remember, you know,
my phone was ringing,
433
00:21:06,165 --> 00:21:07,640
and people want tickets.
434
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,817
Do you have tickets?
Can you get me tickets?
435
00:21:10,818 --> 00:21:12,061
- How y'all doing this morning?
436
00:21:12,221 --> 00:21:14,987
- At 22, Sean was a genius
at marketing.
437
00:21:14,988 --> 00:21:17,391
- They promoted it like it was
438
00:21:17,551 --> 00:21:20,861
in a 10,000-seat arena.
439
00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:27,401
- No, I said, WBLS promoted it
440
00:21:27,561 --> 00:21:30,479
as if it was a 10,000 seating.
441
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,806
City College holds 2,700.
442
00:21:32,807 --> 00:21:34,709
[cheering]
443
00:21:34,869 --> 00:21:37,009
- Not only
was it filled inside,
444
00:21:37,010 --> 00:21:39,788
there was probably
just as many people outside
445
00:21:39,948 --> 00:21:41,114
that couldn't get inside.
446
00:21:41,275 --> 00:21:43,742
- There was this girl.
447
00:21:43,903 --> 00:21:48,746
And she was packed
in the glass door.
448
00:21:48,747 --> 00:21:50,424
And everybody was telling her,
yo, just go home.
449
00:21:50,584 --> 00:21:51,750
You can go out the back.
450
00:21:51,911 --> 00:21:53,827
- The crowd started
to get unruly.
451
00:21:53,828 --> 00:21:55,829
- The ticket crew
closed the door.
452
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:58,281
- I heard, they locked me in.
453
00:21:58,282 --> 00:21:59,859
She locked the door.
454
00:22:00,019 --> 00:22:02,660
- Now they're crushed
against the door,
455
00:22:02,661 --> 00:22:05,588
like, packed, back to back.
456
00:22:05,589 --> 00:22:07,116
- When the crowd
rushed through...
457
00:22:07,276 --> 00:22:09,518
- All the glass and everything
just shattered.
458
00:22:09,679 --> 00:22:10,844
[imitates glass shattering]
459
00:22:10,845 --> 00:22:12,703
And people just
started running in.
460
00:22:12,704 --> 00:22:14,990
- And you got people piling up
on one another and another
461
00:22:15,150 --> 00:22:16,924
and another.
462
00:22:16,925 --> 00:22:18,777
And people are screaming,
just let me in, let me in.
463
00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:20,954
- And there were people who--
464
00:22:21,115 --> 00:22:24,682
My friends said they heard Dirk
smothered, like, mm...
465
00:22:24,683 --> 00:22:26,993
Like, they could hear him being
completely covered
466
00:22:27,155 --> 00:22:29,270
by the crowd.
467
00:22:29,271 --> 00:22:32,641
[screaming]
468
00:22:32,802 --> 00:22:35,803
- I ran around the gym,
opened one door.
469
00:22:35,897 --> 00:22:37,855
People start falling down
right there.
470
00:22:38,015 --> 00:22:41,273
Open up another door--people
start falling down there.
471
00:22:41,274 --> 00:22:43,944
[indistinct shouting]
472
00:22:45,823 --> 00:22:47,731
- I didn't see Diddy at all.
473
00:22:47,891 --> 00:22:50,109
- What I do see is him...
474
00:22:50,269 --> 00:22:53,211
Puffy, running around,
trying to save people.
475
00:22:53,212 --> 00:22:56,038
I saw him trying to give
476
00:22:56,039 --> 00:22:58,290
mouth-to-mouth resuscitation
to people.
477
00:22:58,291 --> 00:23:02,421
- I never saw Sean Combs
478
00:23:02,581 --> 00:23:06,799
give anyone CPR.
479
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,976
If anybody tells you that,
480
00:23:08,977 --> 00:23:12,054
they telling a flat-out lie.
481
00:23:12,055 --> 00:23:14,583
- Ain't nobody wanted to give
them mouth-to-mouth,
482
00:23:14,744 --> 00:23:16,185
no people mouth-to-mouth
or none of that.
483
00:23:16,345 --> 00:23:17,937
- I can't even perform CPR
484
00:23:18,097 --> 00:23:19,855
because everybody's trying
to crowd around and look.
485
00:23:28,824 --> 00:23:29,822
- 9 young people
crushed to death,
486
00:23:29,823 --> 00:23:30,950
27 others injured trying to get
487
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:32,926
into a celebrity
basketball game.
488
00:23:32,927 --> 00:23:35,753
- My brother was pronounced
dead at 7:50.
489
00:23:35,754 --> 00:23:37,755
And he got there,
I think, at 7:00.
490
00:23:37,756 --> 00:23:40,332
- My sister's name
is Sonya Williams.
491
00:23:40,333 --> 00:23:43,135
That's Sonya,
the larger picture.
492
00:23:43,136 --> 00:23:46,715
And this is the stairwell
that she died in.
493
00:23:46,876 --> 00:23:50,169
- Jabaal, Dawn,
Leonard, Sonya, Dirk,
494
00:23:50,329 --> 00:23:53,973
Charise, Darren,
Laytesha, and Yul
495
00:23:54,133 --> 00:23:55,808
from New York City.
496
00:23:55,968 --> 00:23:58,686
[dramatic music]
497
00:23:58,846 --> 00:24:00,828
City College 9.
498
00:24:00,829 --> 00:24:03,015
- And I just pray
for the families.
499
00:24:03,175 --> 00:24:06,134
And I pray for the children
that lost their lives.
500
00:24:06,295 --> 00:24:10,138
- The news is, he oversold
an event, him and Heavy D.
501
00:24:10,299 --> 00:24:12,390
And you know why?
Because their names were on it.
502
00:24:12,552 --> 00:24:14,116
- I was a promoter
of the event.
503
00:24:14,117 --> 00:24:16,144
- This thing,
somehow or another,
504
00:24:16,305 --> 00:24:20,798
made him
the most famous guy around.
505
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,750
- How you doing?
- Come on.
506
00:24:22,751 --> 00:24:24,802
- Puffy became more known.
507
00:24:24,803 --> 00:24:27,772
It almost made him,
in a real weird way.
508
00:24:27,773 --> 00:24:29,399
Yeah.
509
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,091
- I just wish that everyone
510
00:24:31,092 --> 00:24:34,013
would just admit
their mistakes,
511
00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:36,089
live up
to their responsibilities.
512
00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:37,998
- He wasn't criminally charged,
513
00:24:37,999 --> 00:24:40,392
but there were lawsuits
that he had to deal with.
514
00:24:40,393 --> 00:24:43,246
- Those families are asking
a judge to decide fault
515
00:24:43,247 --> 00:24:45,098
and award a penalty.
516
00:24:45,259 --> 00:24:47,399
- When my mother
was in litigation
517
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,777
with the other families,
518
00:24:48,938 --> 00:24:50,679
then the details
start coming out.
519
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,764
You promoted this event.
520
00:24:52,925 --> 00:24:55,041
You didn't hire
enough security.
521
00:24:55,042 --> 00:24:57,209
You oversold the tickets.
522
00:24:57,210 --> 00:25:00,013
Someone took the money,
ran down the stairs,
523
00:25:00,014 --> 00:25:01,290
and shut the door.
524
00:25:01,450 --> 00:25:04,117
♪ ♪
525
00:25:04,278 --> 00:25:07,044
We was in litigation
with this for six years.
526
00:25:07,045 --> 00:25:09,798
So now his music
is doing well.
527
00:25:09,959 --> 00:25:11,482
[paparazzi shouting]
528
00:25:11,483 --> 00:25:13,450
Sean John is getting
ready to come out.
529
00:25:13,451 --> 00:25:17,429
- This is Sean John, Sean John.
I'm wearing Sean John.
530
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:19,967
- So he's doing very well.
531
00:25:20,061 --> 00:25:23,962
He calls me
to the BMG building.
532
00:25:24,123 --> 00:25:25,889
You know, it's just me
and him in the office,
533
00:25:26,049 --> 00:25:27,465
and he seemed very nervous.
534
00:25:27,627 --> 00:25:31,118
He seemed so nervous
that his lips turned white.
535
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,281
And he says, Sonny, I'm going
to offer you $50,000.
536
00:25:36,576 --> 00:25:38,876
So I remember looking
around the office,
537
00:25:38,877 --> 00:25:41,154
and I'm seeing all these
plaques now on the wall--
538
00:25:41,315 --> 00:25:43,306
platinum plaques, gold plaques.
539
00:25:43,307 --> 00:25:45,433
I said, brother,
you got all this going on,
540
00:25:45,434 --> 00:25:49,136
and you offering me $50,000?
541
00:25:49,137 --> 00:25:51,164
- He says, Sonny, man,
listen, man, you know,
542
00:25:51,325 --> 00:25:52,890
that's real generous.
543
00:25:52,891 --> 00:25:54,466
That's a generous donation.
544
00:25:54,467 --> 00:25:57,469
And I lost it.
545
00:25:57,470 --> 00:26:00,823
I said, is Sonya
your fucking friend?
546
00:26:00,824 --> 00:26:03,752
You offer me $50,000...
547
00:26:03,913 --> 00:26:06,329
and you gave Sonya the ticket
548
00:26:06,330 --> 00:26:08,906
to go to that event?
549
00:26:08,907 --> 00:26:11,110
That was a slap in my face.
550
00:26:11,270 --> 00:26:13,411
I don't want to talk money.
551
00:26:13,412 --> 00:26:17,116
I want you to help me do
something in their memory.
552
00:26:17,276 --> 00:26:20,694
I said, but is Sonya
your friend?
553
00:26:20,854 --> 00:26:22,830
He wouldn't answer me.
554
00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:27,275
So I go out.
I go out the room.
555
00:26:27,436 --> 00:26:29,427
So now I'm conflicted.
556
00:26:29,428 --> 00:26:31,955
Maybe you should take it,
and maybe he'll work with you
557
00:26:32,115 --> 00:26:34,958
and help you
with the foundation.
558
00:26:35,118 --> 00:26:37,136
So I go back in the office.
559
00:26:37,296 --> 00:26:39,496
I said, listen, man,
I don't want you bringing up
560
00:26:39,657 --> 00:26:43,342
money and Sonya
in the same sentence.
561
00:26:43,502 --> 00:26:45,443
I said, $50,000?
562
00:26:45,444 --> 00:26:48,046
He said, Sonny, please,
man, trust me, man.
563
00:26:48,207 --> 00:26:50,941
It's a good donation.
564
00:26:56,031 --> 00:26:58,282
I reluctantly did it.
565
00:27:05,074 --> 00:27:07,140
- All families settled
566
00:27:07,141 --> 00:27:10,377
and were giving
a settlement amount.
567
00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:15,047
We got $40,000
568
00:27:15,048 --> 00:27:17,475
from Sean Combs directly.
569
00:27:17,476 --> 00:27:19,235
[paparazzi shouting]
570
00:27:19,236 --> 00:27:22,288
But he never owned up
to it, never--
571
00:27:22,450 --> 00:27:24,807
never just said, I apologize.
572
00:27:24,808 --> 00:27:28,244
There's a clip of him saying
that it wasn't overbooked.
573
00:27:28,245 --> 00:27:31,122
- You know, we sold tickets,
but we didn't outsell.
574
00:27:31,123 --> 00:27:33,065
The place--it wasn't sold out.
575
00:27:33,066 --> 00:27:35,343
- That's a blatant lie.
576
00:27:35,504 --> 00:27:38,454
[paparazzi shouting,
people screaming]
577
00:27:38,455 --> 00:27:40,998
His image is important
for him.
578
00:27:40,999 --> 00:27:44,251
The lies go back
to City College.
579
00:27:44,252 --> 00:27:46,078
- Everything I do every day,
580
00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:49,208
I try to be a shining example
of hard work
581
00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:51,109
and what you get
if you work hard.
582
00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:53,578
- Had someone
found him accountable,
583
00:27:53,673 --> 00:27:55,956
it may have just slowed down
the process
584
00:27:56,050 --> 00:28:00,092
of all the other things that
happened to other people.
585
00:28:00,093 --> 00:28:02,094
- Here with Al B. Sure!
586
00:28:02,095 --> 00:28:04,447
Mr. Al B., I'm getting a lot
of letters about you, man,
587
00:28:04,448 --> 00:28:06,524
a lot of ladies
out there watching.
588
00:28:06,525 --> 00:28:08,352
And they want to see,
what's behind those glasses?
589
00:28:08,512 --> 00:28:10,169
[laughter]
590
00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:12,806
- Before Sean was an intern,
591
00:28:12,966 --> 00:28:15,901
I met a woman, Kimberly.
592
00:28:16,061 --> 00:28:19,052
One day, I was backstage,
593
00:28:19,053 --> 00:28:20,254
Madison Square Garden.
594
00:28:20,255 --> 00:28:23,098
And the first time I laid eyes
595
00:28:23,099 --> 00:28:25,617
on Kimberly Antwinette...
596
00:28:25,618 --> 00:28:28,497
Porter...
597
00:28:28,657 --> 00:28:30,622
we met.
598
00:28:30,623 --> 00:28:32,126
[softly]
That was it.
599
00:28:32,286 --> 00:28:34,310
[normal voice]
Yo, I swear.
600
00:28:34,311 --> 00:28:37,129
[laughs] I still feel like
a little kid when I remember.
601
00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:38,298
That's crazy.
602
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,586
We had a son, Quincy.
603
00:28:42,746 --> 00:28:46,638
- Al had influence in getting
Kim a job at Uptown,
604
00:28:46,639 --> 00:28:50,451
and Kim became
the receptionist.
605
00:28:50,452 --> 00:28:53,272
- At one point, I was
working on K-Ci & JoJo
606
00:28:53,432 --> 00:28:54,646
on one of the soundtracks.
607
00:28:54,647 --> 00:28:56,398
Sean came by the studio.
608
00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:58,277
I believe
he may have been with...
609
00:28:58,437 --> 00:29:01,328
his significant other
at the time, who was Misa.
610
00:29:01,329 --> 00:29:03,681
♪ ♪
611
00:29:03,843 --> 00:29:06,401
And I was in the studio with...
612
00:29:06,495 --> 00:29:08,310
Kimberly.
613
00:29:08,311 --> 00:29:10,662
And we had the baby with us
at that point, I think,
614
00:29:10,663 --> 00:29:13,266
and we were--
I was at the mixing board.
615
00:29:13,267 --> 00:29:16,519
He walked into the studio,
and he looked over,
616
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,672
and he saw
this really beautiful girl.
617
00:29:20,673 --> 00:29:24,602
And she was holding
this really beautiful baby.
618
00:29:24,603 --> 00:29:29,207
And he said, hey, man...
619
00:29:29,368 --> 00:29:32,102
I wish I had a beautiful girl
like that.
620
00:29:34,373 --> 00:29:38,040
I was like, uh, you do.
621
00:29:38,041 --> 00:29:40,117
It's Misa.
622
00:29:40,118 --> 00:29:43,621
- It was love at first sight
623
00:29:43,622 --> 00:29:46,306
with Sean seeing Kim.
624
00:29:46,307 --> 00:29:48,976
It was a "stop you
in your tracks" moment,
625
00:29:48,977 --> 00:29:51,186
a "oh, my God" moment,
626
00:29:51,187 --> 00:29:53,631
"I got to have her" moment.
627
00:29:53,632 --> 00:29:55,659
And...
628
00:29:55,819 --> 00:29:59,186
he gets what he wants.
629
00:29:59,187 --> 00:30:01,089
The whole staff
watched it happen.
630
00:30:01,250 --> 00:30:02,740
Sean had no shame
in his aggression
631
00:30:02,902 --> 00:30:06,143
towards Kim and his approach
to her--no shame.
632
00:30:06,144 --> 00:30:09,071
Just like, this is the girl.
You're going to be my girl.
633
00:30:09,072 --> 00:30:11,675
You might not know it yet,
but...
634
00:30:11,835 --> 00:30:14,102
- Listen, there's an OG rule.
635
00:30:14,263 --> 00:30:16,980
If you my brother
and you and your wife--
636
00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:19,114
if something happens...
637
00:30:19,115 --> 00:30:21,208
she's off-limits.
638
00:30:21,209 --> 00:30:25,087
- Sean! Sean, this way!
[person shouts]
639
00:30:25,088 --> 00:30:28,724
- They dated off and on
for years...
640
00:30:28,725 --> 00:30:33,745
always on in his mind
and never off.
641
00:30:33,746 --> 00:30:37,284
Puff was sick with her.
642
00:30:37,444 --> 00:30:39,253
No matter who he dealt with
643
00:30:39,413 --> 00:30:43,206
or who he had over...
644
00:30:43,366 --> 00:30:46,484
he always ran back to Kim.
645
00:30:46,485 --> 00:30:50,964
- I have a photo of Sean
and Kim Porter
646
00:30:51,124 --> 00:30:53,240
in Paris Fashion Week,
647
00:30:53,241 --> 00:30:55,394
Kim and I on the yacht
in Saint-Tropez.
648
00:30:55,554 --> 00:30:58,770
He would fly glam out
to even, like, vacations,
649
00:30:58,771 --> 00:31:02,174
because we had to make sure
Kim Porter looked perfect.
650
00:31:02,175 --> 00:31:04,444
And he had to look perfect.
651
00:31:04,605 --> 00:31:06,405
Kim was from Georgia.
652
00:31:06,565 --> 00:31:10,457
She wasn't this glam girl
that the world perceived.
653
00:31:10,458 --> 00:31:12,452
We made her glam.
654
00:31:14,323 --> 00:31:16,022
She was his arm candy.
655
00:31:16,183 --> 00:31:18,250
♪ ♪
656
00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:22,294
- It seems that Diddy
ended up adopting Quincy
657
00:31:22,295 --> 00:31:24,331
and raising Quincy as his own.
658
00:31:24,425 --> 00:31:26,724
- I'm here as his father to...
659
00:31:26,725 --> 00:31:30,477
you know, to raise him
and give him advice.
660
00:31:30,478 --> 00:31:34,132
- I have to keep in mind
that...
661
00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:36,734
what people were fed
662
00:31:36,735 --> 00:31:41,339
in this propaganda against me
over the years,
663
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:43,600
about, oh, Puffy did this
and adopted your kid
664
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,235
and adopted this--
665
00:31:45,395 --> 00:31:48,346
there's no adoption, none.
666
00:31:48,507 --> 00:31:51,424
There's no letter to my father
and all that.
667
00:31:51,425 --> 00:31:54,326
All crafted by a publicist.
668
00:31:54,327 --> 00:31:59,006
And if you haven't noticed,
his name is still Brown.
669
00:31:59,007 --> 00:32:01,585
People thought I was absent
and things of that nature.
670
00:32:01,745 --> 00:32:04,537
It was basically instructed
by Kimberly.
671
00:32:04,698 --> 00:32:07,540
♪ ♪
672
00:32:07,701 --> 00:32:11,503
I was told that Puffy
wasn't too happy about anyone
673
00:32:11,663 --> 00:32:13,645
who had a relationship
with Kimberly.
674
00:32:13,646 --> 00:32:15,873
♪ ♪
675
00:32:16,035 --> 00:32:19,810
I was very much under--listen,
you promise on our son's life,
676
00:32:19,811 --> 00:32:21,638
you know, just stay
out of the way.
677
00:32:21,798 --> 00:32:24,415
Don't do this.
Don't get involved.
678
00:32:24,416 --> 00:32:26,443
Being told, please,
679
00:32:26,603 --> 00:32:28,419
don't do that tough-guy
Mount Vernon shit.
680
00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:30,162
You will get killed.
681
00:32:30,163 --> 00:32:32,282
♪ ♪
682
00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:38,613
- Kimberly said,
don't do this.
683
00:32:38,773 --> 00:32:41,190
Don't get involved.
You will get killed.
684
00:32:41,351 --> 00:32:45,669
Even to the point
where I remember...
685
00:32:45,670 --> 00:32:48,048
Oof, I can't.
686
00:32:48,208 --> 00:32:51,174
[dramatic music]
687
00:32:51,175 --> 00:32:54,304
♪ ♪
688
00:32:54,464 --> 00:32:56,680
[grunts softly]
689
00:32:56,681 --> 00:32:59,634
Yeah, man,
I can't go into that.
690
00:32:59,794 --> 00:33:01,711
There's legal proceedings
going on right now,
691
00:33:01,872 --> 00:33:03,563
so this will be...
692
00:33:03,724 --> 00:33:06,540
But, yeah, I will share that
at some point,
693
00:33:06,541 --> 00:33:11,194
but, yeah, this--
it's part of evidence.
694
00:33:11,195 --> 00:33:13,297
And...
695
00:33:13,298 --> 00:33:16,576
I'm going to have to refrain
from this part of this--
696
00:33:16,737 --> 00:33:18,302
this segment.
697
00:33:18,303 --> 00:33:20,805
♪ ♪
698
00:33:20,806 --> 00:33:24,626
Let's just say,
you got to listen to Kimberly
699
00:33:26,696 --> 00:33:30,674
Because not only
was she trying to save me...
700
00:33:30,834 --> 00:33:32,625
she was putting
her own life in danger.
701
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,893
[indistinct chatter]
- Sean!
702
00:33:34,894 --> 00:33:37,347
- Sean, right here, please.
Sean, right here.
703
00:33:41,270 --> 00:33:43,503
- One time
I was called on the phone
704
00:33:43,664 --> 00:33:46,347
to rush over
to St. Luke's Hospital.
705
00:33:46,508 --> 00:33:48,758
She looked like she was
bruised and stuff like that.
706
00:33:48,919 --> 00:33:51,186
But she wasn't saying
much of nothing.
707
00:33:51,346 --> 00:33:53,763
♪ ♪
708
00:33:53,924 --> 00:33:57,666
- I have a victim
who I now represent.
709
00:33:57,667 --> 00:33:59,619
She alleges that she also saw
710
00:33:59,780 --> 00:34:01,494
acts of violence
711
00:34:01,495 --> 00:34:02,622
with regard to Kim Porter.
712
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:06,668
She was horrified.
713
00:34:08,939 --> 00:34:10,446
It was appalling.
714
00:34:10,607 --> 00:34:14,358
She was threatened
into not reporting it.
715
00:34:14,359 --> 00:34:16,861
[paparazzi shouting]
716
00:34:16,862 --> 00:34:18,620
- Every time I went somewhere
with them,
717
00:34:18,621 --> 00:34:20,990
it'd be, like,
a presidential suite.
718
00:34:20,991 --> 00:34:22,801
But see, if I'm outside
719
00:34:22,895 --> 00:34:25,720
because I got to watch the door
at a certain time,
720
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,972
Kim might come out the room.
721
00:34:28,133 --> 00:34:31,151
And, like, she'll be in her
robe or something like that.
722
00:34:31,311 --> 00:34:33,052
And you could tell that she--
723
00:34:33,213 --> 00:34:35,805
he may have been roughing--
I'd be like, yo, you all right?
724
00:34:35,966 --> 00:34:38,408
He play too much.
725
00:34:44,466 --> 00:34:47,525
- There were whispers maybe
726
00:34:47,686 --> 00:34:51,395
of things that were happening
behind the scenes.
727
00:34:51,396 --> 00:34:53,522
[paparazzi shouting]
728
00:34:53,523 --> 00:34:54,966
- Thanks a lot.
729
00:34:55,127 --> 00:34:58,336
- There was
a little blip of coverage
730
00:34:58,496 --> 00:35:00,245
but nothing beyond that.
731
00:35:00,246 --> 00:35:01,890
- Make some noise.
732
00:35:02,050 --> 00:35:04,309
- By that time, Sean--
733
00:35:04,469 --> 00:35:06,485
probably one
of the hardest-working
734
00:35:06,486 --> 00:35:07,811
up-and-coming executives.
735
00:35:07,812 --> 00:35:09,813
- And I work, like,
20 hours a day.
736
00:35:09,814 --> 00:35:12,692
And I feel
as a young Black man,
737
00:35:12,853 --> 00:35:15,595
anything I put my mind to,
I can do.
738
00:35:15,756 --> 00:35:18,997
- He worked his way from intern
to the director of A&R
739
00:35:18,998 --> 00:35:22,801
in the space of about a year
or a year and a half.
740
00:35:22,802 --> 00:35:26,039
- That was the person
at the label
741
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:29,433
who was responsible
for signing new artists
742
00:35:29,434 --> 00:35:31,084
to the record label.
743
00:35:31,085 --> 00:35:34,713
- I never knew I would be here,
but, you know, I'm grateful,
744
00:35:34,714 --> 00:35:36,723
and, you know,
I'm definitely honored.
745
00:35:36,724 --> 00:35:38,593
- You had the keys
to the kingdom.
746
00:35:38,753 --> 00:35:42,222
Like, you were able to say
what was hot.
747
00:35:42,382 --> 00:35:43,623
You were able to say,
748
00:35:43,784 --> 00:35:44,975
that's going to be
the next big artist.
749
00:35:45,135 --> 00:35:48,452
And you had that power
really to put somebody on.
750
00:35:48,453 --> 00:35:50,129
And after that,
751
00:35:50,290 --> 00:35:53,958
he launches his own
record label, Bad Boy.
752
00:35:53,959 --> 00:35:55,810
- This is it,
Bad Boy Entertainment.
753
00:35:55,970 --> 00:35:58,036
- Bad Boy Entertainment,
no doubt.
754
00:35:58,037 --> 00:36:00,064
- Totally, totally familiar, totally.
755
00:36:00,225 --> 00:36:02,841
This is a brand-new start
at a brand-new label,
756
00:36:02,842 --> 00:36:04,569
brand-new money.
757
00:36:04,729 --> 00:36:07,998
So, at Uptown, Sean left,
758
00:36:08,158 --> 00:36:11,751
and the founder of Uptown
gave me Sean's workload,
759
00:36:11,912 --> 00:36:14,127
along with the workload
I already had.
760
00:36:14,128 --> 00:36:17,507
At night, I'm inheriting
his workload.
761
00:36:17,667 --> 00:36:20,133
And he's inheriting
a new label.
762
00:36:20,134 --> 00:36:21,469
It's crazy.
763
00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:24,389
- Diddy looked at hip-hop
in a very different way.
764
00:36:24,549 --> 00:36:26,841
People felt
that it had to be gritty
765
00:36:27,001 --> 00:36:29,493
and very tied to the streets.
766
00:36:29,494 --> 00:36:31,271
But in Diddy's mind...
767
00:36:31,431 --> 00:36:34,323
[cheering, paparazzi shouting]
768
00:36:34,324 --> 00:36:37,676
Why can't hip-hop be you
driving around in a Bentley?
769
00:36:37,677 --> 00:36:40,829
Why can't hip-hop be
having Rolexes,
770
00:36:40,830 --> 00:36:43,533
having mansions, and living
that kind of high life?
771
00:36:43,693 --> 00:36:45,976
[paparazzi shouting]
772
00:36:45,977 --> 00:36:49,096
- It's this shiny-suit era,
this glossy era.
773
00:36:49,097 --> 00:36:52,090
It's all about spending
and making money.
774
00:36:52,091 --> 00:36:53,793
He had just come out
775
00:36:53,954 --> 00:36:57,130
with the Notorious B.I.G.,
Craig Mack.
776
00:36:57,290 --> 00:37:02,067
He had a heavy-hitter roster
in hip-hop.
777
00:37:02,068 --> 00:37:05,178
- That's the beginning
of Sean's ending,
778
00:37:05,179 --> 00:37:09,107
because he was given way more
than your average rapper,
779
00:37:09,108 --> 00:37:12,936
an average inner-city
Black industry person.
780
00:37:12,937 --> 00:37:15,563
- I'm from Harlem, young man
from Harlem, New York.
781
00:37:15,564 --> 00:37:17,567
This is crazy right here.
782
00:37:17,727 --> 00:37:20,144
I'm reaching big.
I'm going for the big-time.
783
00:37:20,305 --> 00:37:22,546
I'm trying to have my name
in lights one day, baby.
784
00:37:22,547 --> 00:37:23,947
- Here's Sean and I.
785
00:37:23,948 --> 00:37:27,601
That's when he was
a brand-new millionaire.
786
00:37:27,763 --> 00:37:30,804
Around that time, he showed me
a check for $60 million,
787
00:37:30,805 --> 00:37:32,332
and I couldn't believe it.
788
00:37:32,492 --> 00:37:34,734
- Puffy was able to negotiate
789
00:37:34,895 --> 00:37:37,662
a $55 million advance,
790
00:37:37,822 --> 00:37:40,507
reportedly, from Clive Davis.
791
00:37:41,843 --> 00:37:44,818
- It was a check,
and it was crumbled up.
792
00:37:44,819 --> 00:37:46,921
And he has that Kool-Aid look
on his mouth.
793
00:37:47,081 --> 00:37:48,955
He licked his lips and said,
794
00:37:48,956 --> 00:37:51,158
yeah, I'm about to turn
this shit on--watch.
795
00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:53,285
He was rubbing elbows
with Tommy Hilfiger.
796
00:37:53,286 --> 00:37:55,788
He was on the top 10
of the record charts.
797
00:37:55,789 --> 00:37:57,515
He's known worldwide.
798
00:37:57,675 --> 00:37:59,908
He's probably one
799
00:37:59,909 --> 00:38:02,836
of the most photographed
Black men in history.
800
00:38:02,837 --> 00:38:05,089
And he's not even
25 years old yet.
801
00:38:05,090 --> 00:38:06,691
And this wasn't, like,
802
00:38:06,851 --> 00:38:08,741
his first and last
million-dollar check.
803
00:38:08,742 --> 00:38:10,219
This was the first of many.
804
00:38:10,220 --> 00:38:14,615
But now Sean is the 1%
of the 1% of the 1%
805
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:16,626
of the 1% in the Black world.
806
00:38:16,786 --> 00:38:19,028
I ain't never met
nobody this rich,
807
00:38:19,189 --> 00:38:21,179
and this is Sean.
808
00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:24,634
What does that do to a person?
I can only imagine.
809
00:38:26,546 --> 00:38:29,889
[line trilling]
810
00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:31,308
[line beeps]
811
00:38:47,642 --> 00:38:49,826
♪ ♪
812
00:39:09,731 --> 00:39:13,097
- It's been taking me
fucking ever
813
00:39:13,098 --> 00:39:17,771
to get back to my exact tone
of not giving a fuck.
814
00:39:24,613 --> 00:39:26,613
- You got me acting crazy.
815
00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:31,067
- I can show y'all
how we have fun
816
00:39:31,161 --> 00:39:33,661
and stay out of jail, too,
and make money.
817
00:39:40,878 --> 00:39:42,903
- ♪ It just don't stop ♪
818
00:39:43,064 --> 00:39:45,380
♪ Sunup to sundown,
my people get it ♪
819
00:39:45,381 --> 00:39:47,083
♪ Distressed jeans,
Timb boots ♪
820
00:39:47,243 --> 00:39:49,135
♪ And a Yankee fitted,
the way the chain hang... ♪
821
00:40:16,089 --> 00:40:18,838
- The one, the only,
Mr. Can't Stop, Won't Stop,
822
00:40:18,839 --> 00:40:20,834
Mr. Combs!
823
00:40:36,359 --> 00:40:39,284
- I was going to do
whatever it took
824
00:40:39,285 --> 00:40:42,362
to be successful
in the industry.
825
00:40:42,363 --> 00:40:44,640
- To Puff,
image was his livelihood.
826
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,809
[indistinct chatter]
827
00:40:46,903 --> 00:40:48,460
- Excuse me,
excuse me, excuse me.
828
00:40:48,461 --> 00:40:52,073
- He felt like that, in order
for him to have this image,
829
00:40:52,233 --> 00:40:54,949
you have to be
larger than life.
830
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:59,379
And he thought that if people
fear him, they respect him.
831
00:40:59,380 --> 00:41:00,939
- Nobody's shooting me.
Nobody's shooting me.
832
00:41:00,940 --> 00:41:02,933
Nobody's shooting me.
833
00:41:02,934 --> 00:41:04,911
There's three shooters to make
sure somebody is shooting me.
834
00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:06,838
You got me acting crazy
in front of all these people.
835
00:41:06,998 --> 00:41:08,214
JJ, you got me acting crazy.
836
00:41:13,405 --> 00:41:15,395
- Disney paying a lot
for this motherfucking art
837
00:41:15,396 --> 00:41:17,223
I'm going to give them--
fuck that.
838
00:41:22,505 --> 00:41:25,914
- Right now.
Nah...
839
00:41:25,915 --> 00:41:30,686
- I worked with Diddy
on MTV's 'Making the Band 2."
840
00:41:30,846 --> 00:41:33,839
When he got angry
with one of my band members,
841
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,442
he said, you make me so mad,
I want to eat your flesh.
842
00:41:36,602 --> 00:41:38,444
And then he said to another one
of my band members--
843
00:41:38,604 --> 00:41:40,771
he said, you rolling
your eyes and everyt--
844
00:41:40,932 --> 00:41:43,173
you know, I could go get
a crackhead and pay them $20
845
00:41:43,174 --> 00:41:44,876
to smack the shit out of you.
846
00:41:45,036 --> 00:41:47,328
Who says that?
That's crazy.
847
00:41:47,488 --> 00:41:49,929
[dramatic music]
848
00:41:49,930 --> 00:41:51,931
- We're in the studio.
849
00:41:51,932 --> 00:41:53,885
You know, he had said
some stuff about the band.
850
00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:58,513
And Puff said, they going
to keep fucking around with me,
851
00:41:58,514 --> 00:42:00,365
and I'm going to drug
they ass out
852
00:42:00,366 --> 00:42:02,143
and pimp them out to my niggas.
853
00:42:04,271 --> 00:42:06,963
And I said, nigga, them
is somebody's daughters.
854
00:42:06,964 --> 00:42:08,799
What the fuck is
you talking about?
855
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,802
♪ ♪
856
00:42:11,963 --> 00:42:14,030
I seen him cuss at his mother
at one time.
857
00:42:15,942 --> 00:42:17,457
She gets in the car,
858
00:42:17,458 --> 00:42:19,661
and she was trying
to tell him something.
859
00:42:19,821 --> 00:42:21,035
He said, didn't I tell you
860
00:42:21,036 --> 00:42:23,138
to stay out
my motherfucking business?
861
00:42:23,139 --> 00:42:25,265
And I said, motherfucker,
you don't talk
862
00:42:25,266 --> 00:42:26,793
to your mother like that.
863
00:42:26,953 --> 00:42:28,501
You apologize to her.
864
00:42:28,502 --> 00:42:30,345
You ain't going to bring
nothing but bad luck--
865
00:42:30,346 --> 00:42:32,423
But, Gene, Gene,
I told her to stay--
866
00:42:32,584 --> 00:42:34,450
You wouldn't have
no motherfucking business
867
00:42:34,611 --> 00:42:36,226
if it wasn't for her.
868
00:42:36,227 --> 00:42:38,553
And that's what
our conversation was.
869
00:42:38,554 --> 00:42:41,332
Now, apologize to her.
870
00:42:41,493 --> 00:42:45,435
- Fast forward to actually
making the band,
871
00:42:45,436 --> 00:42:46,961
and he said--
872
00:42:46,962 --> 00:42:49,932
- I want me a piece
of cheesecake.
873
00:42:50,092 --> 00:42:51,442
- When you're watching it,
874
00:42:51,603 --> 00:42:53,543
you're like, yeah,
go get a slice of cheesecake.
875
00:42:53,544 --> 00:42:55,446
Like, you want this.
You got to want it that bad.
876
00:42:55,607 --> 00:42:58,507
- Puffy just told us to go
to the store in Brooklyn
877
00:42:58,508 --> 00:43:00,875
and bring him back
a cheesecake and walk.
878
00:43:00,876 --> 00:43:02,427
- Say what?
879
00:43:02,428 --> 00:43:06,932
- People looked at that like,
yo, this dude is crazy.
880
00:43:06,933 --> 00:43:09,860
- We walked for eight hours
over the Brooklyn Bridge.
881
00:43:10,021 --> 00:43:12,288
We went from Manhattan
to Brooklyn, walking.
882
00:43:12,448 --> 00:43:15,089
And so I'm doing that stuff
because I'm like,
883
00:43:15,090 --> 00:43:17,075
I ain't going to go home.
884
00:43:17,076 --> 00:43:19,220
This is what
I've been working for.
885
00:44:29,667 --> 00:44:30,866
- I was a part of a group
886
00:44:31,026 --> 00:44:32,267
before, you know,
887
00:44:32,268 --> 00:44:33,593
but this is a whole different
888
00:44:33,594 --> 00:44:35,371
level of awesomeness
right here.
889
00:44:35,531 --> 00:44:37,022
But you know what?
It feels good.
890
00:44:37,023 --> 00:44:39,950
I always--like Puff says, it
feels good to work with a team.
891
00:44:40,111 --> 00:44:41,377
I'm better with a team.
892
00:44:41,537 --> 00:44:43,528
And these people make me
better, and I just feel like--
893
00:44:43,529 --> 00:44:45,932
- Dawn Richard was selected
to be in the band Danity Kane.
894
00:44:46,092 --> 00:44:47,958
[indistinct shouting]
895
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:52,012
Later, she was in a second band
that Sean Combs produced,
896
00:44:52,173 --> 00:44:53,688
called Diddy - Dirty Money.
897
00:44:53,689 --> 00:44:56,440
- It feels good and to be here
and have y'all see
898
00:44:56,441 --> 00:44:58,602
how great we really are
and what we could be.
899
00:44:58,763 --> 00:45:00,596
- What people don't know
is behind the scenes,
900
00:45:00,757 --> 00:45:03,181
she was denied food.
901
00:45:03,182 --> 00:45:05,250
She was denied water.
902
00:45:05,251 --> 00:45:07,702
She was denied sleep.
903
00:45:07,703 --> 00:45:11,999
Dawn Richard is alleging that
Sean Combs threatened her...
904
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,260
♪ ♪
905
00:45:15,261 --> 00:45:17,220
That he committed acts
of violence.
906
00:45:17,221 --> 00:45:19,356
- Get the fuck up, B, for real.
907
00:45:19,357 --> 00:45:21,417
- He would throw things
across the room--
908
00:45:21,577 --> 00:45:24,302
furniture,
studio equipment, laptops.
909
00:45:24,303 --> 00:45:26,062
He had a lot
of angry outbursts.
910
00:45:26,063 --> 00:45:28,532
- Damn.
- Cool.
911
00:45:28,533 --> 00:45:30,375
- He sexually assaulted her
912
00:45:30,537 --> 00:45:32,503
by groping and grabbing
parts of her body.
913
00:45:32,664 --> 00:45:35,229
And she witnessed
other women being groped
914
00:45:35,230 --> 00:45:37,256
and grabbed in front of her.
915
00:45:37,257 --> 00:45:39,609
If this is what the man
does in public,
916
00:45:39,610 --> 00:45:42,071
we can only imagine
what he does in private.
917
00:45:51,458 --> 00:45:53,247
- Honestly, I didn't want to
be around him
918
00:45:53,248 --> 00:45:54,333
unless there was cameras,
919
00:45:54,494 --> 00:45:56,401
because
after that one incident,
920
00:45:56,563 --> 00:45:58,254
which was very inappropriate...
921
00:46:04,696 --> 00:46:09,263
- Well, the incident--
basically, I was by myself.
922
00:46:09,264 --> 00:46:12,543
And I was...
923
00:46:12,704 --> 00:46:14,294
[scoffs]
924
00:46:14,455 --> 00:46:18,197
This is hard to talk about,
like, about this.
925
00:46:18,198 --> 00:46:24,280
♪ ♪
926
00:46:30,038 --> 00:46:32,762
[dramatic music]
927
00:46:32,763 --> 00:46:37,017
- Well, the incident--
basically, I was by myself.
928
00:46:37,018 --> 00:46:39,820
And I was...
929
00:46:39,981 --> 00:46:43,273
Well, he touched me in a place
that he shouldn't have.
930
00:46:43,274 --> 00:46:45,551
That was inappropriate.
931
00:46:45,711 --> 00:46:48,379
And I felt...
932
00:46:48,539 --> 00:46:50,030
I felt intimidated.
933
00:46:50,031 --> 00:46:52,892
I felt like, oh, my God, what
the heck happened just now?
934
00:46:54,370 --> 00:46:55,685
[sniffles]
935
00:46:55,686 --> 00:46:58,538
[crying]
I'm trying not to cry.
936
00:46:58,539 --> 00:47:00,233
I'm definitely nervous...
937
00:47:03,946 --> 00:47:07,472
Because like I said, I haven't
said anything for so long.
938
00:47:07,634 --> 00:47:09,299
And it's built up.
939
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:13,228
It's been 20 years of going
through my mind, like...
940
00:47:13,389 --> 00:47:16,231
this has happened, that's
happened, this was stopped--
941
00:47:16,392 --> 00:47:18,659
mentally, like...
942
00:47:18,819 --> 00:47:20,160
draining.
943
00:47:20,321 --> 00:47:27,260
♪ ♪
944
00:47:29,471 --> 00:47:31,171
- For a victim
of sexual assault
945
00:47:31,332 --> 00:47:33,222
by a high-profile predator,
946
00:47:33,223 --> 00:47:35,650
everything changes
when they come forward.
947
00:47:35,651 --> 00:47:37,603
They're no longer known
for their own work,
948
00:47:37,763 --> 00:47:40,606
their own accomplishments,
their own hopes and dreams.
949
00:47:40,766 --> 00:47:42,507
They're just known in the media
950
00:47:42,669 --> 00:47:44,734
as the woman
who accuses this guy.
951
00:47:44,735 --> 00:47:47,313
And particularly, I think,
in the music industry,
952
00:47:47,473 --> 00:47:49,780
there's a lot of retribution.
953
00:47:49,781 --> 00:47:52,616
Who thinks
that they can fight somebody
954
00:47:52,617 --> 00:47:54,326
with that kind
of wealth, power?
955
00:47:54,327 --> 00:47:56,671
I think each person
has to make the calculation
956
00:47:56,672 --> 00:47:59,674
in her own mind--
is it worth coming forward?
957
00:47:59,675 --> 00:48:03,379
And everybody said, heck, no,
it's not worth it.
958
00:48:03,539 --> 00:48:05,631
I'm not doing this.
959
00:48:05,791 --> 00:48:09,543
[hip-hop music]
960
00:48:09,637 --> 00:48:12,261
- I met Puffy
on Howard's campus.
961
00:48:12,262 --> 00:48:15,365
I only got back in touch
with him years after,
962
00:48:15,366 --> 00:48:17,191
when he was starting this
production team
963
00:48:17,192 --> 00:48:18,818
called The Hitmen.
964
00:48:18,819 --> 00:48:21,404
It was told to the staff that
Puff was throwing a party
965
00:48:21,405 --> 00:48:22,380
at the Hamptons.
966
00:48:22,381 --> 00:48:28,503
♪ ♪
967
00:48:28,504 --> 00:48:30,239
- So I moved
to a new neighborhood,
968
00:48:30,399 --> 00:48:31,574
and they were like, well,
what's this guy doing,
969
00:48:31,734 --> 00:48:32,882
moving here in East Hampton?
970
00:48:32,883 --> 00:48:34,959
And I said, everybody,
come on over.
971
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,786
Come on over to the house
so y'all can get to know me.
972
00:48:36,787 --> 00:48:38,313
Let me invite some
of my friends from Harlem,
973
00:48:38,474 --> 00:48:40,666
from 145th Street.
974
00:48:40,826 --> 00:48:44,177
- I had absolutely no idea
what the Hamptons was about.
975
00:48:44,178 --> 00:48:47,072
[dramatic music]
976
00:48:47,233 --> 00:48:48,749
♪ ♪
977
00:48:48,909 --> 00:48:50,301
We finally get out there.
978
00:48:50,461 --> 00:48:52,678
And I get to see Puffy's house
for the first time.
979
00:48:52,838 --> 00:48:56,406
He has a white mansion,
all-white glass from the back.
980
00:48:56,407 --> 00:48:59,560
And I'm like, wow, this is
for rich folks, you know,
981
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:01,187
rich white folks
who got money.
982
00:49:01,347 --> 00:49:04,171
So that was different.
983
00:49:04,172 --> 00:49:06,465
- Yeah, I'm just trying
to enjoy life.
984
00:49:06,466 --> 00:49:08,844
This is a celebration of life.
985
00:49:09,005 --> 00:49:11,245
This is the legendary
white party.
986
00:49:11,246 --> 00:49:12,756
This is the real white party.
987
00:49:12,757 --> 00:49:14,824
Let's just start to get
our groove on in little bit.
988
00:49:14,825 --> 00:49:17,185
In an hour, we put
the kids away--it's all good.
989
00:49:17,346 --> 00:49:19,304
All right, DJ, let's hit it.
Let's do it.
990
00:49:19,305 --> 00:49:21,582
[hip-hop music]
991
00:49:21,742 --> 00:49:23,534
- Anybody
from the music industry,
992
00:49:23,694 --> 00:49:25,211
film industry,
movie execs or music execs,
993
00:49:25,371 --> 00:49:27,887
who lived out there,
they were invited as well.
994
00:49:27,888 --> 00:49:30,589
I remember meeting
Donald Trump in the party.
995
00:49:30,590 --> 00:49:31,792
[chuckles]
It was crazy.
996
00:49:31,952 --> 00:49:34,260
♪ ♪
997
00:49:34,261 --> 00:49:36,345
- I didn't see anything
inappropriate
998
00:49:36,346 --> 00:49:38,848
when I was
at these after-after parties.
999
00:49:38,849 --> 00:49:41,060
♪ ♪
1000
00:49:43,539 --> 00:49:45,705
- Uh, I--
1001
00:49:45,706 --> 00:49:48,484
Oof. I'm not going to say
I saw a lot of it.
1002
00:49:48,644 --> 00:49:50,635
It could have been
in another part
1003
00:49:50,797 --> 00:49:53,112
of the sections or the rooms.
1004
00:49:53,113 --> 00:49:56,641
What I saw was some weed,
you know what I mean?
1005
00:49:56,803 --> 00:49:58,569
- Why wouldn't it be?
1006
00:49:58,729 --> 00:50:00,496
People smoking weed,
people popping pills.
1007
00:50:00,656 --> 00:50:02,406
That's a party.
1008
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:04,974
- I went to a lot
of Puffy parties in the '90s.
1009
00:50:04,975 --> 00:50:07,128
These were the parties
everybody wanted to go to.
1010
00:50:10,316 --> 00:50:11,615
- These were the parties
1011
00:50:11,776 --> 00:50:15,011
that you needed
exclusive access to get into.
1012
00:50:15,171 --> 00:50:19,915
But these weren't the parties
that people talk about now.
1013
00:50:20,076 --> 00:50:22,768
The after-after party
1014
00:50:22,928 --> 00:50:25,921
was something
that I had heard before,
1015
00:50:26,082 --> 00:50:30,575
that maybe there were orgies
happening.
1016
00:50:30,576 --> 00:50:33,529
[people cheering]
1017
00:50:35,616 --> 00:50:36,782
- After party is something--
1018
00:50:36,942 --> 00:50:38,908
That's common
in the music industry.
1019
00:50:38,909 --> 00:50:42,187
People have after parties...
1020
00:50:42,348 --> 00:50:43,289
but here's the thing.
1021
00:50:43,449 --> 00:50:46,292
Everybody tend to say,
1022
00:50:46,452 --> 00:50:48,342
all of a sudden,
1023
00:50:48,343 --> 00:50:51,521
because it's a white party,
it's a freak-off.
1024
00:50:51,522 --> 00:50:53,215
Like, come on, now.
1025
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:05,561
I'll be honest with you.
1026
00:51:05,721 --> 00:51:07,462
I had no idea
what a freak-off was
1027
00:51:07,623 --> 00:51:08,522
until I read the allegations.
1028
00:51:15,656 --> 00:51:17,422
- People, when they think
of sex trafficking,
1029
00:51:17,423 --> 00:51:20,008
they think of a woman being
dragged across state lines
1030
00:51:20,009 --> 00:51:23,303
for sexual purposes
against her will.
1031
00:51:23,304 --> 00:51:24,830
But in fact, the TVPA,
1032
00:51:24,990 --> 00:51:26,956
the Trafficking Victims
Protection Act,
1033
00:51:26,957 --> 00:51:30,435
talks about people being
enticed...
1034
00:51:30,436 --> 00:51:32,737
recruited...
1035
00:51:32,899 --> 00:51:34,889
or tricked...
1036
00:51:34,890 --> 00:51:38,344
into sexual behavior
or attempted sexual behavior
1037
00:51:38,504 --> 00:51:40,262
for commercial purposes.
1038
00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:44,974
It includes people
in a workplace
1039
00:51:44,975 --> 00:51:47,603
being coerced
into sexual behavior
1040
00:51:47,763 --> 00:51:50,231
in order to keep getting
their paycheck.
1041
00:52:20,638 --> 00:52:23,889
[dramatic music]
1042
00:52:50,543 --> 00:52:53,752
[lively chatter]
1043
00:52:55,539 --> 00:52:58,257
[crowd singing indistinctly]
1044
00:53:12,923 --> 00:53:15,915
[indistinct chatter]
1045
00:53:15,916 --> 00:53:20,920
♪ ♪
1046
00:53:20,921 --> 00:53:23,782
[crowd singing indistinctly]
1047
00:53:58,986 --> 00:54:02,655
- I mean, if it's true,
then, you know...
1048
00:54:08,045 --> 00:54:10,246
I'd be highly disappointed.
1049
00:54:12,299 --> 00:54:15,000
- So I've always been asked
the question, why?
1050
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,802
And...
1051
00:54:17,803 --> 00:54:21,498
I don't know the answer to why.
1052
00:54:21,592 --> 00:54:25,810
But I truly believe it all
goes back to childhood.
1053
00:54:25,811 --> 00:54:31,416
♪ ♪
1054
00:54:31,577 --> 00:54:32,917
So here's the deal.
1055
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:35,419
Because Sean had no dad,
1056
00:54:35,420 --> 00:54:38,498
all he had was his mom.
1057
00:54:38,499 --> 00:54:41,150
Sean's house, our house,
1058
00:54:41,151 --> 00:54:44,104
there was always things
going on.
1059
00:54:44,264 --> 00:54:46,831
On the weekend,
you partied in the house,
1060
00:54:46,832 --> 00:54:48,784
and we did that a lot.
1061
00:54:48,944 --> 00:54:51,611
He was around all type
of alcohol.
1062
00:54:51,772 --> 00:54:53,563
He was around reefer smoke.
1063
00:54:53,724 --> 00:54:56,792
He was around drug addicts,
around lesbians,
1064
00:54:56,952 --> 00:54:58,669
around homosexuals.
1065
00:54:58,829 --> 00:55:00,170
He was around pimps
and pushers.
1066
00:55:00,331 --> 00:55:02,122
That was just
who was in our house.
1067
00:55:02,282 --> 00:55:04,098
People that
attended the parties
1068
00:55:04,099 --> 00:55:06,100
were from Harlem
and from the streets.
1069
00:55:06,101 --> 00:55:07,977
- I wasn't
at the Janice Combs parties,
1070
00:55:07,978 --> 00:55:10,055
but some things I heard.
1071
00:55:10,215 --> 00:55:12,106
She had, like,
a little crew of chicks
1072
00:55:12,107 --> 00:55:13,783
that would come around,
and, you know,
1073
00:55:13,784 --> 00:55:16,786
she made sure...
1074
00:55:16,787 --> 00:55:20,039
everybody was comfortable.
[laughs]
1075
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,399
- At night, it wouldn't be
a thing
1076
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,571
to mistakenly walk
into one of the bedrooms,
1077
00:55:25,731 --> 00:55:27,823
and you got a couple in there
butt-naked.
1078
00:55:29,827 --> 00:55:34,079
That's what we were privy to.
This is what we were fed.
1079
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,056
Was it desensitizing us?
I'm sure it was.
1080
00:55:37,057 --> 00:55:38,834
Were we aware of it?
No.
1081
00:55:38,994 --> 00:55:42,037
That was just Saturday night.
1082
00:55:42,197 --> 00:55:46,315
- If you grow up in a very
sexualized environment,
1083
00:55:46,316 --> 00:55:48,919
that's going to shape
their sexual template,
1084
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:51,847
in terms of what
are appropriate boundaries,
1085
00:55:52,007 --> 00:55:54,633
what's acceptable.
1086
00:55:54,727 --> 00:55:57,177
[camera shutter clicking,
indistinct chatter]
1087
00:55:57,337 --> 00:56:00,779
And when you have
a lot of unresolved trauma,
1088
00:56:00,780 --> 00:56:03,657
the trauma doesn't go away
1089
00:56:03,658 --> 00:56:05,977
just because you have
all that access
1090
00:56:06,072 --> 00:56:08,921
to wealth and power
1091
00:56:08,922 --> 00:56:11,108
and no guardrails.
1092
00:56:11,202 --> 00:56:14,585
The trauma is there,
and it's still unresolved.
1093
00:56:14,586 --> 00:56:17,197
♪ ♪
1094
00:56:17,357 --> 00:56:19,724
And you just have
more resources
1095
00:56:19,725 --> 00:56:22,127
to do more damage with.
1096
00:56:22,287 --> 00:56:27,049
♪ ♪
1097
00:56:30,262 --> 00:56:33,362
- I would just like
to have some privacy
1098
00:56:33,363 --> 00:56:36,975
because I've become
incredibly reclusive.
1099
00:56:40,772 --> 00:56:43,649
[voice breaking] I've just been
in isolation for six years
1100
00:56:43,809 --> 00:56:47,861
because I'm afraid that they
might come get me for speaking.
1101
00:57:05,180 --> 00:57:07,881
- I am a civil litigator
1102
00:57:08,041 --> 00:57:10,608
who has filed several cases
1103
00:57:10,609 --> 00:57:12,109
against Sean Combs
1104
00:57:12,110 --> 00:57:13,936
for sexual assault
1105
00:57:13,937 --> 00:57:15,512
in civil court.
1106
00:57:15,513 --> 00:57:18,892
I have been sounding the alarm
about Mr. Combs
1107
00:57:19,052 --> 00:57:20,943
for years.
1108
00:57:20,944 --> 00:57:22,519
- When they think
about my album,
1109
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,224
I want them to think
about dancing or making love.
1110
00:57:26,384 --> 00:57:28,701
- My most recent client
has alleged
1111
00:57:28,702 --> 00:57:31,304
that she was brutally
gang-raped
1112
00:57:31,465 --> 00:57:35,033
by Diddy and his friends.
1113
00:57:37,163 --> 00:57:39,286
What's in front of me right now
is the complaint
1114
00:57:39,287 --> 00:57:42,080
that I filed in California
federal court
1115
00:57:42,081 --> 00:57:43,966
in the Northern District.
1116
00:57:43,967 --> 00:57:45,419
We had
several defendants listed.
1117
00:57:45,579 --> 00:57:48,121
Of course, we have Diddy,
because he's the mastermind.
1118
00:57:48,281 --> 00:57:49,623
He's the orchestrator.
1119
00:57:49,783 --> 00:57:51,633
None of this happens
without him.
1120
00:57:51,793 --> 00:57:54,085
Then we had
his right-hand woman.
1121
00:57:54,180 --> 00:57:56,138
That's Kristina Khorram.
1122
00:58:04,172 --> 00:58:06,190
- And then there was
another individual.
1123
00:58:06,350 --> 00:58:09,443
His name was Shane Pearce.
1124
00:58:09,603 --> 00:58:13,170
We've come to find him to be
like a scouter, if you will.
1125
00:58:13,171 --> 00:58:15,699
He scouts potential victims
1126
00:58:15,859 --> 00:58:18,351
to bring to Diddy.
1127
00:58:18,512 --> 00:58:21,279
This starts out
in February 2018.
1128
00:58:21,439 --> 00:58:25,433
Ashley is at a bar,
and they begin to hang out.
1129
00:58:25,434 --> 00:58:29,937
And Shane gets Diddy
on the phone.
1130
00:58:29,938 --> 00:58:31,364
This is a FaceTime call.
1131
00:58:31,525 --> 00:58:34,968
So he's showing everybody
Diddy on a FaceTime.
1132
00:58:35,128 --> 00:58:38,821
And as you can imagine,
everybody's pretty excited.
1133
00:58:38,822 --> 00:58:41,725
♪ ♪
1134
00:58:41,885 --> 00:58:44,127
- Yeah.
1135
00:58:44,288 --> 00:58:48,131
He contacted me,
and we hung out a few times.
1136
00:58:48,292 --> 00:58:51,935
- On March 23rd, my client
was invited by Shane Pearce
1137
00:58:52,095 --> 00:58:53,711
to his home.
1138
00:58:53,712 --> 00:58:55,697
So she went to the home.
1139
00:58:55,857 --> 00:58:57,265
- He went into the kitchen
1140
00:58:57,426 --> 00:59:00,117
and got me a glass of water
1141
00:59:00,118 --> 00:59:02,746
because I was thirsty.
1142
00:59:02,906 --> 00:59:07,475
I had drank a couple sips
of the water,
1143
00:59:07,476 --> 00:59:11,964
and I was feeling
kind of weird.
1144
00:59:13,883 --> 00:59:16,233
I was feeling...
1145
00:59:16,234 --> 00:59:19,311
wobbly, a little confused.
1146
00:59:19,312 --> 00:59:21,840
♪ ♪
1147
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,390
I was kind of just questioning
1148
00:59:23,391 --> 00:59:27,319
why my brain
wasn't as sharp as normal.
1149
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,030
♪ ♪
1150
00:59:30,031 --> 00:59:31,281
- Approximately
ten minutes after,
1151
00:59:31,282 --> 00:59:33,024
Diddy entered the home
1152
00:59:33,025 --> 00:59:35,928
in a grand
'ready to party' manner.
1153
00:59:36,090 --> 00:59:38,506
Along with Diddy
was his bodyguard,
1154
00:59:38,507 --> 00:59:42,510
a woman identified
as Kristina Khorram,
1155
00:59:42,511 --> 00:59:45,789
and another person
who we believe was friends
1156
00:59:45,949 --> 00:59:48,340
with Shane.
1157
00:59:48,341 --> 00:59:50,544
Shane partially undressed
Ashley,
1158
00:59:50,704 --> 00:59:55,022
and then Diddy removed
the remainder of her clothing.
1159
00:59:55,023 --> 00:59:57,024
Diddy retrieved
a bottle of liquid
1160
00:59:57,025 --> 00:59:59,127
from a large fanny pack.
1161
00:59:59,287 --> 01:00:01,204
Ashley soon realized
that the substance
1162
01:00:01,365 --> 01:00:03,265
was oil/lubricant.
1163
01:00:05,311 --> 01:00:08,211
- Sean Combs had a knife
1164
01:00:08,372 --> 01:00:11,288
and had it inside my mouth.
1165
01:00:11,289 --> 01:00:14,467
He said he was going
to cut my cheeks
1166
01:00:14,628 --> 01:00:17,029
and give me a Glasgow smile.
1167
01:00:19,383 --> 01:00:24,036
Kristina Khorram
told him that...
1168
01:00:26,456 --> 01:00:30,626
His clientele--they would
prefer it if I looked...
1169
01:00:32,570 --> 01:00:34,129
Normal.
1170
01:00:36,057 --> 01:00:38,891
At one point, Sean Combs--
1171
01:00:38,892 --> 01:00:41,419
he picked up a TV remote
1172
01:00:41,579 --> 01:00:43,821
and...
1173
01:00:43,822 --> 01:00:46,499
raped me vaginally
1174
01:00:46,660 --> 01:00:51,229
with that object, violently.
1175
01:00:58,864 --> 01:01:00,262
- Then it says,
1176
01:01:00,263 --> 01:01:02,539
Diddy is sitting not too far
from the bed,
1177
01:01:02,540 --> 01:01:05,417
and she said he has his phone
and his dick in his hand
1178
01:01:05,418 --> 01:01:08,846
and is recording
and jacking off
1179
01:01:08,847 --> 01:01:10,999
at the same time.
1180
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:12,501
This is his kink.
1181
01:01:12,661 --> 01:01:14,920
This is the thing
that gets him off.
1182
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,204
It's like trophies.
1183
01:01:16,364 --> 01:01:19,565
[paparazzi shouting]
1184
01:01:19,566 --> 01:01:22,935
- They said they could ship
me off and sell me
1185
01:01:22,936 --> 01:01:25,437
to anyone in the world
1186
01:01:25,438 --> 01:01:27,540
and that I would never
be seen again
1187
01:01:27,701 --> 01:01:30,442
by my parents
or my loved ones.
1188
01:01:30,443 --> 01:01:32,688
And they were taking me
that night.
1189
01:01:34,558 --> 01:01:39,201
I just uncontrollably
was sobbing.
1190
01:01:39,202 --> 01:01:42,028
♪ ♪
1191
01:01:42,029 --> 01:01:45,158
I was in a catatonic state
1192
01:01:45,318 --> 01:01:48,135
once they started raping me,
1193
01:01:48,136 --> 01:01:52,565
and I was just trying...
1194
01:01:52,726 --> 01:01:57,245
to get through it so
I could get out of there.
1195
01:01:57,405 --> 01:01:59,715
That's when they went
outside to smoke.
1196
01:02:01,585 --> 01:02:05,503
When I finally was able to get
the strength
1197
01:02:05,663 --> 01:02:08,230
to even sit up,
1198
01:02:08,231 --> 01:02:09,731
my clothes were missing.
1199
01:02:09,732 --> 01:02:13,511
My purse, my keys, my phone--
all gone.
1200
01:02:13,671 --> 01:02:17,239
♪ ♪
1201
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,917
At that point,
I ran to the neighbor's house.
1202
01:02:19,918 --> 01:02:22,020
♪ ♪
1203
01:02:22,180 --> 01:02:26,072
Later, the neighbor told me
he did call the cops.
1204
01:02:26,073 --> 01:02:29,953
And that's when a sheriff
showed up at the door.
1205
01:02:30,113 --> 01:02:34,431
This sheriff didn't offer me
an ambulance.
1206
01:02:34,432 --> 01:02:39,037
He didn't offer me a ride
to the police station.
1207
01:02:39,197 --> 01:02:43,840
He just basically told me
to find my own way home.
1208
01:02:43,841 --> 01:02:47,594
There's just something very off
about his demeanor.
1209
01:02:47,595 --> 01:02:50,298
- And the Contra Costa
Sheriff's Department
1210
01:02:50,458 --> 01:02:52,625
released a statement and said,
1211
01:02:52,786 --> 01:02:55,202
yeah, she did file
a police report that night.
1212
01:02:55,203 --> 01:02:57,729
We can confirm
1213
01:02:57,730 --> 01:03:00,984
that a report
was made March 23, 2018,
1214
01:03:01,144 --> 01:03:03,711
but that "we take
these matters seriously"
1215
01:03:03,712 --> 01:03:05,947
and investigated
and that it was unfounded.
1216
01:03:13,156 --> 01:03:17,250
- When I got home, I just...
1217
01:03:17,410 --> 01:03:20,185
crawled into bed.
1218
01:03:20,186 --> 01:03:23,331
I just was catatonic
for, like, about three days
1219
01:03:23,491 --> 01:03:27,585
before I could get up
and feed myself.
1220
01:03:27,745 --> 01:03:32,389
[voice breaking] I've become
incredibly reclusive.
1221
01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:36,493
I don't trust anyone...
1222
01:03:36,494 --> 01:03:40,647
other than, like, my parents.
1223
01:03:40,648 --> 01:03:43,751
So I've just been in isolation.
1224
01:03:43,752 --> 01:03:46,587
I've barely gone
out of the house.
1225
01:03:46,588 --> 01:03:49,357
I've just been living in fear
1226
01:03:49,517 --> 01:03:54,112
because it's just
a bunch of powerful people.
1227
01:03:54,272 --> 01:03:56,039
- They did this with intent.
1228
01:03:56,199 --> 01:03:59,666
I truly believe they intended
on taking her
1229
01:03:59,667 --> 01:04:02,402
and her never being seen again.
1230
01:04:02,403 --> 01:04:04,989
This is what you do
when your ultimate goal
1231
01:04:05,150 --> 01:04:06,482
is to sex-traffic them.
1232
01:04:06,483 --> 01:04:08,508
They were trying
to break her in,
1233
01:04:08,509 --> 01:04:10,303
which is a term
I'm familiar with
1234
01:04:10,463 --> 01:04:12,264
from knowing pimp culture.
1235
01:04:14,359 --> 01:04:17,534
When you want to bring in
a new hooker or a prostitute,
1236
01:04:17,535 --> 01:04:20,138
you got to break her in.
1237
01:04:20,298 --> 01:04:22,315
Typically, you break her in
1238
01:04:22,475 --> 01:04:25,117
by having her have sex
in a gang bang,
1239
01:04:25,118 --> 01:04:27,320
with multiple men at once.
1240
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,949
You've taken everything
from her.
1241
01:04:31,109 --> 01:04:32,275
They broke her.
1242
01:04:32,435 --> 01:04:34,619
♪ ♪
1243
01:04:48,718 --> 01:04:51,393
- Unchecked wealth and power
is very dangerous
1244
01:04:51,394 --> 01:04:52,894
in our culture.
1245
01:04:52,895 --> 01:04:56,389
It allows people to get away
with horrific behavior.
1246
01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:58,483
- [shouting indistinctly]
1247
01:04:58,484 --> 01:05:00,335
- All throughout his career,
1248
01:05:00,336 --> 01:05:03,556
he was known to commit
acts of violence himself...
1249
01:05:03,650 --> 01:05:05,683
- What's your plea today?
1250
01:05:05,843 --> 01:05:07,560
- To threaten people
with violence.
1251
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,354
- Can you stop now?
- Huh?
1252
01:05:09,514 --> 01:05:12,073
- He was known
to be very vindictive.
1253
01:05:16,671 --> 01:05:18,595
- Fan favorite up in here,
of course.
1254
01:05:18,596 --> 01:05:20,698
It's the one and only
Biggie Smalls.
1255
01:05:20,858 --> 01:05:23,225
I understand that your album is
going to be dropping in July,
1256
01:05:23,226 --> 01:05:25,128
because I was checking
out the Bad Boy team,
1257
01:05:25,288 --> 01:05:26,928
and Puff Daddy was letting
everybody know--
1258
01:05:26,929 --> 01:05:29,806
- There have been rumors
that Diddy
1259
01:05:29,807 --> 01:05:33,485
might have had something to do
with Biggie's death.
1260
01:05:33,486 --> 01:05:35,639
- This is a picture of me
1261
01:05:35,799 --> 01:05:38,866
the night BIG was murdered.
1262
01:05:38,867 --> 01:05:40,718
The week in which BIG
was murdered,
1263
01:05:40,878 --> 01:05:42,870
he was just acting
real anxious
1264
01:05:42,871 --> 01:05:45,047
and trying to get BIG
at this party.
1265
01:05:45,208 --> 01:05:46,474
And it was crazy,
1266
01:05:46,634 --> 01:05:49,877
whereas BIG was telling people
he had to be in London.
1267
01:05:49,878 --> 01:05:53,130
But Puff was telling people,
he ain't going to London,
1268
01:05:53,131 --> 01:05:55,075
that whole week.
1269
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,238
I'm sitting up
at the Beverly Hills Hotel,
1270
01:06:00,398 --> 01:06:02,139
and I get a phone call.
1271
01:06:02,140 --> 01:06:03,917
It's about 9:00.
1272
01:06:04,077 --> 01:06:07,761
And they say, Gene, get ready,
we going to the "Vibe" party.
1273
01:06:07,762 --> 01:06:10,748
I was like,
we're going to this party?
1274
01:06:10,908 --> 01:06:13,575
We don't even have no security.
1275
01:06:13,576 --> 01:06:16,054
I say, yo, Puff,
I got some intel, bruh.
1276
01:06:16,214 --> 01:06:17,479
He said, what?
1277
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,507
I say, yo, man, if we go
to this party tonight,
1278
01:06:19,667 --> 01:06:21,259
one of us
is going to get killed.
1279
01:06:21,419 --> 01:06:22,835
Somebody going to die,
1280
01:06:22,996 --> 01:06:26,488
because now we have
East Coast-West Coast beefs.
1281
01:06:26,489 --> 01:06:29,741
He said, yo, Gene, I don't
want to hear that shit.
1282
01:06:29,742 --> 01:06:31,743
I said, you don't want
to hear that shit?
1283
01:06:31,744 --> 01:06:33,170
So we all jump in the car.
1284
01:06:33,171 --> 01:06:36,607
♪ ♪
1285
01:06:36,702 --> 01:06:38,851
- When Tupac was killed,
1286
01:06:39,012 --> 01:06:41,578
there was a lot of rumors
1287
01:06:41,579 --> 01:06:44,124
that Biggie and Puffy
were behind it.
1288
01:06:48,446 --> 01:06:51,188
- I was in a car with Puff.
BIG was in his own car.
1289
01:06:51,189 --> 01:06:54,792
♪ ♪
1290
01:06:54,952 --> 01:06:58,221
And next thing you know,
you heard, pow, pow, pow, pow.
1291
01:06:58,381 --> 01:06:59,596
They shooting at BIG, bruh!
1292
01:06:59,597 --> 01:07:01,725
[siren wailing]
1293
01:07:01,885 --> 01:07:04,627
[indistinct chatter
over police radio]
1294
01:07:04,788 --> 01:07:06,304
We run up there because
they say they taking BIG
1295
01:07:06,464 --> 01:07:07,604
to the hospital.
1296
01:07:07,605 --> 01:07:09,731
I told them, whatever y'all do,
1297
01:07:09,732 --> 01:07:12,485
do not let him go to sleep.
1298
01:07:12,645 --> 01:07:16,288
Talk to him. Keep him up.
Don't let him go to sleep.
1299
01:07:16,289 --> 01:07:18,316
Keep him talking.
1300
01:07:18,476 --> 01:07:21,618
And Kenny said, BIG, I'm going
to get you to the hospital.
1301
01:07:21,619 --> 01:07:24,871
And BIG said, just do it.
1302
01:07:24,872 --> 01:07:28,608
That's the last thing
I heard BIG say.
1303
01:07:28,609 --> 01:07:31,755
And they said the hospital
was two blocks away,
1304
01:07:31,915 --> 01:07:34,332
and that's
the longest two blocks
1305
01:07:34,492 --> 01:07:36,233
I ever seen in my life.
1306
01:07:36,234 --> 01:07:38,560
[somber music]
1307
01:07:38,561 --> 01:07:40,812
♪ ♪
1308
01:07:40,813 --> 01:07:42,739
So Puff ran out
the hospital door,
1309
01:07:42,740 --> 01:07:44,342
and he grabbed my arm.
1310
01:07:44,502 --> 01:07:46,827
He said, Gene, we got to pray!
1311
01:07:46,828 --> 01:07:49,571
We got to pray! We got to pray!
1312
01:07:49,572 --> 01:07:51,649
And I knocked his hands
off of me.
1313
01:07:51,810 --> 01:07:53,500
I said, pray for what?
1314
01:07:53,501 --> 01:07:55,603
That nigga's dead, bruh.
1315
01:07:55,763 --> 01:07:58,606
He just was stunned.
1316
01:07:58,766 --> 01:08:00,683
Like, he had this look
in his eye,
1317
01:08:00,844 --> 01:08:03,119
like he couldn't believe it,
1318
01:08:03,279 --> 01:08:05,246
that he was dead.
1319
01:08:06,792 --> 01:08:08,500
He couldn't believe it.
1320
01:08:16,851 --> 01:08:20,095
[dramatic music]
1321
01:08:31,857 --> 01:08:34,607
- Feelings can't change facts,
1322
01:08:34,608 --> 01:08:36,611
but facts can change feelings.
1323
01:08:38,539 --> 01:08:42,165
I think that he placed BIG
in the atmosphere.
1324
01:08:42,166 --> 01:08:46,246
So did he directly have
something to do with it?
1325
01:08:46,406 --> 01:08:48,397
[dramatic music]
1326
01:08:48,558 --> 01:08:49,749
He could have.
1327
01:08:56,741 --> 01:08:58,508
[cheers and applause]
1328
01:08:58,668 --> 01:09:00,835
For many a-years,
1329
01:09:00,995 --> 01:09:05,113
I couldn't fight back
the tears...
1330
01:09:05,114 --> 01:09:07,892
knowing that young man
was murdered.
1331
01:09:12,073 --> 01:09:14,849
- I stopped working with him
early part of 2005,
1332
01:09:15,009 --> 01:09:17,417
because me and his mama got
into it.
1333
01:09:17,418 --> 01:09:18,794
- Janice,
right over here, please.
1334
01:09:18,795 --> 01:09:21,355
- Hey, Janice.
- Janice, right here.
1335
01:09:21,515 --> 01:09:24,474
- Puff mother
tried to degrade me.
1336
01:09:24,475 --> 01:09:28,437
She would ask me to do things
for her, like go to her car,
1337
01:09:28,598 --> 01:09:30,413
get this, get that.
1338
01:09:30,414 --> 01:09:33,091
And I wouldn't do that.
1339
01:09:33,092 --> 01:09:35,119
What the hell you
asking me to stop
1340
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:38,339
from watching your son's safety
to go do something for you?
1341
01:09:40,210 --> 01:09:42,552
So one day, I was sitting
by Puff's office.
1342
01:09:42,712 --> 01:09:45,428
And she said, Gene, I need
for you to go to my car
1343
01:09:45,429 --> 01:09:46,530
and get this food out.
1344
01:09:46,531 --> 01:09:48,057
I said, I'm not here for that.
1345
01:09:48,218 --> 01:09:51,109
And then she start rambling,
start, like,
1346
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:55,363
yo, everybody does
what I ask them to do...
1347
01:09:55,364 --> 01:09:56,891
except you.
1348
01:09:57,051 --> 01:09:58,818
What makes you so special?
1349
01:09:58,978 --> 01:10:00,570
And then Puff just came
out his office.
1350
01:10:00,730 --> 01:10:02,620
Why are you always messing
with Gene?
1351
01:10:02,621 --> 01:10:05,399
Leave Gene alone.
1352
01:10:05,559 --> 01:10:08,077
She just was looking.
1353
01:10:08,238 --> 01:10:11,906
And then she said, yo, yo,
I'm tired of this, man.
1354
01:10:12,066 --> 01:10:14,659
And I said,
yo, I'm tired of it, too.
1355
01:10:14,819 --> 01:10:16,661
And I walked out
and never came back.
1356
01:10:16,821 --> 01:10:22,091
♪ ♪
1357
01:10:22,252 --> 01:10:24,219
- I wanted to show
you something.
1358
01:10:25,730 --> 01:10:27,680
This is a restroom-plus.
1359
01:10:30,026 --> 01:10:33,827
Can you tell me
what the plus is?
1360
01:10:33,828 --> 01:10:35,712
- No.
- The plus.
1361
01:10:35,713 --> 01:10:41,609
♪ ♪
1362
01:10:41,610 --> 01:10:42,687
Ah.
1363
01:10:42,847 --> 01:10:46,449
♪ ♪
1364
01:10:46,609 --> 01:10:48,050
That's the plus.
1365
01:10:48,051 --> 01:10:49,718
In the back of my house,
1366
01:10:49,719 --> 01:10:51,696
that's where I keep
my trophies.
1367
01:10:51,856 --> 01:10:54,198
That's where I keep
my platinum and gold plaques.
1368
01:10:54,358 --> 01:10:57,026
I'd probably say
minimum 10, maximum 15.
1369
01:10:57,187 --> 01:10:59,627
This was my first-ever
platinum plaque--
1370
01:10:59,628 --> 01:11:02,731
Notorious B.I.G.
1371
01:11:02,732 --> 01:11:05,183
I co-executive produced
on that album.
1372
01:11:05,184 --> 01:11:08,436
I got that when I was
23 years old, I think.
1373
01:11:08,437 --> 01:11:09,264
Yeah.
1374
01:11:14,637 --> 01:11:16,896
♪ ♪
1375
01:11:17,056 --> 01:11:20,049
- After seeing
a few friends die,
1376
01:11:20,210 --> 01:11:22,735
you wake up one day,
and one got shot in the head.
1377
01:11:24,388 --> 01:11:29,207
Then you go, and then you
have another raw talent,
1378
01:11:29,208 --> 01:11:31,986
this fat kid
from Brooklyn, you know,
1379
01:11:32,146 --> 01:11:35,639
and he gets shot dead...
1380
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,966
not even 25 years old.
1381
01:11:37,967 --> 01:11:41,070
And in my case,
1382
01:11:41,231 --> 01:11:43,822
after having
extortion attempts on me,
1383
01:11:43,983 --> 01:11:46,000
having guns pulled out,
1384
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,977
having to deal
with so much death...
1385
01:11:48,978 --> 01:11:50,153
[dog whimpers]
1386
01:11:50,154 --> 01:11:52,805
Yeah, it wasn't cool no more.
1387
01:11:52,806 --> 01:11:54,759
You talk about fight or flight.
1388
01:11:54,919 --> 01:11:56,585
I took flight.
1389
01:11:56,746 --> 01:12:03,484
♪ ♪
1390
01:12:09,433 --> 01:12:13,326
- So there was this thing
we used to do as kids,
1391
01:12:13,327 --> 01:12:16,329
and they were called
midnight snacks, right?
1392
01:12:16,330 --> 01:12:19,208
And the midnight snacks
was usually Pop-Tarts,
1393
01:12:19,369 --> 01:12:23,037
flavored strawberry,
no frosting, extra butter,
1394
01:12:23,197 --> 01:12:25,647
coming right out the toaster,
flaming-hot,
1395
01:12:25,648 --> 01:12:28,867
with a tall glass of milk
with ice.
1396
01:12:29,028 --> 01:12:32,880
So I would send him Pop-Tarts
periodically over the years,
1397
01:12:32,974 --> 01:12:34,914
as a birthday gift,
1398
01:12:34,915 --> 01:12:37,058
to his office,
wherever it was.
1399
01:12:37,059 --> 01:12:38,709
But he would never respond.
1400
01:12:38,710 --> 01:12:41,029
♪ ♪
1401
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:43,132
When I decided to leave
the industry--
1402
01:12:43,293 --> 01:12:46,560
and this was about '99--
1403
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,739
that's when
we communicated less,
1404
01:12:49,899 --> 01:12:53,242
we saw each other less, because
I took the fork in the road.
1405
01:12:53,403 --> 01:12:56,579
And now this is
who he turned out to be.
1406
01:12:56,739 --> 01:13:00,875
♪ ♪
1407
01:13:04,305 --> 01:13:07,481
- My last encounter
with Kimberly--
1408
01:13:07,482 --> 01:13:11,059
we were at Quincy's premiere
for his Christmas special,
1409
01:13:11,060 --> 01:13:13,162
"Holiday Calendar."
1410
01:13:13,323 --> 01:13:15,313
Sean came.
1411
01:13:15,314 --> 01:13:18,292
♪ ♪
1412
01:13:18,453 --> 01:13:21,027
She said to me,
this is probably the best day
1413
01:13:21,028 --> 01:13:23,106
in a very long time,
1414
01:13:23,266 --> 01:13:26,851
seeing all of us
in the same place.
1415
01:13:27,011 --> 01:13:28,277
She was looking amazing.
1416
01:13:28,438 --> 01:13:30,279
She was healthy.
She was fantastic.
1417
01:13:30,440 --> 01:13:32,990
It was two or three weeks
prior to, um...
1418
01:13:34,910 --> 01:13:36,685
Her...
1419
01:13:36,846 --> 01:13:38,788
murder.
1420
01:13:38,948 --> 01:13:41,040
Am I supposed to say
"allegedly"?
1421
01:13:43,168 --> 01:13:47,004
November 15th,
a day I'll never forget...
1422
01:13:48,266 --> 01:13:51,173
I was on my way to film
1423
01:13:51,174 --> 01:13:54,427
the opening packages
for the BET Awards.
1424
01:13:54,428 --> 01:13:57,930
Phone rings,
and it's a dear friend of mine.
1425
01:13:57,931 --> 01:13:59,783
And...
1426
01:13:59,784 --> 01:14:02,895
she says,
did you hear about Kimberly?
1427
01:14:04,365 --> 01:14:05,964
And I said,
what about Kimberly?
1428
01:14:06,125 --> 01:14:07,865
I just saw her.
1429
01:14:07,866 --> 01:14:10,895
She says, I don't know,
1430
01:14:11,055 --> 01:14:14,697
but I've heard
that Kimberly has died.
1431
01:14:14,698 --> 01:14:17,558
[somber music]
1432
01:14:17,559 --> 01:14:21,038
♪ ♪
1433
01:14:25,086 --> 01:14:28,987
- [voice breaking]
So you're having my baby...
1434
01:14:29,148 --> 01:14:31,990
and it means so much to me.
1435
01:14:32,151 --> 01:14:34,892
There's nothing more precious
1436
01:14:34,893 --> 01:14:37,671
than to raise a family.
1437
01:14:37,831 --> 01:14:40,657
If there's any doubt
in your mind,
1438
01:14:40,658 --> 01:14:42,718
you can count on me.
1439
01:14:42,812 --> 01:14:45,104
♪ ♪
1440
01:14:45,264 --> 01:14:47,488
And that's just a day
1441
01:14:47,489 --> 01:14:51,068
that will never,
never leave my mind...
1442
01:14:53,414 --> 01:14:56,664
And just that empty feeling
of, like...
1443
01:14:56,665 --> 01:14:58,466
nah...
1444
01:14:58,467 --> 01:15:02,497
something is not
right with this.
1445
01:15:04,918 --> 01:15:07,877
- Kim Porter
had been found dead at home,
1446
01:15:08,037 --> 01:15:11,956
and an autopsy showed
that it was from complications
1447
01:15:12,116 --> 01:15:14,182
from pneumonia.
1448
01:15:14,183 --> 01:15:16,719
She was young.
She was 47 years old.
1449
01:15:16,879 --> 01:15:19,437
- Who is dying from pneumonia?
1450
01:15:19,438 --> 01:15:23,015
Seriously, pneumonia,
and to die so quickly?
1451
01:15:23,016 --> 01:15:26,044
Like, people get pneumonia
every day and don't die.
1452
01:15:26,205 --> 01:15:28,272
That doesn't seem
like a natural cause.
1453
01:15:30,776 --> 01:15:32,527
[object squeaks]
1454
01:15:34,138 --> 01:15:36,054
[device whirring]
1455
01:15:36,215 --> 01:15:37,556
- Kim dying is one
1456
01:15:37,717 --> 01:15:39,382
of those "stop you
in your tracks" moments,
1457
01:15:39,383 --> 01:15:41,536
especially if you know her.
1458
01:15:44,415 --> 01:15:48,290
And the part about it which
is so spaghetti to me is,
1459
01:15:48,291 --> 01:15:50,169
I don't think I want to know
at this point
1460
01:15:50,329 --> 01:15:53,322
because there's
so many different images
1461
01:15:53,483 --> 01:15:55,299
that have been put in my mind.
1462
01:16:00,431 --> 01:16:03,156
- This story
has become interesting
1463
01:16:03,157 --> 01:16:06,984
in several continents.
1464
01:16:06,985 --> 01:16:10,129
For the record, I've received
more than 40 inquiries
1465
01:16:10,130 --> 01:16:12,415
from production companies,
networks,
1466
01:16:12,416 --> 01:16:16,378
since brother Sean's
incarceration, to participate
1467
01:16:16,379 --> 01:16:20,173
in everyone's documentary
or something.
1468
01:16:20,174 --> 01:16:21,600
I'm gonna keep it
a buck with you.
1469
01:16:21,761 --> 01:16:23,277
I'm even surprised that
I'm sitting here right now
1470
01:16:23,437 --> 01:16:25,002
having this conversation.
1471
01:16:25,003 --> 01:16:28,457
But I do think at least
I owe it to Kimberly
1472
01:16:28,618 --> 01:16:31,335
to share just a small portion
of her truth.
1473
01:16:35,499 --> 01:16:38,340
After Sean begins
to see Kimberly,
1474
01:16:38,341 --> 01:16:40,219
Kimberly and I remain friends.
1475
01:16:40,379 --> 01:16:44,122
She started to confide in me.
1476
01:16:44,283 --> 01:16:47,301
What she did say is,
look, something's not right.
1477
01:16:47,461 --> 01:16:49,395
His soul has gone
completely dark,
1478
01:16:49,555 --> 01:16:52,815
like he's just not there.
1479
01:16:52,975 --> 01:16:54,850
Yeah.
1480
01:16:55,010 --> 01:16:56,209
Yeah, yeah.
1481
01:16:56,210 --> 01:16:58,211
She made me promise
1482
01:16:58,212 --> 01:17:01,890
on our son
Quincy Taylor Brown's life
1483
01:17:02,051 --> 01:17:03,616
not to ever reveal
1484
01:17:03,617 --> 01:17:07,204
because she was
in complete fear of my life.
1485
01:17:09,058 --> 01:17:12,550
What I do know and what
I can share at this stage
1486
01:17:12,551 --> 01:17:15,153
is that before her death,
1487
01:17:15,314 --> 01:17:18,007
she was keeping a diary
and things of that nature.
1488
01:17:18,167 --> 01:17:21,910
Someone got the pass code
to her phone and her computer.
1489
01:17:22,071 --> 01:17:24,413
And they found out
that she was writing
1490
01:17:24,574 --> 01:17:27,091
what was going on
behind closed doors.
1491
01:17:27,251 --> 01:17:28,509
The public had no idea.
1492
01:17:28,669 --> 01:17:30,643
It was happening right
in front of everybody's eyes.
1493
01:17:30,644 --> 01:17:33,064
But there's a lot of people
who turned a blind eye.
1494
01:17:39,012 --> 01:17:42,180
- There was a lot of talk,
a lot of rumors
1495
01:17:42,341 --> 01:17:43,357
that Diddy might have had
1496
01:17:43,517 --> 01:17:45,434
something to do
with Kim's death.
1497
01:17:45,595 --> 01:17:47,385
There are people
who have said,
1498
01:17:47,386 --> 01:17:49,587
well, she knew
too much about him,
1499
01:17:49,588 --> 01:17:51,664
and, she was about
to reveal all.
1500
01:17:51,665 --> 01:17:54,225
Absolutely no proof,
no evidence,
1501
01:17:54,226 --> 01:17:56,420
nothing of the sort.
1502
01:17:56,580 --> 01:17:58,921
You know, there are a lot of
conspiracy theories out there
1503
01:17:58,922 --> 01:18:00,374
but no proof.
1504
01:18:00,534 --> 01:18:04,679
And the autopsy report showed
that it was from pneumonia.
1505
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:19,191
- Let's just say there's a lot
that goes on in the industry,
1506
01:18:19,192 --> 01:18:21,369
which is not my job to uncover,
1507
01:18:21,370 --> 01:18:25,197
but it's something that's been
going on in the industry,
1508
01:18:25,198 --> 01:18:29,078
and those who speak about it
usually meet their demise.
1509
01:18:29,238 --> 01:18:33,407
- Uptown Records started
with five people--
1510
01:18:33,567 --> 01:18:37,143
Andre Harrell,
Al B. Sure!, Heavy D,
1511
01:18:37,144 --> 01:18:38,954
and Puffy.
1512
01:18:39,114 --> 01:18:42,717
And Kim was
the longest-working employee.
1513
01:18:45,404 --> 01:18:47,645
Heavy D was found dead,
heart attack.
1514
01:18:47,646 --> 01:18:49,974
Andre Harrell, heart attack.
1515
01:18:52,728 --> 01:18:54,603
- This person
was telling the story.
1516
01:18:54,764 --> 01:18:56,654
This person
was writing a book.
1517
01:18:56,655 --> 01:18:59,108
This person's
about to tell the truth.
1518
01:18:59,268 --> 01:19:03,195
Why is everybody dead?
1519
01:19:04,990 --> 01:19:07,239
Oh, it's a coincidence.
1520
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:08,993
Get the fuck out of here.
1521
01:19:09,153 --> 01:19:12,645
- The only two left
are Puffy and Al,
1522
01:19:12,646 --> 01:19:15,723
and Al almost died.
1523
01:19:15,724 --> 01:19:18,827
- And you'll really understand
how I ended up in a coma.
1524
01:19:18,987 --> 01:19:22,256
♪ ♪
1525
01:19:35,872 --> 01:19:39,289
- July 12th was
a very interesting day.
1526
01:19:39,290 --> 01:19:41,025
That was the day
that I went down.
1527
01:19:44,781 --> 01:19:47,406
It's not the first,
second, or third time...
1528
01:19:49,451 --> 01:19:51,476
That I've been
in that position,
1529
01:19:51,637 --> 01:19:53,127
where I actually went down.
1530
01:19:53,128 --> 01:19:55,080
I can't say too much
at this moment.
1531
01:19:55,241 --> 01:19:57,333
[dramatic music]
1532
01:19:57,493 --> 01:19:59,409
I can say this.
1533
01:19:59,570 --> 01:20:02,463
July 12th I was entered into
one of the hospitals here.
1534
01:20:07,594 --> 01:20:09,076
I was basically done.
1535
01:20:09,077 --> 01:20:11,004
They were sending me
to hospice.
1536
01:20:11,164 --> 01:20:13,573
There was nothing else
they can do.
1537
01:20:13,574 --> 01:20:15,399
So they're going
to send him to die.
1538
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,253
And what transpired
in between--whoa.
1539
01:20:18,414 --> 01:20:20,430
♪ ♪
1540
01:20:20,591 --> 01:20:24,059
From what I found out later,
I was in a coma,
1541
01:20:24,153 --> 01:20:26,445
having multisystem
organ failure.
1542
01:20:34,430 --> 01:20:37,373
Every organ is working off
a machine except for the liver.
1543
01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:39,700
Even in the middle of me
going through
1544
01:20:39,860 --> 01:20:42,101
this tsunami
of a medical crisis,
1545
01:20:42,102 --> 01:20:44,088
every single person...
1546
01:20:46,634 --> 01:20:48,709
I was mindful
enough to remember.
1547
01:20:48,869 --> 01:20:53,262
I kept a record
of every single one of you
1548
01:20:53,263 --> 01:20:57,191
who were sent to set me up...
1549
01:20:57,192 --> 01:21:01,270
to assist in the attempted
murder of Al B. Sure!
1550
01:21:01,271 --> 01:21:08,153
♪ ♪
1551
01:21:08,314 --> 01:21:09,879
You're in the file.
1552
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,708
- There are people
who speculate,
1553
01:21:13,709 --> 01:21:15,736
and there have been
so many conspiracy theories
1554
01:21:15,896 --> 01:21:18,539
about Diddy
potentially being involved.
1555
01:21:22,420 --> 01:21:24,712
- Three.
Oh, yeah.
1556
01:21:24,872 --> 01:21:26,695
- I can't say too much
at this moment
1557
01:21:26,696 --> 01:21:29,133
related to legal situations,
1558
01:21:29,293 --> 01:21:33,403
but I'll tell you this--
surviving death is not a game.
1559
01:21:33,404 --> 01:21:35,431
Being in a coma,
1560
01:21:35,591 --> 01:21:37,407
being on a ventilator
for 38 days,
1561
01:21:37,408 --> 01:21:39,541
being septic,
1562
01:21:39,542 --> 01:21:41,485
60 to 70 blood transfusions,
1563
01:21:41,486 --> 01:21:43,362
it's a lot.
1564
01:21:43,363 --> 01:21:45,024
It's a lot.
1565
01:21:45,184 --> 01:21:46,741
But you know what?
1566
01:21:46,742 --> 01:21:49,019
In hindsight, I'm glad
that things transpired
1567
01:21:49,179 --> 01:21:50,446
the way they did
1568
01:21:50,606 --> 01:21:52,907
because this journey has
prepared me for another level.
1569
01:21:56,762 --> 01:21:58,678
I've made a decision
to go hard,
1570
01:21:58,679 --> 01:22:01,180
as it relates
to opening the case
1571
01:22:01,181 --> 01:22:05,377
on the miraculous death
of Kim Porter...
1572
01:22:06,772 --> 01:22:10,290
Because Kimberly is gone
1573
01:22:10,450 --> 01:22:14,268
because she was going to be
Cassie Ventura...
1574
01:22:14,269 --> 01:22:16,345
[paparazzi shouting]
1575
01:22:16,346 --> 01:22:19,725
Which is blowing the lid
off of this entire situation.
1576
01:22:19,885 --> 01:22:22,610
- This is Cassie and Rihanna
1577
01:22:22,611 --> 01:22:26,581
in one of the music awards
in Europe.
1578
01:22:26,582 --> 01:22:30,334
I met Casandra Ventura
in 2004,
1579
01:22:30,335 --> 01:22:32,529
as a model, actually.
1580
01:22:32,690 --> 01:22:34,822
Cass was always a friend to me.
1581
01:22:34,823 --> 01:22:37,967
You know, she wasn't really
a client client.
1582
01:22:37,968 --> 01:22:42,397
- Sean Combs met Cassie
in 2005.
1583
01:22:42,558 --> 01:22:46,651
She was actually signed to
a very, very talented producer
1584
01:22:46,812 --> 01:22:49,830
who had a joint venture
with Bad Boy.
1585
01:22:49,990 --> 01:22:52,698
- ♪ So busy, but I've been
thinking about... ♪
1586
01:22:52,699 --> 01:22:55,660
- So this is
Cassie's "Me & U" video.
1587
01:22:55,821 --> 01:22:57,838
The song came out in 2006.
1588
01:22:57,998 --> 01:22:59,640
She ended up getting
to number three
1589
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,640
on the "Billboard" charts
with this song.
1590
01:23:01,641 --> 01:23:03,451
- Oh, here, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
1591
01:23:03,452 --> 01:23:06,996
- 2007 is when Kim Porter
1592
01:23:06,997 --> 01:23:11,226
broke things off
with Diddy completely.
1593
01:23:11,386 --> 01:23:12,943
People suspected
1594
01:23:12,944 --> 01:23:15,188
that maybe there's more than
a business relationship
1595
01:23:15,282 --> 01:23:17,408
going on
between Cassie and Diddy,
1596
01:23:17,568 --> 01:23:21,836
because they were spotted out
a lot at different events.
1597
01:23:21,837 --> 01:23:23,539
- She didn't tell me
for, like, six months.
1598
01:23:23,699 --> 01:23:25,414
I saw pictures
of them two together,
1599
01:23:25,415 --> 01:23:27,942
and I was like, what the fuck
is going on right now?
1600
01:23:28,104 --> 01:23:31,270
Like, why are you dating
this man?
1601
01:23:31,271 --> 01:23:33,448
- What was it like
the first time you met him?
1602
01:23:33,609 --> 01:23:36,058
Were you starstruck?
- I was so nervous, so nervous.
1603
01:23:36,059 --> 01:23:38,269
But we sat down
for about two hours,
1604
01:23:38,270 --> 01:23:40,446
talked about my career
and the future.
1605
01:23:40,447 --> 01:23:42,347
And it was great.
1606
01:23:42,348 --> 01:23:43,917
You know,
it turned out amazing,
1607
01:23:44,078 --> 01:23:47,370
and he's a great guy,
great guy.
1608
01:23:47,371 --> 01:23:49,688
- People were happy for them.
They were a cute couple.
1609
01:23:49,689 --> 01:23:51,892
But when I was at "Revolt,"
he was dating Cassie,
1610
01:23:51,986 --> 01:23:53,694
and I did get the impression
1611
01:23:53,854 --> 01:23:56,471
that he's very controlling
as a boyfriend.
1612
01:23:56,632 --> 01:24:00,725
♪ ♪
1613
01:24:00,886 --> 01:24:04,003
- In 2010, it was
the night of the Grammys.
1614
01:24:04,004 --> 01:24:08,558
And he put her up
at the Beverly Hills Hotel.
1615
01:24:08,559 --> 01:24:10,735
I fall asleep in the suite.
1616
01:24:10,896 --> 01:24:14,388
I had no idea she left
to go to a party.
1617
01:24:14,389 --> 01:24:17,417
It was midnight or something,
1:00 a.m. in the morning.
1618
01:24:17,577 --> 01:24:20,570
And all I wake up to
is this motherfucker,
1619
01:24:20,571 --> 01:24:21,970
like, bursting in the room.
1620
01:24:21,971 --> 01:24:24,850
And I'm like, what is going on?
1621
01:24:25,010 --> 01:24:27,752
And he was mad at the fact
1622
01:24:27,913 --> 01:24:30,830
that she went to a party.
1623
01:24:30,831 --> 01:24:33,833
They go into the next room,
close the door.
1624
01:24:33,834 --> 01:24:35,685
So I pack her bags
1625
01:24:35,846 --> 01:24:39,615
and get her to safety.
1626
01:24:39,775 --> 01:24:42,576
That was panic mode.
1627
01:24:42,736 --> 01:24:45,845
That's when she came out...
1628
01:24:45,846 --> 01:24:49,748
knots on her head, busted lip.
1629
01:24:49,749 --> 01:24:52,527
Like, she was just beat up.
1630
01:24:52,688 --> 01:24:55,504
So what was I to do?
1631
01:24:55,505 --> 01:24:57,407
We can't stay
in this hotel room anymore.
1632
01:24:57,568 --> 01:24:59,784
We have to go.
1633
01:24:59,945 --> 01:25:01,611
I had to take her
into my house.
1634
01:25:01,612 --> 01:25:03,512
And she stayed with me.
1635
01:25:03,513 --> 01:25:05,849
We were trying to figure out
what we're going to do.
1636
01:25:07,803 --> 01:25:10,712
I just wanted to help
my friend out that night,
1637
01:25:10,873 --> 01:25:12,773
but she wanted me
to keep it quiet.
1638
01:25:17,779 --> 01:25:20,704
We can't play with Sean Combs.
1639
01:25:20,705 --> 01:25:22,732
These are things
that we have to keep,
1640
01:25:22,893 --> 01:25:24,884
like our dirty little secrets.
1641
01:25:24,885 --> 01:25:27,061
Even when we know
it isn't right,
1642
01:25:27,223 --> 01:25:31,566
it's still something that we
can't talk about to the media.
1643
01:25:31,727 --> 01:25:32,668
- When you look
1644
01:25:32,828 --> 01:25:34,169
at the music industry,
1645
01:25:34,329 --> 01:25:35,420
it's really--
1646
01:25:35,581 --> 01:25:36,746
what we're talking about is
1647
01:25:36,907 --> 01:25:38,931
institutional grooming.
1648
01:25:38,932 --> 01:25:42,652
It normalizes it,
promotes it, accepts it,
1649
01:25:42,653 --> 01:25:45,005
turns a blind eye
1650
01:25:45,165 --> 01:25:49,685
when perpetrators do this.
1651
01:25:49,845 --> 01:25:54,613
- Cassie Ventura came out
with this bombshell lawsuit
1652
01:25:54,614 --> 01:25:57,741
in November of 2023.
1653
01:25:57,742 --> 01:26:01,471
She accused him of having
complete control over her life,
1654
01:26:01,632 --> 01:26:03,949
physically abusing her,
1655
01:26:04,109 --> 01:26:08,704
forcing her to have sex
with male sex workers,
1656
01:26:08,864 --> 01:26:11,079
plying her with drugs.
1657
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,668
- I remember reading every page
1658
01:26:14,828 --> 01:26:16,736
because I think I still was
1659
01:26:16,897 --> 01:26:19,689
in disbelief--like, really?
1660
01:26:19,690 --> 01:26:21,440
This had been going on?
1661
01:26:21,441 --> 01:26:23,117
He had been doing that?
1662
01:26:23,279 --> 01:26:27,622
- What was pretty astounding
was that around 24 hours
1663
01:26:27,783 --> 01:26:29,598
after Cassie filed
this lawsuit,
1664
01:26:29,599 --> 01:26:31,450
Sean Combs settled the lawsuit
1665
01:26:31,451 --> 01:26:34,078
for an undisclosed amount
of money.
1666
01:26:34,079 --> 01:26:36,104
- The fact that
it settled so fast
1667
01:26:36,105 --> 01:26:37,557
is something we can draw
1668
01:26:37,717 --> 01:26:38,734
conclusions from,
1669
01:26:38,894 --> 01:26:40,235
that he was terrified.
1670
01:26:40,395 --> 01:26:42,786
♪ ♪
1671
01:26:42,787 --> 01:26:44,740
- A few months later,
I remember Diddy
1672
01:26:44,900 --> 01:26:46,865
did an interview
on "The Breakfast Club."
1673
01:26:46,866 --> 01:26:48,843
- Recently, you said that
you were giving the artists
1674
01:26:48,844 --> 01:26:50,153
back their publishing.
1675
01:26:50,313 --> 01:26:53,872
- It was more
of me just evolving
1676
01:26:53,873 --> 01:26:55,575
as a businessman.
1677
01:26:55,735 --> 01:26:57,760
- It gave me pause.
1678
01:26:57,761 --> 01:27:01,706
Everyone just knew there was
this reputation that he had
1679
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,025
for being
this shrewd businessman.
1680
01:27:04,026 --> 01:27:06,386
There's numerous artists
who have fallen out with him
1681
01:27:06,546 --> 01:27:09,514
and/or have left the label
over money disputes.
1682
01:27:09,675 --> 01:27:12,992
- From my last conversation
with BIG,
1683
01:27:12,993 --> 01:27:15,894
he just wanted to be
out of Bad Boy
1684
01:27:15,895 --> 01:27:17,896
and out with Puff
1685
01:27:17,897 --> 01:27:20,400
because Puff owned
his publishing.
1686
01:27:23,781 --> 01:27:26,756
That's a whole lot of money.
1687
01:27:26,757 --> 01:27:29,759
- 112, The Lox,
1688
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,729
Total, Faith Evans,
even Mase--
1689
01:27:32,890 --> 01:27:36,757
everybody who went
to Bad Boy left...
1690
01:27:36,758 --> 01:27:38,693
left without their royalties.
1691
01:27:38,854 --> 01:27:40,045
And then he tried to come back
1692
01:27:40,205 --> 01:27:43,773
and give people back
their publishing.
1693
01:27:43,774 --> 01:27:46,025
- And a few months later,
1694
01:27:46,026 --> 01:27:48,778
we figured out
why it was strange.
1695
01:27:48,779 --> 01:27:51,614
- So, in order for you
to get your publishing,
1696
01:27:51,615 --> 01:27:54,808
you couldn't speak on anything
that has happened to you.
1697
01:27:54,809 --> 01:27:56,610
And I heard--
1698
01:27:56,611 --> 01:27:58,937
honestly, somebody told me--
one of the artists was like,
1699
01:27:58,938 --> 01:28:01,690
they only offering you,
like, $300,
1700
01:28:01,691 --> 01:28:04,543
and you got to sign the NDA.
1701
01:28:04,544 --> 01:28:06,220
- I don't think
he was oblivious
1702
01:28:06,382 --> 01:28:08,699
during his interview
on "The Breakfast Club"
1703
01:28:08,859 --> 01:28:11,368
that his whole world
was getting ready to collapse.
1704
01:28:13,130 --> 01:28:17,807
- Then CNN released
surveillance footage...
1705
01:28:17,808 --> 01:28:21,051
[dramatic music]
1706
01:28:21,052 --> 01:28:24,622
Of Diddy beating up Cassie
1707
01:28:24,717 --> 01:28:26,857
in the hotel.
1708
01:28:26,858 --> 01:28:28,717
- Couldn't unsee it.
1709
01:28:28,718 --> 01:28:30,244
You couldn't unsee it.
1710
01:28:30,406 --> 01:28:32,747
I can't give you
any explanation
1711
01:28:32,908 --> 01:28:35,274
on why that was okay.
1712
01:28:35,275 --> 01:28:37,978
- I've never seen
Puffy fight anybody.
1713
01:28:38,138 --> 01:28:40,105
I've never seen him
hit a woman.
1714
01:28:40,265 --> 01:28:43,257
So just--the video was
very disturbing when I saw it.
1715
01:28:43,419 --> 01:28:47,062
- I never seen him put his
hands on, you know, no females
1716
01:28:47,222 --> 01:28:49,114
that I was around him with.
1717
01:28:49,274 --> 01:28:52,916
- And I had to, you know,
just kind of look to see,
1718
01:28:52,917 --> 01:28:54,736
you know,
is that really Puff or not?
1719
01:28:54,896 --> 01:28:56,804
- You know, it broke
my heart, you know?
1720
01:28:56,805 --> 01:28:59,098
And then I have to wonder also,
1721
01:28:59,099 --> 01:29:01,275
like, what was going on
in his head?
1722
01:29:01,437 --> 01:29:03,844
Like, why is he really angry?
1723
01:29:03,845 --> 01:29:06,915
- And maybe he pissed her off
or she pissed him off.
1724
01:29:07,075 --> 01:29:09,593
The question is,
what caused that?
1725
01:29:13,139 --> 01:29:14,888
- No, it doesn't.
1726
01:29:14,889 --> 01:29:17,100
♪ ♪
1727
01:29:17,260 --> 01:29:18,968
- Everyone was shocked.
1728
01:29:19,129 --> 01:29:22,872
But his statement after
1729
01:29:22,873 --> 01:29:25,299
made it worse...
1730
01:29:25,461 --> 01:29:29,170
- My behavior on that video
is inexcusable.
1731
01:29:29,171 --> 01:29:31,705
I take full responsibility.
1732
01:29:31,706 --> 01:29:33,907
- Because...
1733
01:29:33,908 --> 01:29:38,061
I don't think we heard him
apologize to her.
1734
01:29:38,062 --> 01:29:40,448
- I'm not asking
for forgiveness.
1735
01:29:40,608 --> 01:29:45,069
♪ ♪
1736
01:29:45,230 --> 01:29:48,322
- By the end of 2024,
1737
01:29:48,484 --> 01:29:52,752
there's been an absolute flood
of lawsuits.
1738
01:29:52,912 --> 01:29:56,256
There have been women
who have stepped forward
1739
01:29:56,416 --> 01:29:58,908
and accused him
of sexual assault...
1740
01:29:58,909 --> 01:30:00,602
- We need to talk
about this woman
1741
01:30:00,762 --> 01:30:03,021
and what she said about
her experience with Diddy.
1742
01:30:03,181 --> 01:30:05,014
- Men who have stepped forward
and accused him
1743
01:30:05,175 --> 01:30:06,215
of sexual assault.
1744
01:30:06,376 --> 01:30:08,268
- The third person has come out
1745
01:30:08,428 --> 01:30:10,845
with a lawsuit against Diddy
in the last month.
1746
01:30:11,006 --> 01:30:13,446
- She had allegedly discovered
some of the tapes
1747
01:30:13,447 --> 01:30:15,158
that he had made
with male pop stars.
1748
01:30:15,460 --> 01:30:17,450
- Y'all ready to see hip-hop?
1749
01:30:17,451 --> 01:30:21,030
- We're over, I believe,
30 now individuals
1750
01:30:21,191 --> 01:30:22,681
who have filed lawsuits.
1751
01:30:22,682 --> 01:30:24,332
[people clamoring]
1752
01:30:24,333 --> 01:30:26,084
- I wish y'all
the best of luck.
1753
01:30:26,085 --> 01:30:28,336
[laughter]
1754
01:30:28,337 --> 01:30:32,824
- I have a client.
His name is Courtney Burgess.
1755
01:30:32,825 --> 01:30:34,252
Courtney came to me
1756
01:30:34,346 --> 01:30:36,847
because he had received
a subpoena
1757
01:30:37,007 --> 01:30:38,405
from the federal government
1758
01:30:38,406 --> 01:30:41,301
to testify in relation
to the grand jury
1759
01:30:41,461 --> 01:30:44,278
that has convened about Diddy.
1760
01:30:44,279 --> 01:30:47,406
Courtney has done interviews
where he purported
1761
01:30:47,407 --> 01:30:49,959
to own several flash drives
1762
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,987
that included sex tapes
1763
01:30:52,147 --> 01:30:53,888
with eight
distinct individuals,
1764
01:30:54,049 --> 01:30:56,715
including A-list celebrities
and Diddy,
1765
01:30:56,716 --> 01:30:58,702
all engaged in sex.
1766
01:31:00,480 --> 01:31:04,098
He believes that these people
were intoxicated
1767
01:31:04,099 --> 01:31:05,900
and that they
may not have known
1768
01:31:06,061 --> 01:31:07,401
that they were being recorded.
1769
01:31:07,563 --> 01:31:11,548
And Courtney ultimately
handed over the video.
1770
01:31:14,761 --> 01:31:17,369
It's not necessarily
a quid pro quo,
1771
01:31:17,370 --> 01:31:20,489
where, oh, I'm going
to blackmail you.
1772
01:31:20,490 --> 01:31:23,742
I feel like it was more
to advance his influence
1773
01:31:23,743 --> 01:31:25,169
and his power,
1774
01:31:25,330 --> 01:31:27,496
because now I have them
on video,
1775
01:31:27,497 --> 01:31:29,898
where I can say, I'm going
to take this to your wife.
1776
01:31:29,899 --> 01:31:32,352
I'll take this to your husband.
I'll take this to the public.
1777
01:31:32,512 --> 01:31:35,238
And I'll ruin you
if you don't do this for me.
1778
01:31:43,898 --> 01:31:47,916
- I represented 11 victims
of Jeffrey Epstein.
1779
01:31:47,917 --> 01:31:50,119
Jeffrey Epstein was one
of the most prolific predators
1780
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,845
that we've ever seen.
1781
01:31:51,846 --> 01:31:55,490
He had, I believe,
thousands of victims.
1782
01:31:55,491 --> 01:31:59,453
He had an operation where up
to three girls a day for years
1783
01:31:59,615 --> 01:32:02,057
were being brought to him
by recruiters
1784
01:32:02,217 --> 01:32:04,033
who found
attractive young women,
1785
01:32:04,034 --> 01:32:05,936
many of them underage,
1786
01:32:06,096 --> 01:32:08,838
brought them to him
for a couple hundred dollars.
1787
01:32:08,999 --> 01:32:11,307
They were sexually assaulted.
1788
01:32:11,467 --> 01:32:13,367
There are a lot of similarities
1789
01:32:13,368 --> 01:32:16,295
between the Jeffrey Epstein
case and Sean Combs.
1790
01:32:16,296 --> 01:32:19,956
They're both
very, very wealthy men.
1791
01:32:19,957 --> 01:32:22,777
And each one of them is
at the top of the pyramid.
1792
01:32:22,871 --> 01:32:26,805
And if there comes a time
where he is actually convicted,
1793
01:32:26,806 --> 01:32:28,333
we'll see whether it happens
to Combs.
1794
01:32:28,493 --> 01:32:31,193
- Back for me one time,
up top, up top.
1795
01:32:31,355 --> 01:32:33,797
- If you come
from a background,
1796
01:32:33,957 --> 01:32:36,464
say, Dad engaged
in criminal activity,
1797
01:32:36,465 --> 01:32:39,493
and was born
with a lot of life challenges,
1798
01:32:39,655 --> 01:32:41,820
and then you're
in an environment
1799
01:32:41,821 --> 01:32:46,250
around gang members,
sure, that can shape you.
1800
01:32:46,411 --> 01:32:47,752
But then on the other hand,
1801
01:32:47,913 --> 01:32:50,179
you have people who come
from very difficult backgrounds
1802
01:32:50,340 --> 01:32:53,231
who get themselves
into positive environments,
1803
01:32:53,232 --> 01:32:55,292
and they're fine.
1804
01:32:55,293 --> 01:32:58,512
Regardless of what trauma you have,
1805
01:32:58,674 --> 01:33:01,164
we still have to hold
people accountable.
1806
01:33:01,165 --> 01:33:03,493
♪ ♪
1807
01:33:03,653 --> 01:33:06,020
- The story
of Lucifer in the Bible
1808
01:33:06,181 --> 01:33:09,247
is that Lucifer was
God's most beautiful angel.
1809
01:33:09,248 --> 01:33:11,308
And he was the music angel.
1810
01:33:11,309 --> 01:33:13,143
- I'm letting
all y'all niggas know,
1811
01:33:13,144 --> 01:33:14,961
if I ain't hot,
y'all niggas ain't hot.
1812
01:33:14,962 --> 01:33:16,748
- But Lucifer got
too full of himself.
1813
01:33:16,842 --> 01:33:18,932
♪ ♪
1814
01:33:18,933 --> 01:33:22,361
And God casted him
from heaven.
1815
01:33:22,362 --> 01:33:26,264
And then he became
the evil Satan
1816
01:33:26,265 --> 01:33:29,811
that we know here
on this Earth.
1817
01:33:29,971 --> 01:33:33,064
Like, when we talk
about the serpent...
1818
01:33:33,224 --> 01:33:34,948
and when the devil comes
and says,
1819
01:33:34,949 --> 01:33:36,776
I'll give you all this
if you just denounce God,
1820
01:33:36,936 --> 01:33:39,962
they're all just embodiments
of Lucifer.
1821
01:33:39,963 --> 01:33:43,114
And I think where we are now
is we're seeing an embodiment
1822
01:33:43,115 --> 01:33:45,693
of Lucifer in Sean Combs.
1823
01:33:45,787 --> 01:33:48,371
♪ ♪
1824
01:33:53,170 --> 01:33:55,543
- Ha!
1825
01:33:55,544 --> 01:33:58,131
[chuckles]
1826
01:34:00,159 --> 01:34:02,502
- Listen...
1827
01:34:02,662 --> 01:34:05,680
I been talking
about this since '97.
1828
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,582
♪ ♪
1829
01:34:08,744 --> 01:34:12,235
So it's not something
I'm just now doing it.
1830
01:34:12,236 --> 01:34:14,288
I've been having a target
on my back.
1831
01:34:14,289 --> 01:34:17,842
It don't mean anything to me.
This life ain't mine's.
1832
01:34:18,003 --> 01:34:19,918
This life is God's.
1833
01:34:19,919 --> 01:34:23,097
And I'm going to do
as He say please.
1834
01:34:23,258 --> 01:34:29,261
♪ ♪
1835
01:34:29,262 --> 01:34:32,832
- These are my kids, right?
1836
01:34:32,992 --> 01:34:35,034
That's Timmy, Jr.
1837
01:34:35,194 --> 01:34:37,260
Timmy was my hero.
1838
01:34:37,261 --> 01:34:42,090
♪ ♪
1839
01:34:42,091 --> 01:34:44,219
Oh, man.
1840
01:34:44,379 --> 01:34:47,621
You know, this is us
burying my dad.
1841
01:34:47,783 --> 01:34:51,300
And then, you know, like,
maybe three, four years later,
1842
01:34:51,461 --> 01:34:53,269
we had to bury Timmy.
1843
01:34:55,214 --> 01:34:57,774
Yeah, Timmy, Jr.
1844
01:35:02,539 --> 01:35:04,948
He overdosed on fentanyl.
1845
01:35:07,368 --> 01:35:11,395
When you have a child
named after you...
1846
01:35:11,556 --> 01:35:13,998
[voice breaking] Looks
like you, acts like you...
1847
01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:16,251
I lost so much.
1848
01:35:16,411 --> 01:35:18,977
[somber music]
1849
01:35:18,978 --> 01:35:21,304
[normal voice]
I lost my dad.
1850
01:35:21,305 --> 01:35:24,759
And then we buried Timmy.
1851
01:35:24,919 --> 01:35:29,088
♪ ♪
1852
01:35:29,248 --> 01:35:31,340
So now we're here...
1853
01:35:31,501 --> 01:35:33,567
talking about Sean.
1854
01:35:33,568 --> 01:35:35,994
♪ ♪
1855
01:35:35,995 --> 01:35:38,997
I lost three...
1856
01:35:38,998 --> 01:35:42,150
I lost three of my...
1857
01:35:42,151 --> 01:35:44,578
♪ ♪
1858
01:35:44,579 --> 01:35:48,006
Yeah, gone.
1859
01:35:48,007 --> 01:35:50,034
Hoping for one to return.
1860
01:35:50,195 --> 01:35:53,037
[dramatic music]
1861
01:35:53,198 --> 01:35:55,413
That's my little bro.
1862
01:35:55,414 --> 01:35:58,291
Sean's done some bad things.
1863
01:35:58,292 --> 01:36:00,295
Sean knows it.
1864
01:36:00,455 --> 01:36:02,345
I'm scared for him.
1865
01:36:02,346 --> 01:36:04,758
♪ ♪
1866
01:36:13,718 --> 01:36:15,960
- I wouldn't know what to say,
to be honest with you.
1867
01:36:16,121 --> 01:36:17,395
I really wouldn't.
1868
01:36:19,974 --> 01:36:22,791
♪ ♪
1869
01:36:22,792 --> 01:36:25,693
I really wouldn't know
what to say.
1870
01:36:25,694 --> 01:36:27,946
[sighs]
1871
01:36:27,947 --> 01:36:30,224
- Diddy...
1872
01:36:30,385 --> 01:36:33,552
did anybody bring you
any cheesecake in there?
1873
01:36:33,553 --> 01:36:37,205
- If you're going to be
who you are,
1874
01:36:37,206 --> 01:36:39,233
be that person.
1875
01:36:39,394 --> 01:36:41,560
Don't turn around
and try to play
1876
01:36:41,561 --> 01:36:44,339
Mr. Good Guy and Mr. Nice Guy
1877
01:36:44,499 --> 01:36:46,565
when you a piece of shit
all along.
1878
01:36:46,566 --> 01:36:50,345
- Whether you innocent
or guilty...
1879
01:36:50,505 --> 01:36:53,205
karma has resurfaced.
1880
01:36:53,366 --> 01:36:56,641
[indistinct shouting]
1881
01:36:56,642 --> 01:37:00,480
- This is a man who's been
on top of the world.
1882
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,832
This is someone
who has lived the life
1883
01:37:03,833 --> 01:37:07,360
ever since
he's been 20 years old.
1884
01:37:07,361 --> 01:37:09,364
♪ ♪
1885
01:37:09,524 --> 01:37:11,616
And all of a sudden,
1886
01:37:11,776 --> 01:37:14,684
all of it
is taken away from him.
1887
01:37:14,685 --> 01:37:17,604
He's just stuck
in this one square box.
1888
01:37:17,605 --> 01:37:20,674
♪ ♪
1889
01:37:20,675 --> 01:37:22,676
What do you say to him?
1890
01:37:22,677 --> 01:37:25,779
♪ ♪
1891
01:37:25,941 --> 01:37:28,708
- This is probably
the most powerful person
1892
01:37:28,868 --> 01:37:31,285
in the music industry and one
1893
01:37:31,446 --> 01:37:33,353
of the most powerful people
1894
01:37:33,354 --> 01:37:35,471
in American culture, period.
1895
01:37:35,472 --> 01:37:38,718
And so this case is enormous.
1896
01:37:38,878 --> 01:37:41,119
- And this could mean
a lot of jail time
1897
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:42,897
if he is found guilty.
1898
01:37:43,057 --> 01:37:45,233
♪ ♪
1899
01:37:45,393 --> 01:37:48,126
- Deep down,
I knew this day would come.
1900
01:37:48,127 --> 01:37:50,504
Ain't that crazy?
1901
01:37:50,505 --> 01:37:53,700
That I'd be sitting
here with you.
1902
01:37:53,860 --> 01:37:55,785
You just say to yourself, wow.
1903
01:37:55,945 --> 01:37:57,486
You're going to have
to tell people
1904
01:37:57,647 --> 01:38:00,331
this was a good kid
at one time.
1905
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,193
He's monsterized now.
1906
01:38:04,354 --> 01:38:06,495
♪ ♪
1907
01:38:06,656 --> 01:38:10,133
But the monster
wasn't born a monster.
1908
01:38:11,802 --> 01:38:14,429
Come, come.
[clicks tongue] Come.
1909
01:38:14,589 --> 01:38:16,973
Monsters are created
over time.